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Dr. William Hester
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|FTDNA has an "in common with" filter tool that minimizes the risk of assuming that a matching segment in one range
of a chromosome from your father with one person on your match list
is the same as the DNA as a segment in the same range matching
your mother's DNA in this range.
This tool reduces your total match list of say 1000 test persons to those who all share a minimum of roughly 24 cM of DNA with both you and the match you apply the filter on. It does not completely eliminate the possibility of superimposing matching maternal DNA on matching paternal DNA, but it does make such coincidences unlikely between matches sharing less than 100 cM.
|Before filtering your match list to see whom you share as matches with one of your matches, you may wnat to open his Gedcom pedigree,
if the pedigree button to the left of the "in common with" filter button is activated green.
When the list has been filtered for common matches you have a list of those who have ancestors in common with you and this match. But more often than not, there will be more than one ancestral coupled involved in forming this list, and not all on this list will share all of these ancestors.
|Now open open the Excel file of this list matches shared by this match of yours by dropping down to the lower right corner of your match disply and click on "Excel".
This gives you a complete extract of the group of shared matches open while using your Chromosome Browser. Log in again at FTDNA in this browser window.
|The names to compare with you your Chromosome Browser are circled in red, the e-mail addresses for contacting them in blue. The ancestral names they have posted are circled in green for a preliminary check for possible common ancestors.
||Open your Chromosome Browser in your Family Finder section as in the picture to the left!
Change the setting at the top of the CB mask from 5+ cM to 1+cM, so you can see the short matching segments too.
Then choose the match with whom you filtered your list and four of the other names from your common match list.
Reduce the the window size of your CB to show only the names and the 22 chromosomes and X chr. if possible. Then make a screenshot:
press "Alt" + "Print" which puts the graphic onto to your Clipboard.
Your graphic program will have function titles is your language, but mine is in German like this. Your GUI layout will be the same if you are using Win 7 as OS.
|Then open Start/Accessories/Paint shrink the area of the graphic program and then with this program window active on your monitor screen "Paste" or press "Ctrl" + V and save the picture as a .JPG file including your name a||Before proceeding to making the comparisons, you may want to open any Gedcom pedigrees they have posted by clicking on the green pedigree ikon:||Your graphic program will have function titles is your language, but mine is in German like this. But your GUI layout will be the same if you are using Win 7 as OS.||Then open Start/Accessories/Paint shrink the area of the graphic program and then with this program window active on your monitor screen "Paste" or press "Ctrl" + V and save the picture as a .JPG file including your name and the others in the file name and send it to To name the graphic file it is best to use your name first so we can recognize whose CB was used, so a comparison of the matches named Joan Van, Alex Way, John Yell, Bill Xantia and Hilda Zulu is named: "YouVanWayYellXantiaZulu.JPG". Or if there is an especially interesting matching segment say on chromosome 21 you might want to add the number: "You21VanWayYellXantiaZulu.JPG".|
EuroGK15 display of Ethnic Distribution of the author's DNA
EuroGK36 display of Ethnic Distribution of the author's DNA
Conspicuous in this display are the black Iberian areas. To be sure, the author does have a descent from Sancha de Ayala, but at remote G18 and hardly able to bring such a large share of DNA. Iberians were, however, among the earliest settlers of the British Isles. They were in particular the forebears of the Picts, and we find their DNA in the peculiar Orcadian DNA, a blend of Viking and Pictish DNA to be found in the descendants of Clan Gunn and other Highland clans.
Ethnic Distribution of the author's DNA
Such graphs can be obtained for free from gematch.com by registering there and uploading your autosomal and X chr test results, then checking any of the respective admixture analysis tools. The large displays are good for more exact scientific work but far too large for use with the CB comparisons on this site. The Eurogenes K15 display is used mostly on this page, but only the K36 brings out the Pictish = Iberian DNA. The small version of this display covers half of the color code legend though, so you have to paste screenshot copies from both the large and small displays into your Paint graphic processing program, then copy the full legend out of the large display, shrink it and paste it into the small one. This still leaves the problem of interpretation, as all colors are used for 2 or 3 ethnic groups, but, for example, few people have both Pictish or Spanish ancestry on the one hand and South Chinese on the other.
|The graphics of this row have been moved to CompNicholasDavid.htm, where all updates will be made.
Nicholas's paternal grandfather was the brother of author's maternal grandmother.
To the right Johnson shows Chew ancestry, but a collateral line those married into collateral lines of the author's Howard, Sprigg and Dorsey lines. He also show an Ivey line that is probably a collateral line of the author's Ivye line.
Second to the right, Jordan-Frank has Ledlow/?Ludlow ancestry that could be provisionally placed in the Ludlow pedigree.
|The graphics of this row have been moved to CompHayesKathleen.htm, where all new comparisons and updates will be found.
Hayes is the author's second cousin once removed has shares this relationship with the author's second cousin once removed by the Nicholas - Pope marriage in one quarter and seventh cousin sharing Mason ancestry in an entirely different quarter. Our common matches number 37 or more than the number shared by our mutual author's paternal Owens DNA is involved on chr 20 we get into Cary DNA there as identified by a Ca10-1-6 collateral Self branch of the New England Carys. Since the length of the segment gap rather exactly matches the one with Self, it would be an unlikely coincidence to find the same break points in the paternal DNA as well. The adjacent segments matching Larsen and Newcombe on either side of the segment inherited over this NE line each probably come from one or the other of the spouses along author's line of descent, so the segments can be narrowed down to Taylor, Wilson, Pate, Nicholas, Smith, Prather or Pope.
To the right, Brixhoff shares a long matching segment on chr 2 that is Fontaine/Wade DNA on the author's maternal side but it may be his paternal DNA matching here.
Second to the right, Freeman may be of one of the collateral lines occurring in the author's southern Hester line (i.e. the I2 haplogroup Hesters, not his direct male line Hesters of haplogroup R1b1a2...). There are also collateral Fisher and Bryans there too (tenth to right). Furthermore, there are several persons in this I2 Hester Pedigree with Wade as a first or middle name, indicating that there may be a few maternal Wade lines.
Fourth to the right, Shinavar-Jackson has a triple descent from Andree Lafontaine born about 1650 in LaRochelle France, while the author and Hayes descend from Jacque (de la) Fontaine born there about the same time. So until some other possible source of the DNA shared with Shinavar-Jackson is found, it must be presumed that all matching segments with her are from the common parents or grandparents of her Quebec immigrant and our Huguenot refugee, as there has been no other known contact of ancestors with the French Canadians. Other lines of Huguenot and Norman, Breton and French lines are, of course, known and possible, but they are more remote and hence not as likely sources.
Fifth to the right, Rhodes may be a descendant of a presumed collaterall line of the author's paternal grandfather's Mitchell family. So the two segments shared with him on chr 20 may not be on the same side of the author's family: the left one could be Mithchell and the right one Cary. His match on chr 11 has been established as Andrews DNA but the Scottish sounding name might include a Mitchell or some other Scottish connection between the two.
Ninth to the right, Self is probably below the threshold for appearing on Hayes's match list, but she is a descendant of the New England Carys, so her match on chr 20 has been tagged as Cary DNA. Presuming that Hayes's longer match here is not on the author's paternal side, it seems to be a combination of Wilson and Cary DNA. Willison is likely to be a remote variant of Wilson, although the slight overlapping of Larson and willison here with Self raises questions about the part left of the Self match being Wilson DNA, so the Cary DNA seems to be longer than this remnant shared with the NE Cary line. Considering the number of matches shared by Hayes but not by Nicholas that seem to fall into the author's paternal grandfather's maternal 1/8th sector it also seems possible that the longer match with Hayes on chr 20 is not all from the author's maternal grandmother's quarter and might involve some superimposure of maternal and paternal DNA with Mitchell and I2 Hester DNA overlapping the Cary DNA.
This display has been rearranged to blend in bars of the author's K36 ethnic distribution display, which brings out the native American DNA better than the K15 ED display and differentiates between French and Iberian, which together are apparently called Atlantic in K15, as well as other varying differentiations. There are, however, eight color codes hidden behind the chr display bars that give alternative interpretations for Arabian, Armenien etc.
|The graphics of this row have been moved to CompStapleton.htm, where any updates will be made.
Atkisson shares a group of DNA matches in common with the author: Coalson, Day, Mathews, Nelson, Russell, Stapleton and Williams, seen in this row or to the right.
Three show either one or both of the typical matching segments on chr 12 for Taylor descendants, i.e. descendants of Thomas Taylor b 1572 in Hadleigh Suffolk and his wife, Margaret Swnderby b 1578 in Copenhagen, but all five show a longer match on chr 1 that indicates nearer common ancestors.
The name Stapleton occurs in my registered pedigree along the ascending line Hester/Bland/Nicholas/Carter/Ludlow/Windsor/Stapleton. But this connection is 25 generations back, although I do get into the gentry with Nicholas at Ge3 along this line and nobility with Windsor at G13, and the latter people almost always married within their class, so there are any number of maternal lines where the common ancestor may be.
A comparison with David Nicholas,
a 2nd cousin by the author's maternal grandmother, who also shares the author's quadruple Taylor descent,
shows no match
along this range of chr 1 but it does show a short adjacent matching segment just to the right of it.
Such a sharp gene realignment break as compared with more distant cousins is less likely to take place
two siblings, but it is typical for a following generation. So it seems the match is along the author's maternal
chr 1 and specifically
along the part his mother inherited from her father, while the part farther to the right
from her mother.
To the right, Atkisson's match (who is not in the author's direct male line Hester pedigree haplogroup R1b1a.... but more likely among the southern state Hester line haplogroup I2 that the author has over the mother of his paternal grandfather), Stephen Hermes Hester shows Berry, Brooke Bryant, Butler, Cary, Clarkson, Cooper, Dabney, Eaton, Jennings, JOhnstone, Madison, Mason, Moore, Montague, Neville, Overton, Payne, Price, Randolph and Taylor. Stephen Hester seems to be of the southern Hesters, who are haplogroup I not R1b like the author, but a paternal great grandmother of the author is believed to be of that line, and he shows numerous ancestral names in common with the and is certain to be related over his Overton, Jennings, Mason and/or Clarkson etc. ancestry.
Coalson shows Noe, Allen, Wood, Davis, Cary, Smith, Childress, Jones, Cooper, Green, Hobbs and Walker. Here the common ancestry seems to be Cary and Hobbs. But she also appears in a group of matches with Workman ancestry.
The matches over the break on chr 1 seem to be from a maternal line off the author's McConnell line below the point where the other McConnells are related. Ascending this would be Workman, Shrewmaster, Nesbit, Kennedy and X b about 1715 Cumberland Co PA or Antrim Ireland m about 1730 James McConnell The unknown wife is, however, likely to be an ancestor of the other McConnells and hence not source of this DNA.
Ingalls is a descendant of
is not likely to show much McConnell DNA matching the author's McConnell descent, as he is descended from John McConnell,
master tailor in Wigtonshire Scotland, who was married to Jean Nish,
had two children in Scotland in the 1820's and then
left for Canada where he tried to make it as a tailor but eventually became
a farmer in Ontario, Canada and had many more children.
So the matches are just as likely to be found as being from any of the author's
other Scottish descents.
|The graphics of this file have been moved to CompWhittedNellieIrene.htm
Here are six screenshots of a mutually matching group except for Mumma and Reynolds.
Reif is a Norwegian whose father was of Whitted, Garland, Hester and Cape Fear Indian descent. Her mother's Norwegian ancestry also opens the possibility of relationship over any of the author's Clann Gunn lines, like Robinson via Ar10 John Armistead who is on my maternal grandmother's paternal line, or Wilson and Jamison.
There may be one pair of common ancestors for all of us
or there may be two or more ancestors on different sides that some of share
Ronnie Reynolds is a double
descendant of John
Workman, brother of James Workman Wo6 who is
paternal grandmother's maternal line.
However, Reif's screenshots show a match of four with her on chr 7 and of the fifth and two of these four on chr
|The graphics of this row have been moved to CompNellieIreneX.htm, where any updates will be made.
This row is a series of schreenshots taken from Reif's CB including her X chr matches compared with the author and our common matches.
In the row below Hatchett's ancestry and possible common ancestors are discussed. DNA from common ancestor's over the author's maternal grandmother is highly unlkely.
To the right, Nowicke has Nicholas ancestors from Cornwall, Sutton and Woodward from North Carolina, for who I have been able to "guesstimate" pedigree places. The characteristic matching segment on chr 7 seems to be from one of these families, but a match with Clarence Wade Pate indicates it is Pate, Pope or Wade DNA.
Fourth to the right, Johnson has Richard Lee included in my Lee of Virginia file, but not a direct ancestor, Larkin Chew, whom I have run across in a few places in pedigrees, Sarah Jennings, whom I have guesstimated into my Jennings pedigree , a Jane Wilson, a line of John Prices where there may be an error making one the same as the Bourne Price in my collateral Pope line, a Giles Carter, who might have some connection with my Carters, two King lines, while I have a few collateral Kings, a Bell line that may connect with my Beall line, a Wells line that may connect with the collateral Wells in my Wyatt/Stockett line, and a Richard Owens b 1804 NC
Seventh to the right, Duke has a Mims line with maternal branches to Martin, Woodson. Duke also matches with the others on chr 7, so the matching segment is likely to be Tucker DNA, which is of both my double Foote and Pope lines.
|Here are four screenshots including some the above matches and newer Matches Hatchett and Cromer.
Hatchett’s pedigree also includes a Powell line, while my Prather immigrant came on the same boat and at the expense of a William Powell but married a MacKay (Clan Gunn, by the way) associated somehow with the Powell family, perhaps a niece. Hatchett also has a Nancy Ann Tucker b 1715 d 1786 Petersburg VA, which is very close to where my Tuckers lived. The author has a double descent from both Worden Pope (a Tucker Descendant) and Behetheland Foote (also a Tucker descendant) who married in Fauquier Co Va. So it would not be surprizing to discover her Nancy Ann Tucker was related. She also has a Battle/Battell line that may go back to Battaille, a French Huguenot line the married into the Taylors and Taliaferros. And she hasDuke, Burgess, Thompson, Fowler and Watkins which all turn up here and there collaterally. Then she has a Thomasine Fox in Massachusetts, while my Nathaniel Pope immigrant married a Lucy Fox in St. Mary’s Co MD. She has a William Reed – Christian Jennings marriage around 1685 possibly in NC. This may connect with my quadruple to 10-fold Reade lines as well as my double Jennings line. And she has a Sally Allen b about 1770 in VA, which may be a collateral line off my Tuckers. Hence it seems we have several remote ancestors in common and figuring out which matching segments are from which ancestors requires some additional pedigrees that locate the exact ancestors better.
Fourth to the right, Norris is a known descendant of Robert Tucker and Elizabeth Coleman, , but matches nowhere with mit 2nd cousin David Nicholas, who shares one of my two double lines to the Tuckers. hence matches with Norris go over my maternal grandfather's Pope line.
|Nicholas is the author's maternal grandmother's grandnephew and does not match any of the others in this group except the range on chr 12 identified as Taylor DNA and the two short matches on chr 13 and 14 with Reif, from whom he also shares four lines of descent. Coincidental gene realignment is one possible explanation for this, but it seems more likely that common ancestors are generally lacking, i.e. the common ancestors are in a different quarter of the author's ancestry, specifically along either his maternal grandfather's double Jennings or Pope/Foote/Berryman/Newton/Tucker line. It also makes the Randall/Norman, Robinson, Cumming and Wilson origins less likely for the matches with Reif, while making the Jamison and McConnell origins more likely. The tangential cut between the longer matches with Hatchett and Nicholas on chr 14 indicate a realignment at the author's mother's conception, i.e. the Hatchett match is probably comprised of genes from his maternal grandfather, while the Nicholas match is compired of genes from his maternal grandmother.|
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompNorrisBauerClaytonGrahamGraybealHester.htm, where any updates will be made. This group of 16 matches in common with Norris includes some from the above group but also some others.
Fifth to the right, R.H. shares another group of 15 overlapping common matches, i.e. some of the same ancestors but also others. All of the matching segments are very short, so the common ancestry is likely to be at G10 or earlier. Day and Nelson, on the other hand, share a longer segment identified as Jamison or Huss, where the shorter part on the right shared also by Harris is sometimes shared by other septs of Clan Gunn like, for example, Wilson, Robinson or Henderson. Day and Nelson seem to be cousins in the author's maternal grandfather's maternal grandmother's maternal 1/32nd sector.
An additional comparison was made between RH and the author's paternal 4th cousin, who shares Hester, Wright and Gilbert DNA with the author as well as a match on chr 11 marked as Andrews DNA. Although the total share of DNA between the two is too small for them to show as common matches, the matching segments did coincided in too many places and lie so closely adjacent in others for the matching segments to be coincidental superimposure of maternal and paternal DNA. Hence RH seems to be a cousin in the author's paternal grandfather's paternal grandfather's 1/16th sector, so these two groups must share ancestors the author probably does not to appear in a group of common matches.
