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La30 =31 =32 =34.?? de Laci | |||||||||||||||
La34= 32=31=30. Both Walter de Laci and Ilbert de Laci came to England with William the Conqueror. TCP Lincoln suggests that they were half-brothers. | |||||||||||||||
m1 ?? | |||||||||||||||
1. | Walter de Laci d 04.1084 | ||||||||||||||
A. | Roger de Laci banished for rebelling against King William II | ||||||||||||||
B. | Hugh de Laci dsp 1121 | ||||||||||||||
m Adelix | |||||||||||||||
C. | Walter de Laci, Abbot of Gloucester | ||||||||||||||
D. | Ermeline de Laci dsp | ||||||||||||||
E. | Emme de Laci | ||||||||||||||
m ?? for a suggestion that this was Sir Hugh Talbot of Shrewsbury see here | |||||||||||||||
i. | Gilbert de Laci succeeded by ... | ||||||||||||||
a. | Hugh de Laci, lord of Meath d 25.07.1186 | ||||||||||||||
m1 Rose de Monmouth | |||||||||||||||
1 | Walter de Laci, lord of Meath, Ludlow, etc, Sheriff of Herefordshire d 1241 | ||||||||||||||
m Margaret de Braose dau of William de Braose of Brecknock, Lord of Bramber | |||||||||||||||
A | Gilbert de Laci of Ewyas Lacy dvp 1230 | ||||||||||||||
m Isabel Bigod Bi 25=24 dau of Hugh Bigod, 3rd Earl of Norfolk | |||||||||||||||
i | Margery de Laci | ||||||||||||||
m John de Verdon d 1278 | |||||||||||||||
ii | Maud de Laci |
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m1 Peter of Geneva d before 29.06.1249
b 1232/35 Dublin, Ireland
d 11 April 1304 m 1253 Meath, Ireland Geoffrey Baron Geneville b about 1226 Dublin, Ireland d 21 October 1314 |
-1-1 Geoffrey de Geneville b about 1252 Trim, Meath, Ireland died before 11 October 1283
-1-2 Piers de Geneville born 1256 Dublin, Ireland d June 1292 -1-3 Gautier de Geneville Seigneur of Vaucouleurs b about 1256 Vaucouleurs, Champagne, France d after 18 April 1303 La Bassee, Artois, France -1-4 Jehan de Geneville Seigneur of Vaucouleurs born about 1258 Vaucouleurs, Champagne, France -1-5 Simon de Geneville born about 1260 Trim, Meath, Ireland died after 24 April 1309 -1-6 Jeanne de Joinville born about 1266 Vaucouleurs, Meuse, France |
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m2 Sir Geoffrey de Geneville, Sn de Vaucouleurs, Lord of Trim b after 1225, d 21.10.1314 |
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La28= 27=23 | Petronilla de Laci b c1195, d after 25.11.1288 |
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m Ralph de Toeni of Flamsted b c1189, d c29.09.1239 |
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C | Egidia Jill de Laci |
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m Richard de Burgh 'the Great', Lord of Connaught, Viceroy of Ireland b c1201, d 1243 |
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2+ | 2 sons - Robert, Gilbert | ||||||||||||||
4 | Hugh de Laci, Constable of Ireland, Earl of Ulster b c1176, d before 26.12.1242 | ||||||||||||||
m1 c1195 Lesceline de Verdun dau of Bertram de Verdun, Seneschal of Ireland | |||||||||||||||
A | Maud de Laci | ||||||||||||||
m c1234 David FitzWilliam, Baron of Naas | |||||||||||||||
B | daughter | ||||||||||||||
m 1228, sp Alan, Lord of Galloway, Constable d 1234 | |||||||||||||||
C | daughter | ||||||||||||||
m Miles de Nangle 'McCostello' | |||||||||||||||
D+ | other issue dvpsp - Walter, Roger a 1226 | ||||||||||||||
m2 sp Emeline de Ridelesford dau of Walter de Ridelesford of Bray | |||||||||||||||
5 | Elayne de Laci | ||||||||||||||
m Richard de Beaufo | |||||||||||||||
6 | Alice de Laci | ||||||||||||||
m1 Roger Pipard | |||||||||||||||