On chr 2 the segments adjacent to the Hester DNA shared by Maclachlan and Miller seem to be the DNA from a later spouse in the Hester line, i.e. Griffth, Owens, Kenton or Miller, while the Hester DNA evidenced by said Hester cousin on chr 6 has only about the length of the dot and nowhere as near as the long segment shared with Miller making it seem unlikely that this entire segment can be from this spouse.
Another peculiarity appears in this group with the segments on chr 12: while the author's maternal Taylor DNA seems to be in three distinct segments interrupted by some spouse DNA on the maternal side, the paternal DNA seems to be Gilbert beginning around the left Taylor segment continuing right to near the break where Hester DNA begins and continues over the gap separating the other two Taylor segments. This continuation is evidenced by the segment matching Ryan here, while those of Bittner, Robertson and Miller have the distinct Taylor gap between them.
The graphics of this page have been moved to CompNicholasDusenberyDusenberyBostonBelcherHester.htm, where any updates will be made. This group of 10 matches in common with the two Dusenberys and their maternal aunt, Jordan, exhibits very definite Andrews DNA
Third to the right, The longer match with the Sears Bros on chr 3 seems to be an exotic mixture of Eastern DNA as discussed below. All the matches on chr 8 with OSH seem to be in ranges where the author shows East Med DNA except the left one, which is more likely Eastern European or West Med., and the right one matching the Sears bros, which may in the transition range from East Med to Atlantic and later North Sea. This fits in with the theory that Margaret Swinderby was the daughter of a woman of Hussite descent whose family had settled in Copenhagen. The Sears also have Skinner ancestry in Sussex England which is near where the author's Wyatt line had a maternal Skinner line. Strangely there was also an Elizabeth Wyatt who married William Andrews of Ryburgh
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompMaloneCressStapletonBurkDayHester.htm, where any updates will be made. The X chr match with Cress means that for both of us the line to the common ancestry has no two consecutive male generations and goes through one of my maternal lines. Furthermore, as discussed in the top row of these CB screenshots, the matches dotted red on chr 1 seem to be over my maternal grandfather, so there seems to be a match with Cress along my Bland/Harris descent line. Cress's Taylor descent could come in on any collateral line of any pedigree in any quarter of the author's ancestry, so it makes no difference that the author's four taylor lines are all in his maternal grandmother's quarter.
A match on chromosome 1 with Shane Edward Malone that completely matches
Jerry Allen Anderson but is not as long as the one I have with
Lois Marie Cress,
who offers a few names, but only Wilson fits.
Sharon Peach says a Cress ancestor in the Terrill/Tyrell line was Jane
Melisa Terrill born about 1845 in Vermont, USA to David Terrill (b. about
1815 VT) and Emelia/Emma C. Unknown (born about 1816 VT). Jane had two
brothers – William H. Terrill and Henry Terrill (also born in VT). Jane
M Terrill married Robert S. McLean in Hancock CO, IL. They eventually moved
Second and third to the right a group of 9 common matches including Seyffert and me, but both Malone and Marlowe have matches with me on my maternal side so not all segments are paternal Hester DNA.
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompAtkisson.htm, where all updates will be made. Atkisson is believed to share common ancestry with the author along the author's Bland/Harris/Jamison/Huss line of descentTo the right John E Harris share different longer segments on chr 1 and 19 as well as the characteristic Andrews segments on chr 11.
Second to the right, John E Harris's ancestry: Edward Harris ca 1675 d 1747 Prince Edward Co VA m Unity x; Nathaniel Harris m Eleander Sullivant, Nathaniel Harris Jr. m Nancy Webb, Archer Harris m Elizabeth Harrison James Webb Harris m Lucy Frances Simpson d/o Lloyd Simpson & Rebecca Nelson, James S. Harris m Mary Johnson Frank L. Harris m Paulina White
The graphics of this row have beenmoved to CompHarrisJohn, where any updates will be made. John E Harris shares 36 matches and 68.49 cM of DNA with the author (4th greatest of 1500 matches in the database). He is also a known Mitchell descendant
The Borads are known Mithell and Tucker descendants.
Since doing the graphics for this group, test results have come for Jones, Lenora G, who shares the author's paternal great grandparents, is a sister of Larry E Jones and also has Harris and both Borads on her match list.
To the right, Butler has Wade ancestry.
Some in this group show Chamberlain, Dickinson or Smith ancestry, while both names appear
in the collateral New England branch with a maternal Jones branch off the Chamberlains.
There are also several similar names: McKee, McGee, while the author
has McKay and seems to be related to Hueys over this ancestor.
Some in this group show Chamberlain, Dickinson or Smith ancestry, while both names appear
in the collateral New England branch with a maternal Jones branch off the Chamberlains.
There are also several similar names: McKee, McGee, while the author
has McKay and seems to be related to Hueys over this ancestor.
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompCampo.htm, where any updates will be made. Campo has Holloway ancestry and shares 48 cM of DNA as well as 35 matches with the author, among them Harris in the comparison row above, which generally has more to do with common Mitchell ancestry. But here, as there is a collateral Holloway line off one of the author's Bacon lines which includes a maternal branch to Martha Woodward b 12 Jun 1597 in London, the match on chr 14 seems to be Bacon DNA, since Deance shares the match on chr 1 that has been associated with the author's maternal grandfather's maternal grandmother's Jamison/Huss/Sill/Baker/Woodward descent. The relationship of these two Woodward lines has heretofore been mere guesstimation, but this brings DNA evidence to support the theory.
Fourth to the right, Hendricks shares Taylor ancestry with the author, while Derrick shares Foote/Berryman ancestry with the author but also has some French ancestry. The match with Derrick on chr 2 is in a range where the author also has matches with his (de la) Fontaine cousins as well as French Canadian Lafontaine descendants, so the latter is more likely to be the ancestral branch responsible for this match. However, Smith/?Willoughby ancestry is expected to be the source of the match with Hyatt, Eaton and Brixhoff and that is on the author's paternal side rather than the Fontaines on his maternal side.
Fifth to the right, Hicks probably descends from the Hicks branch of said Smiths
The graphics of this page have been moved to CompNuckolls.htm, where any updates will be made. Presuming that Nuckolls is a variant spelling of Nicholas and the two Y DNA tests match, some interesting conclusions can be draw about the division of the DNA matching the author's second cousin, David Nicholas, into the various maternal lines branching off our mutual Nicholas ancestral quarter. For then Nuckolls most likely branches off the Nicholas line before G6, where the collateral lines are still rather fuzzy.
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompHulett.htm, where any updates will be made. Hulett shows a group of 4 other DNA matches in common with the author, while one of these, Roach, shows more than ten in common with the Author, some of whom have Pope ancestry. The conclusion is that this smaller group has to do with the longer match on chr 1 or respectively the Everson's segment exactly adjacent to it and Norris's as well as Harrison's and Hulett's continued segments there, i.e. that the author has a rather long segment from the common ancestor of all 6 test persons. Further, that other ancestors are involved in the larger group of matches shown by Roach, whom Hulett does not share.
The length of the supposed DNA segment makes a closer ancestor than 4th great grandparent seem likely, but Hulett's rather extensive pedigree offers only names suggesting an earliest common ancestor at G7 to G12
Hulett has a Wade ancestor with a guesstimated relationship at G12, but Taylors, Andersons and Wilsons in NJ and PA as well as Hestons in NJ and PA. The name similarity between Hester and Heston offers such a closer relation possibility in time and geography, but the author's only known Hester relative to tested does not match Hulett, although she does have matching segments on chr 12 adjacent on both sides of Hulett's longer matching segment there, besides a match in the same range on chr 12 which is not enough to show up as Hulett's match.
The aforesaid larger group of matches on the part of Roach include Nellie Irene Reif, a woman of Norwegian and North Carolina ancestry, whose match with me seems to be based in part on my ancestors of descent from Clan Gunn and the Viking settlement of Orkney and otherwise has given rise to the theory that my Randall/widow Norman marriage in Eastern 17th century Maryland was of two lines descended not from English ancestors, but from the Royal Norwegian Randall and Norman lines. This theory is supported by the fact that McConnaughey with a triple East Maryland Norman Descent shows up as Roaches common match who is not shared by Hulett. Another match in common with Roach is William Mack Brown, who shares as a match in common with the author, Peter James Butler or entirely English/Irish descent, whose common ancestry obviously predates the author's ancestors' immigration to the USA prior to 1750, and in particular the ancestor Alexander Wade of Norwich b 1640.
Of the matches in common with Hulett, Everson shows only Hulett but a match with John Martin Crain, who has the same Anderson of PA ancestry as Hulett, as well as a match with David Allen Ralls, who shows Wakelee ancestry, which might be Wakelyn, and Johnson of Virginia, which could be one of several of the author's collateral lines.
due to Tye's triple descent from Richmond Terrell, all of his matching segments have been labled Terrell DNA, although there are some other possible common ancestors, who might require a change of some of the other lines as more comparisons are made.
The graphics of this row have been move to CompTye.htm, where any updates will be made. The matches with Tye, Cooter and Hyatt on chr 12 indicate a descent from the martyr, Rowland Taylor, while those with the latter two on 1 and 2 may be from more recent ancestors. After receiving my report on this Brenda Cooter wrote, "My grandmother was Leola Winkler of Blowing Rock, NC. Her mother was Lelia Taylor and her father John Winkler of Boone, NC. My grandmother Leola Taylor Winkler married Zeb Farthing of Boone,NC. My father was John Henry Farthing of Boone".
The other matches between 2
or three of them on other chromosomes seem to establish mutual ancestry.
But to the right, we see that Tye also shares a match with me and two Nowegians Dahling and Nordbye on chr 1 while sharing a short match with one of the two Hvidstens on chr 15. This seems to be due to either descent from Clan Gunn (Nelson is a sept of the clan) or English-Norman descent or from the Taylor-Swinderby marriage which turns up 4 times in my maternal grandmother's ancestry and is discussed below under chr 12 and chr 22 in connection with a match with the Norwegian, Terje Myhrvold. However, recent findings indicate that my Randall ancestors and the wife, Johanna widow Norman near the MD/Delaware border may have been the children of early Swedish settlers and could also be the source of the chr 22 match.
Third and fourth to right, Kathy Hays Curtis shares Baker, Harris, Nuding, Tye and Vance
with the author as common DNA matches.
Eighth to the right, a comparison of 4 Scandinavians and Robinson of Taylor and triple Robinson descent.
The graphics of this page have been moved to CompHyatt.htm, where any updates will be made. This is a group matching both me and Hyatt. The Hyatts have a descent from Peregrine Smith, the presumed son of Capt. John Smith, and Eaton has three Hyatt lines. The author's longer matching segment on chr 2 with Eaton and Hyatt was first thought to come from Mary Smith SM6, but matches with a few de la Fontaine descendants at different points along this range have shown it to from that family on the author's maternal side.
In addition Eaton shares my matches with Arlene Taylor and Elizabeth Smith, as we see to the right.
fourth to tenth the far
right we see Hyatt's perspective: I have a definitive common match group of
Brock, Eaton, Jury, Lauer and Brixhoff.
Twelfth to the right Self is an establish ninth cousin on her Cary line but seems to be more closely related
on either her Owens or Johnson line. She probably also shares very remote common ancestry on her Sutton line
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompSelfCarroll.htm, where any updates will be made. This is a group of 17 matches in common with Self who is an establish ninth cousin of the author on her New England Cary line but seems to be more closely related on either her Owens or Johnson line. She probably also shares very remote common ancestry on her Sutton line.
Carroll shares Barbee and Catlett ancestry with the author.
To the right, Anderson and Howe share a segment of Andrews
DNA on chr 16, which might just predate and indicate a Scottish origin of the Andrews family that appeared in Suffolk around 1300.
Third to the right, the match with Matthews on chr 12 does not conform with the pattern of three distinct matching segments identified as Taylor DNA on the author's maternal side. But on his paternal side there is a segment that overlaps the middle and right segments and in particular the distinct gap between them.
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompJett.htm, where any updates will be made. Jett shares the known Pocahontas DNA segment on chr 10, so he must be a descendant of the marriage of Lucinda Owens b 12 Jan 1755 King George Va d 11 Aug 1823 Marietta ohio and Thomas Jett b ABT 1754 in St. Paul's Parish. Hence he must be a descendant of Margaret Bryant Br10-1-1-1.
Second to the right, The Minor borthers share Frye and Owens ancestry, the former maternally and the latter paternally. On my maternal chr 5 there is an adjacent realignment break with my grandfather's conception where I share Frye DNA with the Minors and Salinas from his mother, but Duncan DNA from his father with Bristol. Similarly third to the right, on chr 12
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompHvidsten.htm, where any updates will be made. The Hvidstens share Woodward and Baker ancestry with the author.
Cress has Terrell ancestry and shares the same match along chr 1 with Coalson, Atkisson, Stapleton and Day as well as Burke.
To the right Day is compared with Davidson and Davis
Second to the right, I believe the spelling of the name Atkisson is a shift from Atkinson, which I have found as collateral line in Washington. This line moved to North Carolina before the Revolution, where Burke has many southern ancestors so there is a geographical possiblity here. Nelson also has ancestors in SC and TN.
One peculiarity is Burke's double line to Mary Pile of Charles Co Md: my Pyle line comes into my Ludlows one generation after the Washington/Wakelyn infusion and raises the question of earlier relationship between the Pyles and Washingtons. However Burke does show a Mary Armistead who must connect with mine.
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompNelsonStewart.htm, where any updates will be made.
To the right the names offered by Stewart Nelson are Nelson, Thomas and Dye which occur in some collateral lines and Brooks twice directly in my maternal grandmother’s quarter. Williams is a direct ancestor in my maternal grandfather’s paternal 8th. I suspect there is also a connection between this Williams and the George Williams who married Jean/Jane Pope b 1699/1715 d Apr 1732 in Overwarton Parish, Stafford Co Va
The match with him on chr 22 has been associated with Viking descent via the marriage of Thomas Taylor to the Danish Margaret Swinderby, but also via various Scottish clans of Viking descent, in my case Cumming.
Nancy Owen Nelson has matches on chr 1 that have been identified as part of the author's Harris/Jamison/Huss line DNA. But the match with Nicholas on chr 2 indicates Nicholas/Smith DNA, while the matches on chr 11 indicate she shares the Nicholas/Carter/Ludlow/de Windsor/Andrews descent.
Donachie shares many of my maternal grandmother's lines, most closely Fontaine more likely seen on chr 6, but also Sprigg and Nuthall, which may be the match on chr 5.
Second to the right White is a known Berryman/a> decendant.
as seen from the author's CB
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompCrandall.htm, where any updates will be made. This is a group of nine matches in common with Crandall plus matches with others of the same family names, while of these Fine only matches a few but matches five more on my list. Furthermore, shown below, Ralls also shares a group of 24 matches with the author including these nine, match of all on chr 1 must be from one of the multiple relationships between Donachie and me named below. The closest relationship between us is our ancestor's Fontaine/Terrell marriage making us 4th cousins and most likely resulting in the longer match on chr 6.
Fine has three matches by the name of Barbee, so his ancestry probably goes along a male Barbbee line a few generations more than mine. There are also some names suggesting the Pope/Foote connections to Washington or respectively Tucker>/Allen/Johnson. And besides sharing Crandall, Lang, Lilly and Hedgpeth as matches Fine has Dietrich, Johnson, Nelson, Shelton and Thomas as common matches with me.
2nd to the right, unless we have some unknown common ancestor on the author's paternal side, Crandall, Fine and Farmer have longer matching segments that would have to be a realignment from Wade and Pope DNA. This is possible in all the full siblings of the author's maternal grandmother, but there is another Pope line over his maternal grandfather.
Seventh to the right, Hedgpeth may share Overton descent over her Talley ancestors, but the match on chr 10 shared with Howle seems to be much closer than this remote connection and is most likely on her paternal side
Eighth to the right Howle's
match on chr 17 seems to be Fontaine DNA, but she also shares both
Salmans as common matches,
who share Overton ancestry ba a sibling of the descendant who married
Second and tenth to the right, Lilly is a Bolling descendant
as seen from Crandall's CB
as seen from Crandall's CB
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompNicholas.htm, where any updates will be made. Nicholas shares the author's maternal grandmother's descent, a pedigree registered at the College of Arms in 1974. This line goes over the Nicholas family of Virgina to the maternal line of Elizabeth Carter, whose paternal grandmother, was Sarah Ludlow, whose pedigree was registered at the College of Arms around 1656. Sarah's paternal great grandmother was Edith Windsor, daughter of Andrew, Baron Windsor, and granddaughter of Elizabeth Adrews. So a comparison of various DNA matches with Nicholas is a great aid for seeing whether the matches are in that quarter od the author's ancestry or not. Since Nicholas only share a fraction of his DNA with there, the failure of a match to share a segment with him does not completely preclude common ancestry in the quarter, nor does an apparent match along the same range of a segment preclude the possibility of superimposure of a match with the authors paternal chromosome here on the match with Nicholas on the author's maternal chromosome where his match must be expected.
To the right as determined elsewhere on this page, we see matching Pyle DNA, as aforesaid Sarah Ludlow's mother was Jane Pyle. Mink shares the match on chr 16 identified as Pyle DNA: Robert Pyle born in Bishop Cannings Wiltshire, whom I have able to provisionally place in my Pyle pedigree which also hales from Wiltshire. There is a maternal Webb line though in Pyles' pedigree, aforesaid Nicholas of Roundway Wilts line also has a maternal Webb line, so the likelihood of some of the DNA shared with Pyles being Webb DNA must be held open, Although Nicholas shares the author's descent from Jane Pyle, he does not share this Pyle DNA but is likely to share other Pyle DNA with him or other Pyle descendants. So this still ought to be investigated.
Second to the right comes the comparison
that led to the most spectacular find, Andrews matches on chr 11 and 16 make it seem that we share the same
Andrews descent and that
this DNA has carried through since 1500, also that Dollar's
matches on chr 16 are not Pyle DNA,
but Ludlow or Windsor DNA. From the discovery below that the match on chr 11
is also by Gary Boston and that an Andrews daughter married a Boston
it seems this DNA goes farther back to said
To find further confirmation for this find and fill the gaps for other matches with known ancestry that has not been established back this far yet, the author looked for data on the descendants of other Andrews and Windsor descendants and found a collateral Fowler line off the Windsors, over which descents to four other DNA matches have since been established and matching DNA segments found.
Second to right,
at the right end of the match on chr 16, Nicholas matches one of several short segments where the author also matches
who is a Newton descendant. Here we can provisionally presume that realignment took place in one of the successive generations
leading to the grandparents of Nicholas and the author. This would be Berryman, Foote or Pope.
as seen from the author's CB
as seen from the author's CB
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompConnell.htm, where any updates will be made. Connell lists Pope and Sisson as ancestral names but has not displayed a Gedcom pedigree yet that shows the exact realtionship
Nicholas shares the author's descent from Benjamin Pope but not from his brother Thomas Pope.
as seen from the author's CB
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompCopher.htm, where any updates will be made. This is a group of 24 matches in common with Ralls. Copher shows only Pope as a possible common ancestor. So a provisional marking of all segments shared with him as Pope DNA seems reasonable, allbeit he is presumably a double 11th cousin, hence very remote indeed, so some other closer relationship may yet show up as more pedigrees are posted.
Dondero, Doud and Crandall share realtively long DNA segments with the author and are obviously more closely related to the author than Copher and Ralls, but only Crandall matches on a likely Pope segment on chr 10 while Dondero matches with another on chr 13, and Doud and Ralls match with one on chr 1.
Second to the right, the long matching segments on chr 4 incicate a relatively close relationship, although there seems little possibility of anything nearer than 4th cousin.
Pridgeon shows the typical Swinderby DNA match on chr 22. As possible common ancestral names leading to one of author's direct ancestors he shows Thomas Carter b about 1700 d 1750 Goochland Co Va as well as Richardson Brooks b 1730 Hanover Va and Louisa Wood b May 1827 GA, while the names Fox, Robertson, Montgomery, White, Scarborough, Herrington and Davis might lead to some collateral line.
as seen from the author's CB
as seen from the author's CB
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompSmithJohn.htm, where any updates will be made. The match on chr 2 has been identified as both the DNA of John Smith of Baltimore and that of Capt John Smith of Jamestown.
The matches on chr 16 seem to be Andrews DNA, although about 10 generation are missing to identify the exact descent..
Third to the right, Nelson is a Sisson an Overton/Anderson as well as Clann Gunn descendant.
as seen from the author's CB
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompDollar.htm, where any updates will be made. There is a collateral Dollar line in the author's Prather pedigree as well as a direct Sprigg line and a collateral Kidd line (second to right). Although neither Dollar's nor Kidd's descent from these line have not been established yet, the DNA matches make them seem likely.
The short match with Crandall on chr 1 is the same as that of Boston (2nd to the right) and Markus (8th to the right), which is Andrews DNA, but Dollar and Harrison match on a longer segment overlapping this, so the common ancestor is likely to be closer to author also his Nicholas/Carter /Ludlow/Windsor line of descent, which indicates the Carter - Harrison marriage.
As shown above the matches on chr 11 and 16 have been provisionally identified as Andrews DNA. In the screenshot 2nd to the right, neither Andrews nor Boston's exact descent from this pedigree has been established, but the fact that an Andrews daughter married a Boston coupled with these matching DNA segments are a strong argument for the assumption of this origin for these DNA segments. There is also a Dollar - Windsor marriage in said collateral line, which would explain the Andrews match.
The match on chr 16 adjacent to the other three looks like the result of conceptual gene realignment somewhere along the line of descent, when for Crandall the DNA of another common ancestor was mixed in to form this clean break. Suggesting that this was with the Windsor - Andrews 15/16th century marriage is no more logical than a generation later with the Windor - Ludlow mid 16th century marriage or even later requires exact lineage data. But the longer matches with Crandall, Dollar and Harrison do indicate a closer relationship that may not be on the author's Nicholas/Carter/Ludlow/Windsor/Andrews lineage at all, as these shorter matching segments are products of random gene realignment and may be tumbled in together in any way conform with the infathomable biological laws of affinities of living matter, that some may like to call the hand of God.
The match of all on chr 1 must be from one of the multiple relationships between Donachie and me named below. The closest relationship between us is our ancestor's Fontaine/Terrell marriage making us 4th cousins and most likely resulting in the longer match on chr 6.
To the right, she finds only Hamilton - another Fontaine descendant descended from William Maury Fontaine - as a common match.
Third to ninth to the right is another group of nearly 30 matches in common with Pulliam including Donachie and Sprigg, where apparently several common ancestors are involed, as Sprigg shares half of the author's Maryland Ancestors as well as his Fontaines and Terrells.
as seen from Donachie's CB
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompTaylorThomas.htm, where any updates will be made. As discussed elsewhere on this page, the very short match of four of us on chr 12 speaks for a distant common ancestor, Thomas Taylor b 1572 in Hadleigh Suffolk.
The matche on chr 11 has also been identified above as even more ancient Andrews DNA.
An X chr match as in the case of Cress means that as
seen by both of us the line of descent from
the common ancestors can have no two males in a row and that the lenggth of the
tend to be shorter over a span to the maternal grandmother than from a male to the mother of his maternal
Some of the family names for the author's qualifying lines are shown, although more could be named, but
these are all coded
with green numbers in the author's ancestral index by descent with the more matrnal lines at the
bottom of the page.
Those segments matching Cress may find their ancestral connection over the as yet undetermined line leading to the comon female ancestor.
Michael Williams shows also Harris and Davenport as common ancestors: the former is a great grandmother for me, the latter far more remote, but a family in the same closely knit Norman English society as said Andrews. Some of the Williams may also be Pope descendants via George Williams who married Jean/Jane Pope b 1699/1715 d Apr 1732 in Overwarton Parish Va.
Philip Williams has posted a nice Gedcom pedigree that has allowed the author to specify or at least closely "guesstimate" a number of common ancestors in his Harrison, Taylor, Sprigg, Howard and a href="Bu8MaryBuckner.html#SarahMorganBuckner1712">Buckner pedigrees that lead to other common ancestors.
|The graphics of this row have been moved to CompCooter.htm, where any updates will be made.
Cooter matches with me in 3 ranges on chr 1. Lewis,
Rayburn and Brewer have a very short match with me on chr 6,
the latter two with me on chr 2.
Wanglin and Lewis seem to have a rather long match with me on 17,
Rayburn and Wanglin
seem to match me on 11.
And Wanglin and Brewer seem to match me on chr 5.
Only feed back from these test persons will resolve whether these matches are on the same chromosome of that number or some on my maternal chromosome and some on the paternal.
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompStraubCecil.htm, where any updates will be made. Karolyn Mai Avery matches Cecil Carolyn Straub on chromosome 2.
Joseph Brock has match with Cecil Carolyn Straub which does not show here with me, while my match with him is likely to be either paternal over Gilbert or over Bland/Harris/Jamison/Frye, one of my three matches with Cecil Carolyn Straub seems to be Terrell. There seems to be a slight overlapping of Ewing with Roach and Harrison as well as Malone and Cress
Lois Marie Cress claims to have Terrill/Tyrell ancestors so this is a likely common ancestor.
To the right we see a group of 12 common matches with Larry Hall, who has Brooks, Browne, Taylor,
Harrison, Hammonds and Johnson as
possible common ancestors or collateraals.
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompEaton.htm, where any updates will be made. 9 matching segments on Chromosome 2 and 4 with Samuel Eaton which may be from one or two common ancestors. Further, you will see that Margaret Elaine Brixhoff has an almost equally long matching segment on 2. I believe this match with Eaton and Brixhoff is somewhere on my maternal side while the others may be on my paternal side
Then Thomas Barnes and Lisa Kay Hughes match each other and have a shorter section matching the first two named on 2, while Richard Edward Chancey has a segment that overlaps a different part with Eaton and Brixhof on 2 and continues to match mine outside the match zone with Eaton and Brixhof.
Of Samuel's ancestors I have Hobson about ten generations back on both my maternal Grandmother’s Cary lines. And West you will find there about 15 generations back off my Carter/Ludlow/Windsor/Etchingham line. While it is possible that these distant reltionships of mine might be the source of the match, it seems more probable the match is to be found with Samuel's unknown father.
Richard Edward Chancey’s tree offers only Williams, Carter, Wright as names for a common ancestor with me, and all fairly remote, which is not surprising with the comparatively short matching segment. Wright I have paternally the others maternally. He may descend from George Williams who married Jean/Jane Pope b 1699/1715 d Apr 1732 in Overwarton Parish Va.
Thomas Barnes shows a Garland in his maternal line, which I have in a few places, but again rather remote among both maternal grandparents. A more complete tree might reveal other names though. Both my parents were from Kentucky too.
Lisa Kay Hughes ventures no names other than Hughes, which does occur in a few collateral lines of my maternal grandmother’s family. And Margaret Elaine Brixhoff’s short list fails to ring a bell with me.
We will probably have to wait until
another match or two turns up with
more complete pedi
9 matching segments on Chromosome 2 and 4 with Samuel Eaton which may
be from one or
two common ancestors. Further, you will see that Margaret
Elaine Brixhoff has an almost
equally long matching segment on 2. I believe
this match with Eaton and Brixhoff is
somewhere on my maternal side
while the others may be on my paternal side
Richard Edward Chancey’s tree offers only Williams, Carter, Wright as names for a common ancestor with me, and all fairly remote, which is not surprising with the comparatively short matching segment. Wright I have paternally the others maternally. He may descend from George Williams who married Jean/Jane Pope b 1699/1715 d Apr 1732 in Overwarton Parish Va.
Thomas Barnes shows a Garland in his maternal line, which I have in a few places, but again rather remote among both maternal grandparents. A more complete tree might reveal other names though. Both my parents were from Kentucky too.
Lisa Kay Hughes ventures no names other than Hughes, which does occur in a few collateral lines of my maternal grandmother’s family. And Margaret Elaine Brixhoff’s short list fails to ring a bell with me.
We will probably have to wait until another match or two turns up with more complete pedigrees.
|The graphics of this row have been moved to CompEatonSamuel.htm, where any updates will be made.
Samuel Eaton shows a Hiatt on his maternal side and the patriarch
of the Hyatt project shows two more geerations and a brothe Jesse
for Loretta. The wives here are Wilson,
which I have among my Cary lines,
and Smith, which I also have as the daughter-in-law of Anne Cary.
There is a DNA match on chromosome 2 with Michael Cory Hyatt together with about 9 other samples all with varying degrees of segment overlapping. His extensive family tree offers many possible sources. The Wilson line may have a common ancestor in England though apparently not in Virginia. I have several Brereton connections far back in England. Hobson and West are the only other names we have in common with Samuel Eaton. My Frye line came over PA from Alsace. We also share Garland with another of these. And I have 3 Moores, Humphries, Harris,.
Arnstein Ingulf Olsen shows only a few rather Scandanavian names, which could be my Margaret Swinderby born in Copenhagen or along any of my Norman lines, which Michael Hyatt obviously has as well, snd hence Samuel Eaton too. The extension of the latter's chr 2 match to the left
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompTaylorArlene.htm, where any updates will be made. Arlene Taylor shares 29.88 cM of DNA and 20 matches with the author has a very short matching segment on chr 12, which has been identified as the left one of the three Taylor DNA segments on chr 12. So I would expect Arlene to fit onto my Taylor pedigree somewhere either off my Carys or off my most maternal line. These Taylor lines both have Margaret Swinderby born in Copenhagen about 1500, which would lead to Arnstein’s ancestors somewhere.
Her match on chr 11 has been identified as Andrews DNA but seems to be Orcadian and most any line to the Highlands of Scotland might bear it.
Richard Taylor traces his Taylor line back to Jesse Taylor b 1782 in SC, but only seems to match us both on chr 7, so he may share partly different ancestry with Arlene or, of course just different DNA segments from the same ancestry.
Boyette shares the other two Taylor segments on chr 12.
However the match on chr 2 is longer and most characteristic for forming this group. It is in a range where the author's maternal side brings Fontaine and Wade matches, a descent that does not seem to apply for anyone in this group. So a connection on the author's paterna side seems more likely. Alternatively, the Viking blood in most of my known earliest lines and the common ancestor(s) may be 600 years earlier. Further the Carys of Bristol were seafaring people as well as having Viking ancestry. And there might have been a Cary daughter who married a Hobson, not just the other way around as I have.
Michael George Mackey has a short list of names that do not fit in with the others, although I have a McKay among my Prathers, and Elkins as a collateral line of my Patawomeck pedigree.
At present it seems that the right part of the matches goes back to Taylor and Swinderby while the left part is a regrouping around the Carter - Cary marriage or the Nicholas - Smith marriage or the Nicholas - Prather marriage which goes back maternally to my only McKay.
If this is all on my maternal side then the match on 4 with Eaton probably is too
Daniel Francis Smith matches me an several others on chr 22 in a range suspected of being inherited from the Thomas Taylor/Margaret Swinderby marriage s.b. On chr 2 he seems to match Hyatt and Mackey and on chr 7 he seems to match Arlene Rose Taylor.
First to the right, Eaton sows about twenty ancestral names that might include common ancestors, but for lack of more exact pedigree data there is no way of finding out which ones actually do.
Second to the right,
Third to the right,
Fourth to the right, Stiefel shares Howard and Dorsey as well as probably Pope and Andrews, Thompson and possibly Baker ancestry with the author, not to mention her Wilson, Brooke and Mason lines as additional bell-ringers. McConnell shares an X chr match with the author, meaning that for both this relation is on their respective mother's side. Furthermore, the segment is twice as long as any of the autosomal segments, so the line to the common ancestor is likely to go over at least one male ancestor, but of course, no two males in succession. The possibilities here are marked with green numbers in the author's index pedigree. But this does not mean that the autosomal segments all have to be inherited over this line to the X chr ancestor, in fact the author's paternal grandmother was probably a descendant from his direct male line, but the common ancestor here probably lived long before 1700. However, the author's X inheritance line do include West and Hobbs as shared by Eaton and a double (but questioned) Humphreys line.
Fifth to the right,
|The graphics of this row have been moved to CompBaker.htm, where any updates will be made.
Jane Baker seems to match both Barrus (? bros) on chr 2 and has the characteristic Swinderby match on chr 22.
She is also included in the
William Griffith match group.
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompButler.htm, where any updates will be made. Butler is English and Irish and shares nearly 24 cM of DNA as matches with the author. Of them Jones shares 126 cM of DNa with the author in a group of 39 matches including a few who have been located in the author's most paternal 1/32 ancestral sector, although some of the author#s maternal ancestry may be involved in forming this larger group. Wright and Taylor seem to be likely lines for this group.
Berryman seems to be on my two Pope/Foote/Berryman lines. Brown has Bridges as an ancestor,
while this was the name of the second husband of my
Mary Sisson widow Pope.
The son of her first marriage Nathaniel Pope III married Jane Brown,
of Original Brown and Jane Brooks. So the short
match of both Brooks and Brown with me on chr 2 seems to be from the latter union,
while the short
match just to the right of that seems to be from the union of their grandson, Benjamin Pope, with
2nd to the right, Crandall has Randall of Anne Arundel Co Md, as do I. But her connection with this line has not been exactly established yet. Barnes has Garland, which I have a few times.
Second to the right, Butler just may be related to the Butler ancestry I share with the Washingtons, but he does have Wade ancestry of Norwich England, which offers a far more singular family name for likely common ancestors. However, one of the two short matches on chr 12 has been identified as Taylor DNA (or possibly other Orcadian descent) predating Thomas Taylor born 1572/3 in Hadleigh suffolk. So some of the segments labled as Wade here may, in fact, be Taylor.
|Floyd Brown lists Dungan as an ancestor, which may be a spelling shift from Duncan,
of which I have two lines over my
maternal grandfather's paternal side. He also shows Gilbert, Which I have on my
paternal grandfather's paternal side.
Bruegel shows Mitchell, which is the maidenname of my paternal grandfather's mother.
Joe Brown might share either of my maternal grandmother's Brown line, which are both on her mother's side via the Popes to Original Brown or over James Brown.
Bruce and Tye match each other Evidently the second screenshot copied over the first, so both were the same.