m2 before 1232 Geoffrey de Mareys or Marsh d 1245, Justiciar of Ireland | |||||||||||||||
7 | daughter | ||||||||||||||
m William FitzAlan | |||||||||||||||
m2 Rose O'Connor presumed dau of the King of Connaught | |||||||||||||||
8 | William de Laci | ||||||||||||||
b. | Eva de Laci probably of this generation | ||||||||||||||
m Hugh de Longchamp | |||||||||||||||
c. | Heloise de Laci probably of this generation | ||||||||||||||
m William Devereux of Hereford | |||||||||||||||
F. | Agnes de Laci reported in a note to TCP Munchensy of Norfolk | ||||||||||||||
m Geoffrey Talbot | |||||||||||||||
m2 Emma | |||||||||||||||
La33= 31=30=29 | Ilbert de Laci d c1093 | ||||||||||||||
La32= 30=29=26 | Robert de Laci of Pontfract | ||||||||||||||
m Maud | |||||||||||||||
La25-1 | Ilbert de Lacy dsp 1141 | ||||||||||||||
m Alice de Gant dau of Gilbert de Gant | |||||||||||||||
La25-2 | Henry de Lacy of Pontfract | ||||||||||||||
BE1883 reports that the barony of Pontfract passed to John FitzRichard later John de Lacy - see below through John's mother Albreda Aubreye de Lisours who was daughter of Albrida Aubrey, this Henry's wife, by her second marriage to Eudo de Lisours. Not least because that would mean that there was no blood connection in the passing of the barony, which would have been unusual for that time, we follow TCP Lincoln. It appears that the source used by BE1883 may have confused Henry's wife with his sister. | |||||||||||||||
m Aubrey de Vesci | |||||||||||||||
a. | Robert de Lacy dsp 1193 | ||||||||||||||
m Isabel | |||||||||||||||
La31= 29=28=25 | Aubrey de Lacy | ||||||||||||||
m Robert de Lisours son of Fulk de Lisours | |||||||||||||||
La30= 28=27=24 | Aubrey de Lisours |
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m1 | La30=28=27 Richard FitzEustace, lord of Halton, Constable of Chester just below |
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m2 c1167 William de Clairfait Fi24 | |||||||||||||||
m3. c1169 William FitzGodric | Fi23 William FitzWilliam of Sprotborough a 02.1218
m Ela Plantagenet b c1162, a 1220, dau of Hamelin Plantagenet, 5th Earl of Surrey |
Fi22 Sir Thomas Fitzwilliam of Sprotborough and Emley a 1253
m Agnes Bertram dau of Roger Bertram, lord of Mitford Fi21 Sir Roger Fitzwilliam of Woodhall m Maud Bosvyle dau of Sir John Bosvyle of Ardsley Fi20 John Fitzwilliam of Woodhall m Ales Elenor Mydelton dau of John sb William? Mydelton, sister of Peter |
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La26 | Hugh de Laci | ||||||||||||||
La27 =28 =30.Richard FitzEustace, lord of Halton, Constable of Chester d 1163 continued from above | |||||||||||||||
m Albreda de Lisours dau of Robert de Lisours just above | |||||||||||||||
La26 =27 =29 | John FitzRichard of Halton, later de Lacy of Pontfract,
Constable of Chester d 1179/90 m (Visitation identifies John's wife as Agnetia Agnes, sister of William, Count of Albemarle. BE1883 identifies her as Alice de Vere but TCP Lincoln identifies her only as Alice. We were thinking of the implications of TCP vol X, appendix J, p. 118 which shows an Alice, known by her mother's name of de Vere, as wife of John, Constable of Chester, but realised that she was John's niece, daughter of Roger FitzRichard below. m Alice ?de Mandville b c 1110 |
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La25 =26 =28 | Roger de Lacy of Halton and Pontfract, Constable of Chester b c 1130 d 1211
m Maud de Clare dau of |
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La24= 25 =27 | John de Lacy of Halton, 1st Earl of Lincoln b c 1192, d