But second to fifth to the right, Floyd Brown reports a group of 8 common matches: Brieno, Cosby, Hawkins, Pennington and Thompson. On chr 12 to the right and left of the break I have identified two very short matching segment that are common for descendants of Sarah Hobbs to Samuel Lawrence, who had Owings, Dorsey, Howard, Moore and Moriarty ancestors, but Basil Hobbs, brother of Sarah, married Mary Ann Dorsey, who shares the Howard ancestry. Hawkins reports Howard, Moore and Carroll ancestors. The latter could be the collateral Carroll branch of my Sprigg ancestors, who were also in the same area Maryland but not in my maternal grandmother’s maternal grandmother’ 1/16th sector. She also lists Speers, which I have collaterally in an entirely differnt branch in PA Bland/Harris/Jamison/Frye to collateral Speers Thompson also lists Woodruff, Allen, Raborn (?= Rayburn) and Avery, which are names of some of my matches. So either some different ancestors may be involved here or there are other intermarriages in collateral lines. In conclusion, the short coinciding matches on chr 2, 3, 10, 11, 12 and 16 make it certain that there is common ancestry respectively for at least 3 to five us, but possibly only one couple. If the Campbell connection proves correct the matching DNA on chr 10 has its origin somewhere along the Bayse/Coppage/Cumming line.
as seen from the author's CB
|The graphics of this row have been moved to CompCrouch.htm, where any updates will be made.
An 8 segment match on chromosome 3 with Richard Earl Crouch, Michael
V Rogers overlaps on one end of this,
while John Watkins matches with most
of the remaining segments but not with the latter. The gene regrouping
make it conceivable that these have just one common ancestor
or that they are from two or more ancestors in
G.M Goodwin probably matches only me on three as well as on chromsome 17, Walter Alcorn is also elsewhere.
Michael V Rogers shows his male line and the names of their spouses, the first being Vera louise Sutton, the secon Callie Pearl Green.
I do have Suttons and Greenes in various places 12 to 25 generations back, but the two other maternal line may have other names in maternal branchings as well.
|The graphics of this row have been moved to CompHartness.htm, where any updates will be made.
While the longer matches of Hartness on chr 3 do not all coincide with those of the other, the various
on 2, 7, 12 and 16 make a common
ancestor for all of us seems likely.
|The graphics of this row have been moved to CompHarris.htm, where any updates will be made.
Five of us match on chromosome 3 over 11 to 14 segments.
My Maternal grandfather’s mother was a Harris of Bagdad Ky. But I cannot see your family names, nor for Darlene Faye Hatch, nor Betty Jean Markus.
James Miller Ross shows a splendid array of Scottish names that do not match mine except for Miller in Fauquier Co Va about 1740, where my Harris line may have come from and where I have a Miller on the maternal side of Kenton about 1730.
|The graphics of this row have been moved to CompHarrisJames.htm, where any updates will be made.
Five of us match on chromosome 3 over 11 to 14 segments.
My maternal grandfather’s mother was a Harris of Bagdad Ky. But I cannot see your family names, nor for Darlene Faye Smotherman, nor Betty Jean Markus.
James Miller Ross shows a splendid array of Scottish names that do not match mine except for Miller in Fauquier Co Va about 1740, where my Harris line may have come from and where I have a Miller on the maternal side of Kenton about 1730.
|The graphics of this row have been moved to CompSmotherman.htm, where any updates will be made. The rather identical match on Chromosome 3 with all three Smotherman tests and that of James Edwin Harris together with the matches on 10 with the former and 15 and 16 with the latter indicate common ancestors for the six of us.|
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompSears.htm, where any updates will be made. The Sears brothers descend from a Reuben Payne of Virginia who seems to be the same as the Reuben in the author's collateral line putting the common ancestor at G10 and making us 8th cousins, which is a bit remote for the long matching segment. John E Harris (shares Mitchell ancestry with the author at G6.) show a closer relationship to me, Charles Stephanie and James somewhat more remote. Only three of them match me on chr 3, but the matches on chr 1, 2, 5 7 10, 12 and 17 speak for a mutual relationship of all 6 of us. As my maternal grandfather's mother was Levicy Jane Harris of Bagdad, Shelby Co Ky and Sears had Harris ancestors in Mason and Barren Co Ky, this is a likely connection. But the Sears brothers also have Anderson ancestry, while many of the US Andersons are descendants of the Robert Anderson - Mary Elizabeth Overton marriage. Furthermore, I have been able to identify a descendant of theirs of the same name and contemporary with the earliest Sears ancestor of this branch: Thomas Anderson b about 1725/30. And there is another Overton sister who married a Harris. This would be a rather remote relationship to be showing a comparatively strong DNA match, but there are also Garland, Spencer and Massie lines involved and possibly also Beverley, which I have elsewhere. And there is a collateral Sears line off the author's Barbee and Catlett lines, although this does not seem to this Sears branch.
To ther right are several comparisons matching me on chr 3, the long match with Sears indicates a closer relationship than with Bittner and Lowe Stephanie Harris with a short match ther for Dirker.
The matches on chr 12 and 22 reveal Taylor (or alternatively Gilbert)
and respectively Taylor/Swinderby descent.
And Dickerson does show Taylor ancestry as well as Terrell (this seems to be the longer match along chr 11),
Carter, Bruce, Payne, Wade, Cooke and Smith plus my collaterals
Pendleton, Scrope, Page, Harrison, Walton, Reynolds,
Page and Edwards.
Kilian shows Cline from Alsace which is the area where both Gilbert and Frye passed through.
Seventh to ninth to the right are three screenshots of a group of eight common matches
taken with Joseph Ball's CB.
Tenth to the right, Martin descend from James Owens b 1826 in ?KY
Eleventh to the right, a comparison has been made with a rearrngement to accomodate the author's
display for some of these chromosomes. It is hard to say which side of the author's family is displayed
on top or bottom
and which side the matches are on. But since common matches with Richard Sears are compared,
most of the coinciding
segments may be deemed to match on the same side of the author's family.
Eleventh to the right,
Some chr bars of the author's Eurogene K36 ethnic distribution display have been blended in.
Only half of the bar can apply for the ethnic resolution, as both maternal and paternal chromosomes are displayed in each bar, without clarification of whether the top or bottom half is the one or the other. So the same ethnic distribution displays are needed for the other test persons to be certain which ethnic source applies. These can be obtained for free as www.gedmatch.com after registering and uploading both your autosomal and X chr test results.
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompPenner.htm, where any updates will be made. Penner shares 10 matches and 34.45 cM of DNA with the author, his grandson, Froehlich, Matthews, L`Heveder and now 7 others.
The comparison to the left shows several coinciding matching segments with the longest on chr 12 (Finnoscandian or on the right possible North Sea and on the very left possible admixture of either North Sea or a choice either Basque near East) and other shorter ones on chr 1 (central European or Pictish), 2 (left Pictish, right central European or North Sea), 10 (left central European or North Sea, right East Central Europe of North Sea), and 20 (West Caucasian). The Picts are a people who originated in the area of Iran/Iraq about 4000 BC and were in Egypt at the time or the Pharaohs and migrated along the coast of Africa before crossing over to Etrusca and Iberia, hence the racial designation Iberian. From there they moved across Gaul to southern Britain before being driven north by the Celtic advance. So they may have picked up some Caucasian, near Eastern and African DNA on the way.
since the author's 4th Hester cousin (Darla Scott-Seyffert, below threshold for group list but with signicant matches in it anyway) also matches on most of this segment on chr 12, it is relatively that this DNA segment is from this paternal 1/32 ancestral sector and the paternal half of that geographically fits that of the Penner line. But the others' matching segments, that do not coincide with Penner's could well be from ancestors in entirely different sectors of the author's ancestry.
Stefan Froehlich writes: "Peter Penner is my grandfather (father's father). I have three Mennonite lines (paternal Penner/ Peters) and my mother`s Mother (Rempel). The ancestors of my Froehlich's grandfather were protestants and lived in Volhyn; Ukraine, and in Poland. I know little of my grandfathers paternal ancestors. His grandparents (Peter Penner (1855-?) and Helene Enns) were born in the Mennonite Molotschna, Ukraine, before they moved to Siberia. The surname Penner comes from the Netherlands. 80 % of the Mennonite Penner are related to each other. The y-dna haplogroup indicates, that our ancestor came from Spain or Northafrica to the Netherlands. About my grandfather's mothers (Helene Penner, nee Janzen), I know much more. A Johann Janzen was married to Anna Buller. The Buller line lived in the Mennonite Przechowka (westprussia) congregation 200 years. Heinrich Buller (1580) moved from Switzerland about Moravia to Przechowa, Westprussia. My other Mennonite ancestors from Przechowa (Cornelsen/ Unruh, Richerts) came from the Netherlands. (Schmidt/ Becker/ Fuhrmann) were Lutheran protestants in Westprussia before they become Mennonites. At Family finder I have no direct match to Lewis, Shortridge, Fenshaw, McCrimmon, Armstrong and Waren.".
First to right,
is a screenshot with Briley, Foehlich, Gray, Graybeal L´Heveder Olsen Nicholson
The new entrance of Reich in this group lends a bit of credence to the family legend the that the immigrant Hester wife, Abigail Wright, was descended of "the prominent family Reichte".
First to the right, a comparison of four of this group with Scott-Seyffert show short but distinct matches with others in this group Steward and Stewart match on or close to an Andrews segment on chr 10 and 11, although this is a maternal line for the author, so the origin might be somewhere else on his paternal side.
Second to the, a comparison of four of the group and Fry, who evidences one of the Taylor segments on chr 12 and Swinderby on chr 22.
Third and further to the right for detection of any possible matching Hussite DNA, are additional comparisons with Wallace, Brock, Greybeal, Walters, Greene and Haddow showing other possible matches on chr 5, 6 7, 8 10 and 20 that might identify common ancestors, if all tested match each other. fourth to the right, the rather short matches on the other chromosomes also indicate a relationship to Shortridge and Fanshaw. These people were by and large Swabian Protestants drawn from much the same region of Germany that very few of my protestant German ancestors came from. These are the Frye line from the area between Alsace and Zurich associated with the Moravian Church on my maternal grandfather's maternal grandmother's side and Gilbert on my paternal grandfather's paternal grandmother's side. The latter were actually not German but of French Hugenot extraction only in the area of Simsheim the latter half of the 17th century, but they did have cousins who have stayed in that area until today. It is quite possible that members of either of these families accepted the invitation to settle in South Russia and became the ancestors of Penner and Froehlich, but an ethnic study published in 1934 shows that several Dutch Mennonites fled from the Spanish inquistion to East Friesland in the period between 1520 and 1570 where they met Hussite refugees. From this area several families of these Mennonites were resettled outside Danzig after the first partition of Poland, and from there many where later resettled to South Russia. Among the 12 most common names of both resettlement groups was none other than Penner.
The shorter match of Armstrong, McCrimmon and Waren on chr 12 seemingly coinciding with part of the longer one
there of Froehlich and Penner is probably an optical illusion and on my paternal chr 12 because this is the
characteristic range for Taylor descendants and must be on my maternal chromosome, although any one of them
could be of
Gilbert descent and hence be on my father's side.
Sixteeth to the right shows a group of four plus the author sharing DNA on chr 12 with Penner that must come from the Mennonite/Hussite community of East Friesland. for the author, this is DNA from the marriage of John/?Jacob Hester, who arrived in Pennsylvania in 1753 at the age of 24, and/or his wife Abigail Wright. The latter name seems less likely as a source for this DNA, while the Hester Y DNA is haplogroup R1b1a2a1a1a with said area as a likely source. It is hard to say whether these American lines branch off the author's line of descent in the generation of this couple's as yet unlisted children or before. If in the following generation the trail should be easy to find, as the list of grandchildren and great grandchildren is rather complete.
Last to the rightt is a comparison of three of them plus Fry and Atkisson as likely matches in this 1/16th sector of my ancestry.
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompReynolds.htm, where any updates will be made. This is a a group of 17 matches in common with Reynolds that partially overlaps the groups above.
Reynolds is a Fontaine, a Molyneau and Montegue descendant. Reynolds shares Fontaine and Overton ancestry with the author as well as more ancient connections over the Molyneaux and Montague.
To the right, Kelley shows a William Scarborough
Walden is also included in the
William Griffth match group.
|The graphics of this row have been moved to CompWalden.htm, where any updates will be made. The matches on chr 7, 10, and 12 are more indicative of a common ancestor than those on chr 3.|
|The graphics of this row have been moved to CompSmothermandarlene.htm, where any updates will be made. The rather identical match on Chromosome 3 with both Smotherman tests and that Of James Edwin Harris, Ross Markus together with the myriad of smaller matches on various other chromosomes indicate common ancestors for the six of us.|
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompHayden.htm, where any updates will be made. Although these matches, White, Hayden, Ross, Hartness and Kellum seem to have longer matches with me elsewhere, there seems to be a cluster of mutual matches in the middle of chr 3 and elsewhere in various places between two of them.
Bruce Hayden shares Prather ancestry with the author on a line os Stockton descent, which may also be the family of Damaris the maternal line off the author's Wyatt line. But he also has a Harris and Smith line that may connect with the author's.
Hayden and Barber include each other in respective groups of common matches with the author but otherwise entirely different matches. The same applies for Brown, who also has Hayden as a common match but not Barber, although she shares a match on chr 12 with him. This only means that the total DNA shared is below the threshhold of around 22 cM for being listed as a match.
To the right, Barber shows almost entirely English born ancestry, so for the author at least the common ancestors were born before 1730 which makes a good eight generations. The more obvious connection seems to be his Taylor line. We see a match with him and and Brown on chr 12 to the right of and adjacent to a segment that has been identified as coming from Thomas Taylor b 1572 in Hadleigh Suffolk. Although is possible that there is another source for the author's DNA here, his maternal grandmother did have four lines of descent from this Thomas Taylor so it is quite likely that author's Taylor DNA is longer here than his other matches. But since almost all Taylor descendants matching here have Taylor DNA segments that end rather exactly here, we may conclude that their branches experienced a realignment break at this point while Barber's line lost their segment for the reason but retained the adjacent segment. For the time being this match seems reason enough to "guesstimate" a descent for Barber's Taylors from a brother or uncle of said Thomas Taylor as linked to above.
Barber also has Waite and Griffiths ancestors, while the author has Waits and Griffith. The form seems the same name with variant spellings and both Griffith and Griffiths come from anglicized Welsh patronymics, so different male lines may be involved unless by coincidence my immigrant ancestor was the son of the same Griffith ap Y who was also the father of Barber's ancestor who moved from Wales to England and got similarly tagged. But the inbreeding in Wales is likely to produce such matches
Watson, who is only listed as a match in common with Hayden, shows the more common match on chr 12 for American Taylor descendants as well as a match on chr 22 typical for descendants or TT's wife, Margaret Swinderby born 1578 in Copenhagen (this match occasionally shows up for Clan Gunn i.e. Orcadian Viking descendants). But Watson also shares definite Fontaine ancestry with the author, and Sisson pops up as a most uncommon middle name of one of his ancestors so the other matching segments with him must be either Fontaine or Sisson DNA. The match on chr 5 shared with Hayden has been identified below as Wade DNA, a maternal line off Fontaine, but as sister-in-law of his Francis Fontaine, which indicates an error or requires further explanation, if it is not an adjacent Fontaine segment. Three of the Fontaine siblings of this generation remained in the UK, so some UK matches with Fontaine DNA can show up.
Julia Hayden shares a segments on chr 1, 3, 5 and 11 that her father does not, so thes segments must be from her mother and from different ancestors.
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompRayAustin.htm, where any updates will be made. Sue Davis, Austin Jerry Ray and Elizabeth Smith match me on 4 over most of the the same range as Samuel Eaton, see chr 2 above. This range of match seems to be from either the Nicholas - Smith marriage then from the latter or from the earlier Nicholas - Cary marriage then from the former of these two.
Austin Jerry Ray has only Willson as bell ringer among the 10 names he shows. While I have Wilson as a maternal line off Cary. If this is the source the other two must have some connection here too. But there is David Hamilton Wilson as a collateral line in the Frye pedigree who married Elizabeth Davis Ewalt 1818-1897, which seems more likely, especially as her sisters also married his apparent brothers, as well as her brother married the three brother's sister, among another dozen Frye - Wilson liasons in this pedigree.
Elizabeth Smith has Buchanon and Thurston and her Nees may be my Neaves. Buchanon is the mother of my aforesaid Smith and Thurston is a variant of Thruston which come in two genertions later on my Nicholas line.
Second to seventh on the right, is a group of 26 matches shared with Buckner including Belcher. Johnson has Belcher ancestry with Clay and Mitchell lines so Mitchell may be a common ancestor. In other comparisons two matches close to each other on chr have been found to be Taylor DNA and would be from the authors maternal grandmother. But here we have a longer segment that includes the range of both segments and the short range inbetween indicating a match on the author#s paternal side. This could be Mitchell DNA then, while there are indications that the paternal DNA to the left of this range is Gilbert DNA paternally.
The inclusion of Froehlich and Penner in this group adds a distinctive note, since they are from Cologne Germany with a mixture of Mennonite and Eastern European ancestry. This lets the longer matches on chr 12 appear to be Hester DNA, which seems to be in a range of solid North Sea DNA while the short split between the middle and right Taylor DNA segments (also North Sea) has a color that may be American Indian.
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompAnderson.htm, where any updates will be made. This is a group of 25 matches in common with Anderson who descends from Seth Prather In this group is my 2nd cousin by my maternal grandmother, David Nicholas, who shares my Prather, Fontaine, Terrell, Hammond, Smith and Wyatt ancestry, as well as two Clan Gunn septs, Wilson and Robinson. But some are no on his list, so there are some common ancestors in at least one of the other ¾ of my ancestry.
Second to the right, Johnson has Jennings ancestry, of which my maternal grandfather had two lines. She also shows Tucker, which I have quadruplely over both maternal grandparents, as well as MacKay, a maternal line off the Prathers, and a Taylor – Walters marriage that could get into the lineage of both my maternal grandparents, Byrd, a multiple collateral line, Barnes which might be the Dusenberys maternal side. So whereever Anderson, Nicholas and Johnson all match each other and the author must be MacKay DNA, which is one very narrow segment on chr 7.
McGrew shows Gaskins ancestry, = Gascoigne and ties in with my mat. grandmother’s quadruple Taylor ancestry plus other more ancient Gascoigne lines
Suther shows in another common match group with the Dusenberys, where finding the link to their Andrews ancestry is still a problem. The Salmans get into my mat. grandfather’s Harrisons on an as yet "guesstimated" connection supported primarily by DNA matches and unsubstantiated maternal line data in various pedigrees.
Fifth to the right, Wandell has Harris and Fry line in colonial MA,
a Foote line "guesstimated" in the author's
double Foote descent back in England at G12,
as a Spencer line, while the author has a questionable Jennings/Spencer connection and an otherwise inexplicable
first name of a second great grandfather suggesting Spencer descent.
|The graphics of this row have been moved to CompLaur, where any updates will be made.
In the second screen shot we see more overlapping matches at the end
of Matching segments with James Laur.
These seem to be from my Bland/Duncan
For Van Edward Garrett there is also little offered (coincidence that my paternal grandmother’s father was named after US Congressman Garrett Davis – no relation) but his Garret ancestor married a Walton while my paternal great grandmother Susan Jane Mitchell was the daughter of Charlotte Hester, whose presumed aunt married a Walton and they moved from Virginia to the area of Brooksville Ky. I believe the next generation of that family was in Illinois. So this match seems to be on the second of chromosome pair 4, which might explain some of these overlappings.
Some information from David Allen Ralls would help too, as would from Gaylord David Alfrey and Elena Marie Lasker.
Maria L Doyle shows a few names, but none help me.
|The graphics of this row have been moved to CompLaurJames.htm, where any updates will be made.
An 18 segment match on chromosome 4 with James Laur. Scott Matthew
Hamp matches along part of this ,
while Georgia Kay Cannady matches along
most of the rest of this and Wayne Gayle Austin and Gaylord David Alfrey
along part of this and go a little beyond yours. The shorter matches of 2
or 3 of these with me chr 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 12
and 16 make a common ancestor seem likely.
I have found the name Austin as a collateral line of my double Pope line as well as in the Bland/Pope part of the pedigree (2 of my gr grandfather, Thomas Pope Bland's sisters married Austins).
Laur's paternal line shows only Lawr in Ontario, where I have no ancestors. But Neitzer in Darmstadt rings a geographical historical bell. My maternal grandfather’s grandmother was a Jamison and her line includes the Calvinist Frye family driven from Alsace by Louis XIV to Pennsylvania. But not all Alsatian Protestants left for America and siblings may have preferred the shorter trip across the Rhine where countless Hugenots were gratefully received after the 30 Years War had reduced the German population from 24 million in 1618 to only 6 million in 1648. This is, of course, only one possibility.
Scott Matthew Hamp offers no names except showing that he comes from Flint very near my hometown of Saginaw, but my parents were from Kentucky.
Georgia Kay Cannady offers a few more names that ring no bells, except Texas, which goes with Austin.
Wayne Gayle Austin offers the names Williams, Taylor, Duncan and Miller that ring bells. My Taylor pedigree does show a Robert Taylor b c.1715 VA d 1807 NC m Susannah Anderson. He probably had more than the one son I have included in the pedigree. My immigrant Duncan at Jean/Jane Pope b 1699/1715 d Apr 1732 in Overwarton Parish Va.
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompWebber.htm, where any updates will be made. While the longer matches on chr 4 do not all coincide with each other, the various short matches of 2 or 3 of them with me on chr 2, 5, 6, 7 10 and 12 make a common ancestor for all of us seem likely.
To the right Webber is compared with Vaughn, Straub, Garrett and Dondero.
Second to fifth to the right, a group of 16 matches in common with Kellar including some of the above matches. ,
Sixth and seventh to the right,Tracing Powhatan and Cherokee descent was anything but easy until the advent of genetic genealogy and a closer look at details has not become much less baffeling. While some marriages of native Americans into the leading families of Virginia were recorded and peaceful assimilation was achieved, this was hardly the rule. It is not yet clear whether the matching DNA segment on chr 10 were DNA specific to the Powhatans or also shared by other tribes. It is likely that there were relations between the Powhatans and Cherokees prior to 1600 as well as to other tribes further west. But it is also likely that many Powhatan and Patawomeck descendants took refuge with the Cherokees and other tribes further west as British colonisation expanded. The Trail of Tears brought the last of them west of the Mississippi to the area where Redifer has managed to trace her native American ancestry.
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompWandell.htm, where any updates will be made. Wandell shares 28,27 cM and 47 matches with the author
While the longer matches on chr 4 do not all coincide with each other, the various matches of 2 or 3 of them on other chromosomes indicate that there is a common ancestor innvolved.
Wandell has Priscilla Foote as ancestor, born about the same time and place as my Robert Foote b c 1553 in Shalford d Feb 1606/07 in Shalford, England. But he also has Root as an ancestral name, which shows up as ancestors of other of the author's DNA matches as well as a collateral line of the author's Reade ancestry in the variant form Rootes, as well as Baker, and Harrington but his direct male branches off early to a Thyssen Hendricks b c 1620 in East Friesia or Hanover Germany, while there is reason to believe that the author's direct male also had a Hester - Hendricks marriage before 1720 in about the same area.
The long match on chr 4 might be on my paternal side, since 2 2nd great aunts of my Hesters , if it is all on the paternal side. But at least the part matching Wandell seems to be Foote or Reade DNA, while the parts on either side are then likely to be from a spouse in one of the generations closer to the author on his maternal side. If so the core shared by Wandel and many others in the group would be Foote DNA inherited from common ancestors at G14 = "Fo14 John Foote b 1523 in Royston Hertsfordshire near Colchester d 1558 in Royston Hertsfordshire m Helen Ellen Warren dau of Richard Warren b 1501 in Bassingbourn Cambridgeshire d 1557 in Bassingbourn and Alice Jenawaye".
The short matches on chr 1, 10 , 11, 15, 16 and 19 seem to confirm a match of all on the same side, while the characteristic match of Doyle and Drabold on 12 indicate a descent from Rowland Taylor, the martyr, on my mother's side, unless that is a coincidental match in the same range on my father's side too.
On the right
Third to the right, Anderson has McCarty ancestry that might be a collateral line of of the
author's double Pope Lineage
as well as Howard, Taylor and Williams ancestry.
Half of those in this match group are also discussed in other groups or groups of their Own:
as seen by the author's CB.
|The graphics of this row have been moved to CompPyle.htm, where any updates will be made.
Walsh, Brock, Brooks and Claxton have the one or both of the
typical Taylor DNA segments on chr 12.
The short segment to the right on chr 16 shared by
Walsh and Claxton seems to be Pyle DNA.
There are 3 characteristic segments on chr that
have been frequently discussed on this page as
and there is a very short segment between the middle
and right segments,
which three of these matches evidence.
The author has four lines of Taylor descent by his
maternal grandmother, so he may have inherited these three
segments by one, two or three of these descent lines.
But for three matches to occur exactly on the slot between
two of these segments it seems more likely that the
author inherited the DNA of a spouse on one and the same lines
of direct Taylor descent, while the matches here
had a sibling ancestor who inherited more of the spouse DNA.
This analysis is supported by one of these three
matches evidencing the Taylor segment on the left and a fourth
match in the group of common matches evidencing it as well.
So we can expect comparisons made in the CB's of these
matches to evidence somewhat different segments ranges of Taylor and spouse DNA.
Mink shows Johnson and Miller, as well as Spencer,
Walker (a frequent match ancestor and occasional collateral name for me),
various other names in Pennsylvania.
Whereas I have the Pyle DNA over Jane Pyle b 1561 Babton Wilts d 1648 Baycliff Wilts, the Nottinghams, Claxton, Crockford, Mink, Walsh and Pyles all seem to have it over her grand nephew, Robert Pyle b about 1660 Bishop Cannings Wilts d 1736 Bethel Delaware Pa. although a descent from any of the other siblings of Jane's daughter, Sarah Ludlow my have carried this DNA.
Ninth to the right, a connection revealed by Lepard's Gedcom pedigree between White (with a guesstimated Page line) and Mitchell descendants seems to bring a lot of these names together, where the longer match on chr 4 seems to be a connection of the author's Ky Mitchells and the other Mitchells in NC. On the other hand there seems to be a Page descent of several of the author's matches, so it seems reasonable to assume that the celia Page in question was a daughter of Mann Page and either his first wife, Judith Armistead Wormeley b 1695 Middlesex Co or his second wife Judith Carter b c 1694
Twelfth to the right, O'Grady shares a group of six common matches including Cartwright.
Thirteenth to 17th to the right, The group of 21 in common with Walsh includes largely the same matches as in this row and the one immediately below.
as seen by the author's CB. Walsh, Goodrich and Davis have the one or both of the typical Taylor DNA segments on chr 12
The normal DNA display has been split up and several bars of the author's ethnic distribution blended in to analyse the origins of various segments and better identify possible ancestor donors of these segments.
|The graphics of this row have been moved to CompCartwright.htm, where any updates will be made.
Cartwright has nearly 70 matches in common with the author
and a very long match on chr 4 shared entirely by
Dondero and , who both share Mitchell ancestry,
while the long list of matches indicates that more than one pair of ancestors are involved in forming this group.
In fact, Lepard now shares all of 72 matches with author and also has a Posey
line presumably the same as with a maternal Harrison branch
that probably connects with the author's.
This long segment seems to come from the
grandfather and presumably mostly the lower half of the segment, i.e. more Est Mediterranean on the left, North Sea
in the middle
and East Med/ West Asian and East Med again on the right. This combination makes Jamison DNA the more
likely source for the North Sea parts,
and Huss, Sill, Walter, Frye etc. for the East Med and West Asian parts.
The historical movement involved
would be the conversion of Bohemia to Christianity at the end of the first
millenium and the rise of an educated class in Prague, the suppression of
the Hussites by the Hapsburgs and the
flight of the former to all parts of Europe not under Hapsburg domination. The assimilation of these refugees
into all later Protestant communities i.e. Lutheran, Calvinist, Puritan, Presbyterian and Mennonite etc.
is evidenced by the appearance of either
East European, East Mediterranean, Baltic or West Asian DNA in lines
including descents from all these religious groups.
To the right, Canady and Edwards match on the middle third or North Sea section of the segment on chr 4, but also on an Andrews DNA segment on chr 11 (also Webber, sixth to the right). Edwards and Lepard match on two different Pyle or Webb DNA segements. The Pyle match for this 17th century identification is seen in the row below.
Second to the right, are additional ethnic comparisons.
Third to the right, O'Toole seems to match exactly on the segment between the middle and right Taylor segment, so this could be DNA from the spouse of the Taylor descendant on whichever of the author's four Taylor lines is involved here. At present the direct maternal line seems most likely, in which case the successive spouses would be Nin, Gascoigne, Basye, Coppage, Cumming, Hobbs as discussed below for the 7th screenshot to the right. Moody is on an Owens, Kenton or Miller segment on chr 12
Fourth to the right, Plumlee seems to share Andrews descent as seen on chr 11, but he also exhibits an adjacency to the segments where Pridgeon , Ralls, Webber and Wright match on chr 4. This can come from the author's longer segment being the combination of an ancestral couple's DNA, where Pridgeon, Ralls and Wright are on collateral lines of the one ancestor Plumlee, Wohlgemuth and Maricle are on the collateral line of the other.
Seventh to the right, the author's maternal DNA on chr 12 seems to split into 3 distinct Taylor segment from his maternal grandmother's 4 Taylor lines, while his paternal line shows a longer Owens/Kenton/Miller segment overlapping the left Taylor segment (both East European, by the way) and a longer Hester/Wright/Gilbert/Christian segment overlapping both the middle and right Taylor segment (both sides North Sea, by the way). Hence interpretation here is a bit difficult, but it seems that Wohlgemuth matches some paternal Owens, Kenton or Miller DNA and the maternal left Taylor segment, while Wright seems to match on part of both paternal segments, and Lepard seems to match here on only the right Taylor segment. Cartwright matches here on either Atlantic or Baltic DNA. The Atlantic might be Gilbert and indigenous French Huguenot DNA, if it is paternal. The Baltic DNA could be any of the author's maternal Hussite or more immediately Huguenot lines, which would apply for the Gilbert line as well. At this time it is still impossible to say whether the match is on the Baltic or the Atlantic range, and the shortness of all the segments shown on chr 12 except for Wright indicate that the common ancestry could be at G12+. The author's 4th gr grandmother was indeed a Wright, but Wright's pedigree does not go back this far.
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompLowryConnie.htm, where any updates will be made. Connie Lowry shares 38.9 cM of DNA and 13 matches with the author and shows Ashton, Brown, West, Parker, Thurston, Light (Gingrich is a collateral line in one of the author's pedigrees, Martin in several, as is Davis).
The low tally in the group and the convergence of most in the group on the longer segment on chr 2 indicate relatively few common ancestral lines, if more than one at all. The author has other short matches in this range which seem to be his Nicholas/Prather/Fontaine/Wade line in his maternal grandmother's paternal grandmother's 1/16th ancestral sector and have nothing to do with these matches, so the relationship must be on the author's paternal side.
The Lowry sisters have a maternal German branch which may relate to the author's direct male line, but before 1730.
The closer double of the author's three West lines, double Elliott, Parker, as well as Baker are all in his maternal grandfather's mother's 1/8th ancestral sector, who all seem to have been among the earliest Pennsylvania settlers, as were his paternal grandfather's paternal grandfather's paternal 1/32nd sector and his paternal grandmother's McConnell and Ruth lines.
First to the right, of the ancestral names shown by Greene. only Harris rings a bell. And of those shown by Humphreys, Cole, Evans, Ellis, Ruth, Williams and Wilson appear among the author's ancestral names, although he has other lines like Smiley, Smith, Buchannan, McConnell, Dorsey and possibly Garland and others that are only traced back to Irish immigrants. Gray Meyer shows Rhute as a possible variant of Ruth. Jordan shows Wood(s).
Second to the right, Thomas of an Australian family shares a remarkable 30.63 of DNA with the author and shows Buchanan, Baker, Elliott, Moore and Williams. Weber shows Butler, Warner and Willie (?= variant of Wylie) and his Friend line might be a collateral of Frye, except that there is no sign of Pennsylvanian ancestry in his relatively well documented ancestry. So we are looking for common ancestors before 1700.
The matching segments on chr 12 with Boyette, Humphreys, Malcolm, Jordan, Taylor and Mayer are in a range where rather
differentiating interpretation is needed. They may involve
the same ancestor (pair) but may also be from different sides of the author's family.
The very short matching segments are more likely from remote ancestorsin the range G10 to 20.
While Thomas matches on the middle Taylor segment on Chr 12 and the Swinderby segment on chr 22. Taylor matches on the right
Taylor segment, Jordan on the left Taylor segment and Humphreys just to the left of that. The author's 3 or four Taylor descents
are all in his maternal grandmother's quarter. As discussed in several rows on this page about half of the roughly 250 people matching on
one or more of these Taylor and or Swinderby segments do show Taylor ancestry, while the others have too little ancestral data to
know whether they have Taylor ancestors or not. The only ones to match in the gaps between the middle and right
or respectively longer left gap are either in the Penner match group or in a group with someone who is,
hence on the author's paternal side. This is the case for the match with Meyer, which seems to be Hester
rather than Taylor DNA.
The short gap between the middle and right Taylor segments is most likely due either to different Taylor lines coming together in the author's grandmother or a small segment coming in beween from his maternal grandfather. So we have to keep an eye out for the clarification of this question.
Third to the right is an older comparison including Masterson, Lepard, Cartwright and two Lowrys, none of whom are included in this group but obviously related to each other and the author.
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompHackett.htm, where any updates will be made. This a group of 17 matches in common with Hackett, a Canadian who has almost entirely Northern Irish ancestry down through the 18th century. As Pyles shares the match with most on chr 16, this segment seems to be Pyle DNA hence suggesting that there is also a Pyle ancestor involved in Hackett's descent, which considering the Tudor and Cromwell Plantation policies in Ireland seems quite possible.