22.07.1240, 2nd son §C
m1 Alice dsp, dau of Gilbert de L'Aigle |
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Visitation shows Alice as mother of John's daughters but TCP reports that she dsp. | |||||||||||||||
m2 Margaret de Quincy dau of Robert de Quincy | |||||||||||||||
La23-1. | Edmund de Lacy, 2nd Earl of Lincoln b 1230, d 02.06.1257/8
m 05.1247 Alice of Saluces d before 12.07.1311/2, dau of Manfredo, Marchese di Saluzzo |
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La23-1-1 | Henry de Lacy, 3rd Earl of Lincoln, Earl of Salisbury b 06/13.01.1250, d 05.02.1311
m1 c1256 Margaret de Longespee Plantagenet b c1254, d 1306/10, dau of William, 3rd Earl of Salisbury |
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La23-1-1-1 | Alice de Lacy, Countess of Lincoln and Salisbury b 25.12.1281 dsp 02.10.1348
m1 Thomas Plantagenet, Earl of Lancaster, Earl of Lincoln dsp 22.03.1322 |
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m2 before 10.11.1324 Ebles/Eubold le Strange, 'Earl of Lincoln' dsp 08.09.1335 | |||||||||||||||
m3. before 23.03.1335/6 Hugh de Frenes, 'Earl of Lincoln' d 1336/7 | |||||||||||||||
La23-1-1-2+ | other issue - Edmund d young, John d infant | ||||||||||||||
m2 before 16.06.1310 Joan Martin d before 27.10.1322, dau of William, Lord Martin | |||||||||||||||
D | Joanna de Lacy d infant | ||||||||||||||
2 | Elenor de Lacy
m Eubolo de Strange |
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3 | Margaret de Lacy
m Sir George de Cantilupe of Bergavenny and Haryngworth b 29.03.1252, dsp 18.10.1273 |
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4+ | other issue d infant - Edmund, John | ||||||||||||||
La26= 24=23 | Maud de Lacy b c1223, d 10.03.1288 |
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m by 25.01.1238 Richard de Clare, 6th Earl of Hertford, 2nd Earl of Gloucester b 04.08.1222, d 15.07.1262 |
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La23-3 | Idonea de Lacy | ||||||||||||||
m Roger de Camville | |||||||||||||||
La24-2+ | other issue - Roger dsp, Robert | ||||||||||||||
Visitation indicates that the Robert here was of Clavering and Warkworth and was ancestor of families who took the name Clavering. BE1883 shows that Robert as son of Roger FitzRichard below but it is uncertain as to how the families are connected. | |||||||||||||||
La25-2. | Robert FitzJohn de Lacy of Flamburgh ancestor of families named Constable | ||||||||||||||
La25-3 | John de Lacy | ||||||||||||||
m Alicia Mandeville dau of Geoffrey de Mandeville, 1st Earl of Essex | |||||||||||||||
ii. | Galfrid de Lacy had issue | ||||||||||||||
La25-4. | Agnes de Lacy | ||||||||||||||
m _ de Monhalt | |||||||||||||||
La25-5+ | other issue - Albert, Richard, Margaret | ||||||||||||||
2. ? | Roger FitzRichard | ||||||||||||||
A Roger, son of Richard FitzEustace, is often shown as Roger FitzRichard of Warkworth, ancestor of the Claverings. However, it appears that that connection is erroneous. | |||||||||||||||
3. | Maria 'FitzRichard' | ||||||||||||||
m Robert de Alford | |||||||||||||||
A. | Richard de Alford | ||||||||||||||
i. | Margaret de Alford | ||||||||||||||
m John de Arderne of Aldford Castle | |||||||||||||||
4. | Albreda 'FitzRichard' | ||||||||||||||
m Henry Basset | |||||||||||||||
5.+ | other issue - Robert if not the same as Roger above, Henry prior of Norton, Richard |
Sources:
1 BE1883 Lacy, TCP Ulster, TCP Lincoln.
2 BE1883 Lacy, TCP Lincoln, Visitation Cheshire, 1580, Barons of Halton.
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