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompKrumrine.htm, where any updates will be made. This is now a group of 16 matches in common with Krumrine and the author.
Krumrine's ancestors likely to connect with the author's pedigrees are: Sarah Whiting b 1756, Lucinda Redmond b 1829 Salem Culpeper Co Va, William F Taylor b about 1831 d there m Susan Leach, Elizabeth Wyckoff b 7 Sep 1794 Va d 26 Sep 1877 m John Thorn, and Nathan Pope b 1739 Isle of Wight Va d 26 Sep 1769 Southampton Va m Patience B Pope but she also has Carter, Wright and Markham ancestors as possible sources of matching DNA. In the case of Taylor and Pope the guesstimated connections seem justified by the matching segments on chr 10 and 12. The other matching segments with her marked in blue may be may be from any of nine sources indicated.
Nottingham shows Nicholas ancestry (His earliest ancestor George W Nicholas b 1798 has been provisionally "guestimated" as being the author's 2nd great uncle of the same name, but the very short matching segments indicate more remote relationship).
As possible direct ancestors, Mink shows Willoughby, Ellis and Smith, and as collateral possibilities he shows Woods, Martin, Davis Johnson and Cherokee
First and second to the right, Watson shows an X chr match, which means the common ancestor goes over a line with a maximum of one male in succession or two or more females in a row. He gives Edwards and Pope as ancestral names, while I have a Pope line over both of my maternal grandparents. But my grandfather, Dr. Eugene Bland, had his Pope ancestor over his father's line, so the match does not go over that quarter. My maternal grandmother's mother was Mary Anna Pope, who got one X chr from her paternal grandmother, Elizabeth Taylor Thruston and the second X chr half from mother's paternal grandmother, Elizabeth Clarkson, and half from her maternal grandmother, Urath Owings Lawrence. Hence Watson seems to be either a descendant of Patrick Henry Pope b 17 Mar 1806 in Louisville Ky or one of the other possible lines mentioned.
Third to the right are
newer matches in this group besides Mills shown below in the Coffman group and King in the
Taylor ancestry with the author and
may also share Brown ancestry.
Fifth to the right The X chr match means
Seventh to the right The X chr match between Crane and the author means The common ancestor is on the maternal side for us both and that there are no two male ancestors in a succession. She has Anderson (a collateral line off my Overtons/Waters) and Hammond ancestors (the Hammond off my Hobbs/Dorsey line fulfills this X requirement).
as seen from Krumrine's CB.
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompCoffman.htm, where any updates will be made. This is a group of 7 matches in common with Coffman including Krumrine, who is discussed above. Peculiar for this group is the longer match on chr 12 which seems to be a match with the author's paternal Hester DNA and not his maternal Taylor DNA. To confirm this, a comparison is made with Scott (the author's Hester cousin, but also seems to share Andrews ancestry over her Scott line) and with Penner in the second picture to the right. There are four Dusenberys of known Andrews/Windsor descent.
Coffman has a second great grandmother by the name of Scott and Taylor as a middle name. She does seem to match Scott and Dusenbery on a few segments but the cM total is just below the threshold for making their match list.
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompCole.htm, where any updates will be made. This is a group of 25 matches in common with Cole and the author. The author does have remote Cole ancestry at G18.
Cole is also included in and new match group including Mitchell and Halstead ancestry.
Borders shows Garland ancestry in MA, Tabb in VA, Smith in Ky, a Talley - Cole marriage in Va c 1792 an Overton collateral line, three lines to Curtis Pendleton b 1763 in Spotsylvania Va m Nancy Wilson.
To the right, Settles shows as possible common ancestral names Warner (?=), Cook (collateral of Buckner), Robinson, Baker, Sutton and Spear (collateral of Smith and Frye) as well as names in common with other matches Farmer, Freeman and Malone.
Second to the right, Deborah Posey Nuding shows Page
ancestry that I have been able to
provisionally guesstimate into a Page branch of Carter/Armistead descent.
Fourth to the right as possible directly or collaterally connecting ancestral lines on the part of the author, Gabbard has Wade, Harwood, Markham, Wilson, Howard, Owens, Stith, Fox, West, 2 x Philips, 2 x Taylor, Mason. Woodward, Spencer, Jamison, Price, Richardson, 4 x Smith, McDonald, Mitchell, Woodson, Winston, Moore. Willis, Watkins, Warren, le Strange, Redmond and Brown ancestry. Of these West is a direct connection at G17 as latest common ancestor, which is rather remote, as is Markham.
as seen by the Sue Davis's CB.
|The graphics of this row have been moved to CompHiatt.htm, where any updates will be made. This is a group of common matches. The Hyatts are believed to be descendants of Capt John Smith, who may have been adopted by the Powhatans, assumed the name Kocoum and sired Pocahontas's daughter, apparently the author's double ancestor. So the matches on chr 16 may be Smith DNA. But Hiatt seems to be her married name and Bass the maiden name. She does show Fleur, Tucker, Harris, Campbell, Connolly, Brown and a few Davis lines||
as seen by the Davis's CB. Carl Irwin Davis has Foote ancestry
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompCartwrightAnnette.htm, where any updates will be made. Cartwright has 52 matches in common with the author (see comparisons above, not in the group are Dollar, Drabold und Doyle, by the way, but in a group with Dondero), of whom most share at least some part of the her long match on chr 4. Lepard and Dondero share this entire long segment which seems to indicate a relationship of about 3rd cousin, but none of the pedigrees in this group reveal any such close relationship.
Nicholas (s. second Screenshot to the right) is the author's 2nd cousin by his maternal grandmother and matches neither Dondero nor Cartwright but does have a match adjacent to the right of the longer match on chr 4, which seems to be a realignment division at the author's mother's conception indicating a nearer relationship over the author's maternal grandfather i. e. his Bland or Harris 1/8th ancestral sectors.
Second to the right is a comparison of 5 in the Cartwright group, where a few color-coded chr bars indicating ethnic distribution have been blended in. Ethnic interpretation of this segment requires "thinking away" which ever upper or lower part of the bar might be the author's paternal half, which already gets into guesswork, but it seems that the upper half is more in accord with the author's paternal ancestry with his Huguenot Gilbert line bringing in a bit of East Med DNA near the left end and West Asian or East Med nearing the right end and his paternal being otherwise North Sea DNA. This presumtion is based on the premise that the Huguenot population had absorbed a lot of the Hussite refugees and were thus more receptive for Calvin's preachings.
A few share matches on chr 11, which has been identified as Andrews DNA and which Nicholas share the author's Andrews ancestry, although there is no indication that either the Bland or Harris sector have any such connection, so these matches get this DNA over entirely different lines than those resulting in the match on chr 4.
Wandell has Priscilla Foote as ancestor, whom I guess to have been a sister of my John Foote b about 1600. I also presume that the match on chr 4 comes from the Foote line, as may the one on chr 9. So it remains to learn whether these two matches come over my maternal grandfather's Pope/Foote line or over my maternal grandmother's Pope/Foote line.
Third to the right we see Cartwright's long match with me also seems to be longer than that of Cannady, and she seems to match Carlisle on 15. But she shows no name in common with my ancestors or collateral lines, although some of hers are also from Kentucky, as mine are.
Dondero has Mitchell, Brown, Smith and Ward ancestors, and White is collateral for me. From her Henry Page White I have "guesstimated" that his mother must have been Celia Page and placed her in the Page pedigree, but this offers little explanation for the long match on chr 4 the same as Cartwright's.
Cartwright has Johnson, Carter, Cook, Moore and Richardson ancestors, the latter is rather remote for me and might show as a very short matching segment. Johnson is a collateral line of my multiple Reade lines and Jamison line, 3 Moore women of no know relationship married into three lines in my maternal grandmother's quarter. She also has Carter and Richardson and ther is Cook on my paternal grandfather's side and collaterally on my maternal grandmother's side
Fourth to the right, Garrett is a collateral line off the author's Buckner (double ove mat. grandmother's grandmother) and Catlett (double over mat. grandfather's pat. grandmother) ancestry, so where matches also match his 2nd cousin, David Nicholas 4th to r, by the former, the common ancestry is likely to be along the former, and where not, then more likely along the latter. A comparison with Nicholas shows that the latter is the case, so the longer matches on chr 4 seem to be Catlett where Garrett matches (possibly including some Buckner that Nicholas did not inherit) while the parts of the segment to the right and left of Garret's match range may be either Barbee, Withers, Duncan of Jennings.
To the far right there is a screenshot including a new match with Vaughn, who is a known descendant of John Smith Prather Pr7-4 and Elizabeth Nuthall, a double collateral line of mine, and hence 6th and 7th cousin. Consequently this longer segment in the middle of the right part of chr 4 seems to be Prather/Nuthall DNA.
David Drabold matches on an Andrews segment that his father does not, meaning his mother is an Andrews descendant.
Fifth to the right, Dondero, Doud, Laur, Masterson and Webber match in various ranges of a rather long segment on chr 4 indicating they are 3rd to 6th cousins, while Nicholas matches on the segment adjacent to it: again a clear indication that the common ancestors are to be found in either the author's Bland or Harris eighth sectors, while Doud has both a Tucker and Williams line that come together at about this level of relationship. For the author these lines come together in his Bland line. Doud also has a Lawrence line in Calvert Co MD.
Eighth to the right, Baker shares Bryant/Gallop/Phillips ancestry with the author and probably Payne ancestry as well. These lines are all in the author's Bland eighth sector.
Ninth to the right, McLain Shares definite albeit remote Prather, Sprigg, Nuthall, Howard, Buckner, Beale, Catlett and Taylor ancestry with the author.
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompBing.htm, where any updates will be made. Bing is a FitzRandolph descendant with a George Smith branch b 1610 in England.
Waggonner shows Smith and Moore ancestry
Third to the right, Klein shares 27 cM DNA with Donachie but only 24 cM with her father, Sprigg, while both share Sprigg and Fontaine ancestry with the author. So he also shares ancestry with her mother.
Second to the right, the name Posey shows up in a few collateral lines of the author's pedigrees, but the only place where the likelyhood of common DNA has been found yet presumes her Page ancestry was in this collateral Carter/Armistead/page line.
Sixth to the right,
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompSlack.htm, where any updates will be made. Slack has two New England Andrews and one Taylor line while English born Flack also has two Yorkshire Taylor lines as well as a Woodward line rather parallel to the author's and two Harris lines that may have remote connection with the author's. While Drabold has some old NE lines and 19th century English immigrants.
|The graphics of this row have been moved to CompDonachie.htm, where any updates will be made.
I share numerous distant ancestors with Donachie: we are double 7th cousins over Sprigg and Nutall,
8th to 10th cousins over Mariarte, Beall, Moore, Dorsey, Howard, Hobbs, and probably
5 fold 10th cousins over Taylor,
4th cousins over Aaron Fontaine and Barbara Overton Terrell
her throckmortons may be a collateral line of my Buckners,
as might her Robinson of my Armisteads,
her Beverleys collateral over my Whitings. And her Annis Pope hailed from
Devon near Bristol
where my Nathaniel Pope’s ancestors came from. So it is not surprizing to find 10 rather
short matching segments.
She does not share the characteristic Taylor segment near the break on chr 12, but Deshrage (actually a sample from Sears, not Deshrage) does, with whom she does seem to share a different very short as well as with Dunkin on 12. She also seems to match Dollar on 1 and slightly overlap on 10, who in turn seems to overlap with Dondero on 10, who seems to match Donachie on 3.
Dunkin seems to match
Dollar on 16, Dondero on 11 and Donachie on 5 - a range that is longer
with both Barrus testees as shown below.
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompTyeDavid.htm, where any updates will be made. Tye shares 67 cM of DNA and 30 matches with the author as well as a triple Terrell and one Gascoigne on the Mayes collateral descent, as do of said matches Nicholas and Hayes (author's maternal grandmother's quarter sector while Hayes also shares Mason ancestry with the author). While Jackowiak (in the author's paternal grandmother's maternal eighth sector), as is Jones (author's paternal grandfather's paternal grandfather's sixteenth sector)
Multiple common ancestors with David Paul Tye can be positively identified: Richmond Terrell and Mary Elizabeth Waters as well as his Harrisons and Carys. Then I see a Montague, which I have a little farther back, and he definitely has my Taylors. I suspect his Hubbs of connecting with my Hobbs before leaving England. Further there is Keen which I have with my Jennings line.
I believe the segments you have in common with David Paul Tye are from Taylor/Harrison and that the part outside your match range is a regroup with Terrell or Hobbs/Hubbs.
Harold Bruce Tanner shows only the names Tanner and Brown, so the latter also has to be considered as a source for the common ancestor(s).
First to the right, McGee's closest ancestry in common with the author is on the latter's maternal Bland/Harris/Jamison/Huss line, but his name is a variant of McKay or MacKey, ancestry shared by Nicholas and Hayes as well.
Second to the right, Harris's closest ancestry in common with the author is the author's paternal Hester/Mitchell/. Cooper Witter shares one of Tye's Terrell descents and the author's Basye/Gascoigne line and possibly Baker, Elliott and other lines.
Fifth to the right, the longer range on chr16 where Crandall matches the author and adjacent to ther left of the other match is also where Marcia Huff (sub threshhold for inclusion in this match group) matches the author and likely to be from a Gascoigne/Mayes/Burch/Huff descent line.
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompWallace.htm, where any updates will be made.
To the right a comparison of the Wallaces with two Whites and Taylor. Mike Wallace has a double White line. This Scottish name is likely to have some relationship to Clan Gunn.
Second to the right, we hav Rice in this comparison, who has Wilson and Drury among her ancestors as well as Davis, which may be a collateral line by my Washington cousins. But her Allison, Roberts and Lindsey lines are also likely to connection with Clan Gunn somewhere back around 1500 AD.
a match on chromosome 5 together with William H Wallace and James Edward Wallace and fairly closely with Jennifer Marie Isbell, while there are overlapping matches Harold Bruce Tanner and David Paul Tye where they match me partly outside the range we have in common.
Possible connection Brown, Moore, Taylor
Jennifer Isbell shows a Roland Taylor walker after a long line of Walkers rather inexplicably, but my Taylor pedigree shows the marriage of a Taylor daughter into the Walkers. But she also shows Nichols, which might be my Nicholas line. And there is a Randall, Henderson and a Robinson here which I also have in my Nicholas quarter. She also has a Moore line, a Harris, Harrison and Brown, all rather remote.
Third to the right, Morgan is likely to be Welsh but shows no details of ancestry.
Fourth to the right, Martha Carter Kirby is of known Carter, Rose and in particular Nicholas, Cary and Wilson descent, so the match on chr 5 may be Wilson or Robinson for both of us although she may have it over Rose. The fact that the Wallaces match here seems to exclude this segment from our Nicholas/Carter/Ludlow ancestors.
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompStoffaJeff.htm, where any updates will be made. This is a group of 9 matches in common with Jeff Stoffa. The match on chr 6 with only his mother, Barbara, is a segment identified as Pyle DNA maternally for the author, .
As discussed elsewhere on this site, there seems to be a superimposure of paternal and maternal DNA matches on chr 12. The author's maternal grandmother had 4 lines of descent from Thomas Taylor b 1572 in Hadleigh Suffolk and Margaret Swinderby b 1578 in Copenhagen, while his direct male line immigrants to PA, James/Jacob/John Hester and Abigail Wright. While the Taylor matches falls on three distinct short segments on chr 12 with clear separation between them, then matches that can be narrowed down to being over the author's Hester, Wright, Gilbert or Christian lines of descent fall on a segment that overlaps both the middle and right Taylor segment on both sides over a continuous length. This range seems to be entirely North Sea DNA on both sides of the author's family.
In this group Dietrich definitely matches on the author's paternal DNA, while Wawczak (second to the right) with a Taylor ancestor definitely matches on the middle Taylor segment, her left match on chr 12 is exactly on a segment that is Baltic DNA on one side of the author's family and East European on the other. This is just to the left of the left Taylor Segment, which is East European here.
Most in this group share the match on chr 20 which is clearly North Sea DNA on both sides of the author's family. So finding the common ancestors responsible for this DNA donation will be an interesting task.
Fisher, Dietrich, Richardson and Barbara Stoffa match variously on segments on chr 1 and 6, where the author also matches Pyles, who seems to share the author's Pyle descent, while Jeff Stoffa's match on chr 14 is just to the left of the one with Pyles. These (near) matches are a bit too few to assume that these segments are indeed on the author's maternal grandmother's registered Pyles pedigree line, but reason enough to expect to find common ancestry here.
Menzies probably matches the author in his maternal grandfather's maternal grandmother's 1/16th sector which is a Jamison - Huss marriage. The author's paternal side here along the entire range marked as Jamison/Huss is probably all North Sea DNA, so the Jamison/Huss side varies between North Sea on the left through an exotic mix of Baltic, East European and East Mediterranean back to North Sea again, where the Jamison part as a sept of Clan Gunn would be North Sea and the other presumably Huss DNA. Since the maternal Jamison line before this was Frye and Moravian Church the Huss family with Sill and Walter lines may be presumed to have been largely of the same heritage, hence Hussites, although there is a Woodward branch here that was evidently Quaker.
Third to the right, Barabara Stoffa shares a group of 11 matches in common with the author including 7 of those in the former group plus 4 more.
Fourth to the right, several ethnic distribution bars have been superimposed below the displays of chr 1, 3 5, 7, 10, 12, 15, 18 and 20 on the screenshot second to the right to demostrate the above ethnic discussions.
|The graphics of this row have been moved to CompMcConnell.htm, where any updates will be made.
The five matches on chromosome 9 are apparently McConnell DNA and hence on my paternal side
Longacre, McEvoy, Rosa nor Turner show this name. The X chr match with McConnell
means that this at least is
not from my paternal Grandmother McConnell nor via his McConnell line,
but rather on both parts from a maternal
line with no two male ancestors in seccession.
The match on chr 9 is evidently all they have in common and not enough to show as mutual matches.
To the right, the match with Cooper Witter on chr 11 has been identified above as Andrews DNA, while Coalson matches on chr 1 that has been identified as being from my maternal grandfather's maternal grandmother, Martha Ann Jamison.
Second to the right, Ball shows Bray, Ellis, Brooks, Withers as well as Powhatan descent discussed above.
Third to the right Stiefel shows Howard, Dorsey, Calvert Warren, Taylor, Reade, McKay, McCarty, MacKey, Wilson, Brooke, Smith, Bruce, Wells, Andrews, Lawrence, Baker, Eyre, Bryant and West ancestors.
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompBall.htm, where any updates will be made. This is a group of nine common matches of Charles McConnell and the author, which might be expected to fall within the sector of the ancestors of the author's paternal grandmother, who was Elena McConnell. A few of the author's ethnic distribution bars have been blended in after moving the comparison bars, but interpretation requires consideration that both the authors paternal and maternal are displayed across the breadth of these bars, while the matching segment is generally either the one or the other half. The color legend is at the right. The Iberian shading is generally not Spanish Iberian but Pictish Iberian, as the author has many Scottish ancestor, but only one Spanish ancestor at G16 and this line is partly East Mediterranean.
But Ball has a Sarah Davis b 28 May 1713 in Radnor Chester Co PA, obviously near the PA seat of the Pyle family at this time. Although this is also not very far away from the McConnell seat in Cumberland Co PA either, But McConnell's male line was in Canada and before that in Ireland and the number of Bryan(t) descendants of Irish descent in this group makes such a connection for him there seem more likely.
Furthermore, Ball shows double Potawomack and double Withers as well as double Beverley and quadruple Taylor ancestry with about 10 generations back to common ancestors (in some cases "guesstimated"), not to mention names like Bray and Howard that promise common ancestry at G14 to 16 as well as Grisgby and Ballard that crop up collaterally in various of the author's pedigrees. In short, assigning the specific matching DNA segments to certain ancestors is a task that requires additional pedigrees of other test persons in this group that extend equally far but do not include all the same common ancestors.
Lutz seems to share Foster and possibly Johnson ancestry with Ball, while she definitely shares Terrell ancestry with the author, and there is the possibility that her Stith ancestry connects with the author's Cary line about one or two generations earlier, and her Anderson line with the author's Overton line, while the names Wright, Wilson, Robinson, Andrews, Brereton, Markham, Hale and Mainwaring offer other possibilities in the range G9 to G18 and the names Baker, Jordan, Watson, Owen, Green, Lewis, Watkins, Jones and Trent also occur in various of the author's collateral lines of the author's pedigrees.
Stiefel has Baker ancestry that could connect with Lutz's Baker line a generation before the Stith marriage that leads to Cary for the latter. But she also descends from John Withers, son of James Withers and Elizabeth Keene, (both grandmothers of the former's wife, Hannah Routt, were Courtneys ?= Courtenay, to which the author has a registered pedigree) as well as Howard and Dorsey. Furthermore, she has a double Bryant line and a West line as well as Warren and Paine over Massachusettes immigrants and McKay (= Clan Gunn) ancestry in MD (possible Prather-McKay connection)
Since both Stiefel and Ball share Withers ancestry with me as well as a matching segment on chr 5, this segment can be provisionally identified as Withers DNA. So Marcovitz, Vanoy and Coalson must also be Withers descendants.
second and third to the right, Titus shares seven other matches with the author in distant multiple common ancestry. The only bell-ringer in his pedigree is McCarty, which I have as a collateral off my double Pope line. three of the others mention Withers ancestry, which is not far off one of my Pope lines. Jett is a collateral line off my double Duncan/Gallop/Bryant/Potawomack/Powhatan line, while Jett, Burgess, Vanoy and Finney show the matching segment on chr 5 (10) that I share with other Pocahontas descendants like Marlowe. And there are some Andrews and Taylor segments showing up.
William Griffith match group.
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompAlexander.htm, where any updates will be made. Alexander shares 38.69 cM of DNA and 11 matches with the author. Her paternal line is Norwegian explaining her match with with Myhrvold, but she has maternal Belgian de Vlees line off that branch, while the author's direct male line seems to have come from East Frisia, which received a mass infusion of Mennonite refugees from the Antwerp area between 1530 and 1600. So Flemish ancestry seems to play a role here.
The more characteristic match for the group is on chr 20 and the K36 ED display shows it as either North Sea or North Atlantic and there may be some West Caucasian and Pictish at the right end or adjacent to the right end while the K15 ED display shws it as North Sea or Atlantic with a darkening in the lower part that may be Baltic or West Med. McConnell is shown as an ancestral name for Lori. The matching segments for Alexander are all very short indicating distant and possibly multiple common ancestry. For all of these matches the common ancestry has been quite a mystery. But it seems likely that Alexander may share other ancestors with some of the matches in this group that she does not share with the author and vice versa.
The CB display has been rearranged to accomodate the addition of the author's Eurogenes K15 ethnic distribution display, the color code legend is the same as for the first CB comparison to the right.
Not sharing this characteristic segment on chr 20 is Harvey nee Brooks who has Freeman ancestry and hence also very probably with Potts/Halstead maternal line, as she matches Steven Freeman who does share the latter descent. The author has two Willoughby and one Mitchell descent from the Halsteads. Her match with the author on chr 10 is a mixture of East Med and East Europe which sounds like a relation on either a Huss or Frye line, while her match on chr 1 is in the range there identified as Huss DNA and Jeremy Alexander's matches to the right and left of this are on the Jamison segments identified as Clan Gunn DNA.
Nor does Colson match on chr 20, but she has Randle ancestry that might be Randall. The match with Colson nee Holmes on chr 1 ranges from what might be West Asian to East Med and then either West Med or North Sea and she shares another there with Jeremy Alexander there that is either East European or NS, while her match on chr 7 is more likely East Med but could be EE or partly NS. Her match on chr 11 is in within a NS range but may have a touch of West Asian on the left side. On chr 12 we see her in the middle of an EE range that includes two of the Alexanders and Harvey on the right edge. The latter is one of the three typical Taylor segments, while the former is where the Minor brothers match the author and are 5th Frye cousins of the author. Her match with the author on chr 15 offer another East Med or EE alternative, while the one on chr 16is either EE or Atlantic.
First to the right, the CB display has also been rearranged to accomodate the addition of the author's Eurogenes K15
ethnic distribution display above the chromosome as well as a few from the K36 below it. K36 differentiates better
but has an ambiguous color code,
which can be found at the top right of this page next to the match list. These ED displays require the
counterpart displays for the respective matches of this group, because
the results for the respective maternal and paternal chromosomes are put together side by side in the display and
North Sea DNA seem to have priority for the top no matter whether maternal or paternal, but an ethnic pattern of
East European and East Mediterranean does seem to play a major role for many of the matching segments as well as some Pictish DNA.
As discussed in the row above the match on chr 6 with McConnell is possible Howard DNA and Stevens shows Howard ancestry.
Second to the right, Rayburn shares quite a bit of DNA with the author: the match on chr 11 has been established elsewhere on this page as Andrews DNA. And both Lori A and Rayburn share one typical segment of Taylor DNA onchr 12, while Stevens shares another.
Myhrvold is Norwegian, so the matches with him may involve a settler of New Sweden, whose descendants may have moved to Pennsylvania. But as shown in the lowest rows, the match with him on chr 22 is presumed to have been inherited by the author over Margaret Swinderby born 1578 in Copenhagen, although the author's Christopher Randall and/or his wife Johanna widow Norman may have been from New Sweden too.
|The graphics of this row have been moved to CompReynoldsRonnie.htm, where any updates will be made.
The blue stripe on 5 is a relationship on my paternal grandmother's
mother's line, workman. Ronnie Reynolds is a double
descendant of John
Workman, brother of James
Workman Wo6. He also has a
Lawrence line that has not been commected
with mine yet, but such a connection might explain the matches on generally associated
with Taylor or Clan Gunn, if his Lawrence ancestor was a Sibling of my Urath Owings Lawrence.
So the Reynolds matches not identified
as Taylor DNA may be Workman, Wyckoff, Smith or Andries DNA,
and in case of the latter Lawrence connection Lawrence, Dorsey,
Owings, Randall, Hobbs, Cumming, Hammond etc. DNA.
The adjacent and elsewhere overlapping matches between Reynolds and Nicholson show an interesting an interesting realignment phenomenon that will be clarified when Nicholson's line of descent is known.
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompBrooks.htm, where any updates will be made. Although the match with Brooks on chr 5 is along a different range than the other two matching pairs, all 5 share a short match on 2 (possibly Terrill) and the short match on 21 and 12 indicate that a common ancestor of all 6 of us is involved.
match to the right of the break on 12 has been identified elswhere as
DNA inheritance from the martyr, Rowland Taylor.
Hence anyone matching both of us on any gene is likely to have an ancestor along one of these four lines of descent or earlier.
To the right is another comparison with Berryman, Bittner, Boles and Boucher with Straub, a known Taylor and Terrell descendant. Berryman has both the characteristic match on chr 12 for Taylor and on chr 22 for Swinderby while some of his other matches with my that do not fall under Terrell and Taylor seem attributable to my Berryman line, which none of the others seem to share.
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompBrooksWanda.htm, where any updates will be made. Although the match with Brooks on chr 5 is along a different range than the other two matching pairs, she does seem to share a short match with Nicholson on 1, who seems to share a different short match on one with Barrus. and she seems to share a short match with both Witter and Barrus on two, as do Reynolds and Witter (see above) on 15. But I have established four lines of descent in common with Witter on my maternal side and common Workman ancestors with Reynolds on my paternal side, so the short "match" between them on 15 seems to be a Coincidence of one being in this range paternally and the other there maternally without an actual match of genes.
To the right we have four schreenshots taken from Witter's perspective clarifying which matches we have in common. The 2 Bakers do not occur in her list although her father was of a line that matches the Y DNA of the Bakers.
Witter, Tye, Straub and Boles are all known Terrell descendants.
|The graphics of this row have been moved to CompReynolds_.htm, where any updates will be made.
As noted above Reynolds is a double cousin over my Workman line.
But the short match range to the right of the break incicate a descent from the martyr, Rowland Taylor, as linked to
elsewhere on this page.
A group of five of us seem to match on chr 2.
|The graphics of this row have been moved to CompStraub.htm, where any updates will be made.
We have two matches on chromosome 5 Cecil Carolyn Straub, and another
short one on chromosome 2. the first one on 5
decks by and large those
with Virginia Ann Rice, George Robert Nichols and Joyce Morgan, while the
second one on 5 that of
Jane Masterson on five, with whom I have matches
with several others on chromosome 4. I think we have cases of gene
from at least three on my ancestors here and that we may have two or three
For different matches on chromosome 5 Straub has the same pedigree as the multiple common ancestors with David Paul Tye. Positively identified: Richmond Terrell and Mary Elizabeth Waters as well as his Harrisons and Carys. Then Montague, which I have a little farther back, and Taylor. As seen above with Witter, there seem to be multiple Terrill/Taylor possibilities in this match range. Straub's Hubbs is possibly my Hobbs before leaving England. Witter also shows two Hubbs descents
Furthermore, there is Keen which I have with my Jennings line and in other collateral lines.
The match with Masterson in two of Cecil's three match ranges along 5 leads me to suspect that as many as three ancestors may be represented by these three ranges.
To the right we have feed-back from Witter showing much longer overlapping matches with Straub and Boles on chr 5 indicating that the thre are more closely related to each other than to me on the first, then coparing Rice, Day and Morgan with the two of us, and comparing Wallace, Nichols, Williams and Shortridge with us.
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompBruegel.htm, where any updates will be made. Bruegel shows only Mitchell as a name in common with my ancestors. This appears as my paternal grandfather's mother's maiden Name. So the longer match (indicating a closer relationship) on chr 5 may be attributed to this line. If the others with a match on 5 all match each other then this would be where to look for common ancestors.
To the right Burke shows Smith but otherwise only Virginia and Kentucky names that have geography in common
Second to the right we see a group of five common matches plus Picken's DNA match, Dorsey.
Pickens has both Wyatt and Wyckoff
ancestors, which are relatively remote lines for me lying respectively
in my maternal grandmother's maternal grandmother's
sector over the Brown/Lawrence/Dorsey/Wyatt maternal
and in his paternal grandmother's maternal line, so the one is my maternal and the other my
Dorsey shows no ancestry, but is presumably of the same Maryland family as the author,
and it can be presumed that the total
matching DNA between Dorey and the author is there but just below
the threshhold for showing up in his match list.
Her DNA matches the segments of the others
author's in so many places and so exactly that it seems she descends from the same Wyatt-Dorsey
marriage as the author, while Pickens seems to descend
from Sarah Wyatt's brother, Samuel. Person,
Harris and McKeegan are likely to descend from either of the two.
Fourth to the right
four known Wyatt descendants and Person are compared Nicholas is the author's second cousin and shares all
but Pickens as a common match.
Where Bolin, Wyatt and Pickens fit in with their Wyatt descents had been
"guesstimated" as Wy11-1 Samuel Wyatt. Pickens also share Wyckoff ancestry which is
on the author's
paternal side while Nicholas is in the author's maternal grandmother's quarter and seems to
all the other segments in the course of 10 chro realingments, so she just falls below his 20 cM
Bolin, however, has an entirely different Griffith-Willoughby marriage in his ancestry about 3 generations earlier than the author. While the Welsh patronymics make a common ancestry less likely, Willoughby is such a singular name that common ancestry between G6 and G12 seems very likely. While Nicholas does share a few of the author's more remote Willoughby descents, the more immediate ones (G8 and G9 and G11) are the author's paternal and maternal grandfather's respective paternal eighth sectors.
The matches on chr 10 with Crandall seem to be Wade DNA. All matches with Shinvar must be Fontaine DNA
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompMinor.htm", where any updates will be made. Donachie and Shinvar are known Fontaine descendants, but obviously the later Wade segment on Fontaine seems to have replaced the Fontaine DNA on chr 5 for the US Fontaines.
Minor shares my paternal Kenton/Owens as well as my maternal Frye line. Crandall and Howle must be too. Crandall shows Wade (which I have off maternally my Fontaine line), Allen, Stephenson (both collateral lines off my double Pope/Foote/Berryman/Newton/Tucker line), Randall of Anne Arundel Co MD and West. The longer matching and shorter segments on chr 10 are more likely to be from the nearer Wade line, which is accord with Donachie branching off my Fontaine line after Wade DNA comes into it. so I am inclined to believe she also has a descent from the Thomas Prather/Matilda Fontaine marriage. That would include a Sprigg descent, which Donachie also has, so the shorter matches on 1 could be Sprigg DNA, while the Howle match on 10 seems to make this Wade or possibly Boursiquot DNA.
On the other hand the triple Fontaine descent of Shinvar goes back 10 generations to the common ancestor, and my match on chr 17 with both her and Howle - presuming my relation with her is on my mother's side - is more likely from an earlier Fontaine marriage than Aaron Fontaine/Barbara Terrell. p>The Minor brothers share a double descent on my paternal grandfather's quarter from Kenton/Owens and one on my maternal grandfather's side from William Woodson and Leah Frye and I suspect there are other collateral descents from their Minor line, since this name occurs in earlier collateral lines of my maternal grandmother's Overton line.
To the right, Stanley reports a group of 12 matches including Alexander, Douglas, Eaton, Fletcher, MacDonald, Minor, Smith, Stall, Terry, and Thomas. but shows no ancestral names.
Eaton seems to show the names of his matches rather than ancestors, but as discussed elsewhere on this page he matches another descendant of Pochahontas and as well as descendant of Peregrine Smith the son of Capt John Smith. This has led to the belief that John Smith was adopted into the Powhatan Federation as Chief Kokoum, who married Pocahontas and had a daughter by her, from whom the author seems to descend. The English branch of these Smiths later emigrated to America and a great granddaughter married into the Hyatt family resulting in my Hyatt match.
Smith shows Bryant, Harris, Johnson, Robinson, Williams and Wright.
Elinor Bryant, my ancestor, married secong John I Owens, an elder brother of my ancestor along the paternal line
shared by the Minor brothers above. The longer match to the left on chr 12 shared with
the Minor brothers is
not to be confused with the shorter one there identified with Taylor descent,
which I have 4 times from
my maternal grandmother. This is more likely a paternal match of mine and hence Griffith/willoughby/Owens/.
Eaton also shows a double Moore descent.
Second to the right, Thomas, Terry and Stall show a match on chr 12 to the left of the break that is typical for some Taylor descendants while Stall, Smith and Stanley show the short match to the right of the break typical for other Taylor descendants.
Fifth and sixth to the right, Stanley, Alexander and Douglas show the match on chr 12 typical for Taylor descendants. The match on chr 9 with Stanley is situated adjacently to the left of a long match with Flack, which is believed to be the author's maternal DNA and to come from some Yorkshire line like Armistead, Ellis or Beverley. It is also situated adjacently to the right of a segment shared with Freeman, who may be related to the author over his second Hester line.
as seen by Stanley's CB
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompGriffith.htm, where any updates will be made. Griffith shares 18 matches with the author. He share G7 common Griffith and Sarah Willoughby as well as the latter's Owens, Miller and Kenton ancestry with the author. The long DNA match on chr 1 which can be considered DNA from the closest common ancestor Evan Griffith at G7 b 23 Dec 1729 in Wales. This line goes back to Jeremiah Owens, which is most likely O'Guin's Owens of Kentucky line too. The maternal line off the owens is Kenton and from there to Miller of Fauquier Co. Va, which corresponds to the short matching Miller segments. This is a range that is of mixed ethnic origin but largely similar on both sides of the author's with some North Sea DNA at both end while the middle is Eastern European middle-left then going right some East Mediterranean then Atlantic before changing back to NS again. The appearance of some NS together with Atlantic i.e. British/Celtic can be attributed to the Norman domination in Wales beginning 1100 or with Evan's wife at the latest, but the EE and East Med indicates that some Hussites or Huguenots came into the family after 1500. The short DNA match on chr 5 is shared by many matches of Huguenot or Hussite descent, as is discussed elsewhere on this page in many places.
I have 3 known lines of common ancestors with the Minor brothers, Owens/Kenton/Miller and Frye.
The short match segment to the right of the break on chr 12 with Cox, Stevens and O'Guin (?= Clan Gunn) is a range, where over half a dozen known Taylor descendants and many others match me, so I believe this indicates a descent from the martyr, Rowland Taylor
To the right, Anderson, Wood and I are a group of three common matches with a match on chr 5 the same range as the ones I have with the Minor brothers, which hardly overlap each other here. The latter matches may be paternal for me over Hester/Griffith/ Willoughby/Owens/Kenton and maternal for the former hence not the same DNA. Anderson may be a collateral line off Overton. But my only Wood is here.
Third to the right, O'Guin mentions Owens ancestry without showing the exact descent, but that seems to fit well with the make-up of this group of matches. Judging from the ancestral names shown without pedigree connection, Dial shares Workman and Wyckoff ancestry with the author, while Kirby shares Carter/Ludlow ancestry.
It seems likely that many of those in the group share ancestors with each other that the author does not share, while they do not all share all of the author's ancestry mentioned here. However the sum of DNA shared from these multiple ancestors is enough to get over the threshold for getting on each other's lists. As for the latter which includes a Windsor and Andrews line, many in the group evidence Andrews DNA. The Andrews DNA segments also seem in part to predate the appearance of the family in Suffolk after Robert the Bruce murdered the Black and the Red Comyn for their Anglophile leanings and lead in the direction of the Duncans.
Fourth to the right, the Minor borthers are also Kenton descendants.
Fifth to the right,
|The graphics of this row have been moved to CompPerson.htm, where any updates will be made. None of these match along the same range of chr 5, but all but Person match along the short range on 12 that seems to be Taylor DNA (see above and below). While Person seems to match all but Davis on 10. And Davis seems to match Boucher on 16, and Boucher seems to match Person on 6 and Berryman on 7.|
|The graphics of this row have been moved to CompRayburn.htm, where any updates will be made. Although Rayburn does not share the short match segment to the right of the break on chr 12 with Cox, Stevens and O'Guin is a range, where over half a dozen known Taylor descendants and many others match me, she does share the short match range on chr 22 with a dozen others I believe to be descendants of Andrew Swinderby. So I also believe this indicates a descent from the martyr, Rowland Taylor.|
|The graphics of this row have been moved to CompIsbell.htm, where any updates will be made. Although Isbell does not share the short match segment to the right of the break on chr 12 with Haggerty, Wallace, Tye and Reynolds, this is a range, which indicates a descent from the martyr, Rowland Taylor , she does overlap with the other match ranges on chr 5.|
|The graphics of this row have been moved to CompTaylorRowland.htm, where any updates will be made.
The short match on chr 5 indicates a common ancestor for all six of us,
unless some are on my maternal chr 5
while the others are on my paternal chr 5.
The short match with Bowen and Stevens on chr 12 indicates a descent from the martyr Rowland Taylor.
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompMaioriello.htm, where any updates will be made. Although my longer matches on chr 6 with Atkins, Hamilton, Maioriello, O'Guin and Stevens do not match each other, there are shorter matches between the first two and the latter on 6, as well as a match between two on seven and four of them on 12 as well as two on 16.
The shortness of these matches may mean a more distant common ancestor, if not just a quirk of more recent gene regrouping.
I need feedback on whether or not these five all match each other or just some of the others.
To the right a recent match with Donachie who recognizes Hamilton as a known Fontaine descendant. Donachie is a born Sprigg and shares numerous lines of descent with me, the nearest being Fontaine.
Farther to the right Nay shows names indicating possible matches along the following lines: Beverley, Withers, Mitchell, Jennings, Payne, Robinson, Tucker, Waters, Webb, Wilson, Williams, Wright and/or Howard, and herr Foley and Anderson lines may connect with my Bland/Duncan/Gallop/Bryant/Arroyah/Wahanganoche/Powhatan line.
A George Williams married my double 9th great aunt, Jean/Jane Pope b 1699/1715 d Apr 1732 in Overwarton Parish Va, and both had numerous progeny.
Third to the right, Shaw shares the matches two common matches are Walter Alcorn and
Sarah Anne Atkins
with the author.
While the author seems to have one segment in common with Pate chr 11 and one on
chr 10 which overlaps a
with Shaw's match with him, the latter seems to be near the threshold of 1 cM+, so my
match with her
is about 0,9 cM.
Sixth to the right, Mason shares Jennings and Terrell and possibly Cary ancestry with the author, while her Shelton, Mason, Taylor, Harris and Courtney ancestry may involve other connections. Adkins Bavousett Cutler Howard Mason Walter Wiggins
seen from the author's perspective
|The graphics of this row have been moved to CompAtkins.htm, where any updates will be made.
This is a group of 5 tests that match Wendy Miller and me including
Sarah Ann Burns Atkins, Kenneth Elliott, R.H.,
Rosemary Lane, Elizabeth A Pattey and Jerry Schnarr.
Of these only Atkins has posted a Gedcom pedigree, but there are
no common ancestors listed in it,
although there are several names that show up in collateral branches of my ancestry
or show up as
ancestors of other matches of mine or both. In particular her King line in Virginia has maternal Brent,
Burgess and Pratt lines: names which a number my matches or collateral lines have.
The rather long and more or less coinciding matches on chr 6 seem to be from a closer ancestor or a couple.
But I cannot say which yet. I am, however, inclined to believe that this match is on my paternal side of
the family and
that Owens may be the line.
|The graphics of this row have been moved to WilliamDonaldsonSprigg.htm where any text updates will be made.
Although the matches on 6 are very small except for Robert Minor, the matches on the other chromosomes
like 7 and 12 as well as 5 show there are several distant common ancestors involved.
The fact that I have
establised 3 separate common lines with Forrest Minor, the brother of
Robert, supports this. On the one hand
they share the author's Frye descent, a Moravian Church family that was near Zurich around 1650
but moved to
Altheim Alsace before emigrating to Pennsylvania
The George Williams who married Jean/Jane Pope b 1699/1715 d Apr 1732 in Overwarton Parish Va and had numerous progeny with her is a likely source for some of these matches.
To the right Sprigg, his daughter and I share Sprigg, Taylor, Hobbs, Terrell and Fontaine ancestry as ninefold 4th to 7th cousins, where they have 2 Taylor lines and I have 4. He also has a Mary Adkins as ancestor, which sounds like a variant of Atkins in the row just above, so a sister of one of his Sprigg ancestor may have married an Atkins and explain that match.
as seen from author's CB
|The graphics of this row have been moved to CompArnett.htm, where any updates will be made.
Arnett shares 35,61 cM of DNA and 30 matches with the author and probably has Thompson ancestry.
Daniels has a double Massachusettes Cary descent from the same Bristol family as the author's double Virginia Cary line, as well as Thurtons believed to be related to the author's Thrustons. These lines merge with Scottish Spencers, while the author's double Jennings line is believed to originat from a Jenkins - Spencer marriage. Both the author and Daniels have rather remote Andrews ancestors of unknown relationship, and both have Beal ancestors. Webb
Daniels also shows a
Terrill/Tirrell line and a Taylor, a Stratton,
a Brooks, a Greene, a Gore, a Wright, a Fox, double Richardson, double Read,
a Pope immigrant to MA or CT.
In short the author's common ancestors with Daniels predate 1600 but are likely to prove
very multiple and manyfold lines before this time.
as seen from Arnett's CB
|The graphics of this row have been moved to CompBrock.htm, where any updates will be made.
A match of 15 segments on chromosome 7 with Joseph Brock, which is
matched along 12 by Gary Eugene Graybeal and 11
by John T Armstrong.
Joseph seems to have several German ancestors including Seiber while I have very very few in the last 25 generations.
Gary Eugene Graybeal shows only names originating in the area between Switzerland and the Palatinate, where my only Swiss/German ancestors come from. The only ancestors I have from this area in the last 10 generations are along the line of my maternal grandfather Bland/Harris/Jamison/Frye. This family moved down the Rhine from Switzerland to Alsace and moved to Pennsylvania after Louis XIV revoked the Edict of Nante. So it seems rather certain that any common ancestors are to be found along this line.
Alternatively my paternal line has Gilbert, Hugenots who left France for Sinsheim in the Platinate after the close of the 30 Years War and are mostly still located in this area today, while my line moved to Pennsylvania in the next generation.
John T Armstrong shows a few German ancestors too, in particular, a George Frye, who may fit into my Frye pedigree and an Anna Pope who may be a heretofore unnamed daughter of my Nathaniel Pope III and Jane Browne. I see many names in his list like Bryant. The Jean/Jane Pope b 1699/1715 d Apr 1732 in Overwarton Parish Va who married George Williams may be the source of some matching segments. But I believe it is this German line of mine that connects the four of us on chromosome 7 and any Pope/Browne DNA would be some other range of match with Armstrong.
The only name in common with Emmit Calvin Alexander is Howard, which is nearly my most maternal line over Dorsey and also rather distant. This is a completely different string of segments and not likely to implay relationship to the other three, unless one of you has a longer string in common covering both ranges. As Joseph has no match with Mr. Alexander, I presume that - if the connection is not over Gilbert - there was a regrouping of this Nicholas/Pope/Brown/Lawrence/Dorsey/Howard DNA in my mother with that of Bland/Harris/Jamison/Frye
Waren has Cummings and Taylor among his ancestors.
Alexander shows only Howard as a name in common with my ancestors. And all three names occur among my maternal grandmother's maternal grndmother's mother's ancestors, who were all in Maryland and northern Virginia.
Armstrong shows Newton, Heinrich Frey/Anna Levering, Wilson, Boyse(=?Bayse), Mitchell, Dorsey, Williams, Carter, Massey, Smith, Wright, Pope, Harris and Bryant/Briand as names for possible common ancestors with me and Alexanders as well The geographical closeness of his Anne Pope to my Nathaniel Pope and the name John Washington Wright make me ask if she was the niece of the latter.
To the right Borroughs,B-W, Callison and Campbell show no names, but Burks shows Anderson (many matches showing that and I have
collateral line over my Mother Bland/Duncan/Gallop/Bryant/Arroyah/Wahanganoche leading to them
as well as over her Nicholas/
which also seems to fit with Callison),
Williams for me
is not far off this line, Thornton is a collateral line among my maternal grandmother's ancestors, as is Clark,
and Taylor appears
4 times among her ancestors.
To the right Clara Janis Smith and I share a group of matches with Bryan, Burroughs, Dale Dondero, Fanshaw, Haddow, Harris, Ponton, the 3 Smotherman sisters, and Diane H surtees. Nellie Irene Reif also shares the match with Fanshaw but not with the others or Smith, or if so then sub threshhold. Harris shows Nuttall and Wilson ancestors; the former of which I have off my Prather line, and the latter of which I have as direct ancestors off my Nicholas/Cary/Wilson line and collaterally off my Harris/Jamison/Frye line.
The grouping of segments indicates that Smith and I share some common ancestors with the Smothermans and Surtees and other common ancestors with the others. Smith also has a Match by the unique name of Sisson, while I have a double maternal line of descent from the marriage of Nathaniel Pope and Mary Sisson, who remarried 4 times after his death and had issue.
The match range with the Smothermans on chr 2 tagged Smith has been identified due to the Hyatt/Smith line as DNA from Capt John Smith for some of my matches of Hyatt descent, while longer matches here extending to both sides are indicated by other matches to have to with my descent from the merchant or Baltimore of the same name b in the 1750 in Northern Ireland. As the former is in my maternal grandfather's quarter and the latter in my maternal grandmother's, I cannot have inherited this from both. While this weakens the evidence supporting the notion that the first child of Pocahontas was by Capt John Smith, it does give rise to the theory that the merchant John Smith was a descendant of Capt John Smith.
Eighth to the right, The matches on chr 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 10,
11, 12, 13,, 15, and 16 may all be Harris DNA.
James Edwin Harris seems to be my nearer
Harris relative, but the matching
segments are all relatively short indicating a nearest common ancestor at G6+.
The fact that he matches
Dondero on chr 5
and 11, Fanshaw or respectively Haddow on chr 12 and Haddow on chr 16 indicate common ancestry between the two
of us shared by them as well.
The matches on chr 7 do not coincide except between Alexander and Myers with a very short overlapping between
Alexander and Irwin. Both are, however, also matches of my 2nd cousin, David Nicholas, which puts common ancestry
squarely in my maternal grandmother's quarter, But the matches on chr 11 and 12 might indicate a
distant common ancestor if they match mutually.
|The graphics of this row have been moved to CompBurt.htm, where any updates will be made.
This is a group of thirteen common matches pointed by Suzy Burt.
As possible common ancestral, collateral line or match ancestral
name in common Burt shows
Brock has been established as having Frye ancestry (while my only Wood line branches off before the maternal Frye line) in common with me and also shows Jones, Gamble(?=Gamblyn/Gambling for me as an extension of my line from Taylor/Gascoigne/Gambling), Rich, Reed/?=Reade, Cooper, Carey, Williams
Grudziecki shows Pyle, Smith, Taylor, Williams
Bouchier shows Wright, Jones, Reynolds, Ellis, Davis, Battiest, but th name Bouchier shows up as a collateral Terrill wife in TN so I suspect he has a maternal Terrill line off his male line.
Ellis is a known Harrison with a plausible guesstimation on the common ancestors and also shows Lewis, Moore, Read, Savage, Knowles (?= Knollys), Hunt, Thorpe, Walker, Baker, Warren, Bryant, Burrows, King, Mitchell, Strother, Smith, Strickland, White and Wilson.
Wood shows Beall, Coppage, Cumming, Dorsey, Elder, Lawrence, Luckett, Harrison, Peyton, Washington, Williams, Wood, Wright, Wilson, Catlett, Dean, Hyatt and Jordan. The combination of the first six names puts him squarely among my maternal grandmother's maternal grandmother's relatives, where a double Dorsey cousin married into the Luckett family and moved to Texas, as well as on my Coppage - Cumming line. Brock's Gamble fits in here, as we see Gambling as an extension of this line.
Magrill shows Dean, Anderson, Devall, Bland and Howard.
My Rachel Beale was the daughter of Ruth "Polly" Moore, whose ancestry has been completely elusive until the hint offered by
Fourth to sixth to the right is a group of 11 matches in common with Adrian, who are partly in common with this Burt group
Magrill, Rachoy, Savage and Wood show the same short matching segment on chr 12 that elsewhere on this page has been established as a descent from Thomas Taylor and Margaret Swinderby, one of my mat. grandmother's four lines from them runs through said Cumming/Coppage/Bayse/Taylor line.
Although Burt does not share this segment, she does match two of them on chr 5 and another on 1. These may, of course be due to different ancestors in common but it seems likely that they are from ancestor farther down on the line from Taylor to them.
Seventh to the right, all but Adrian have a short matching segment in a range, where the author's paternal DNA is definitely from his paternal grandmother's maternal grandfather Spenser Workman. The segments are all so short though, that they may come from far up any maternal branch along the Workman line of descent that Thelma Anderson's meticulous book so well established back through 17th century. The match group with Jackowiak also involves Workman ancestery.
Perspective of Suzy B Burt
Anderson/Overton descent, there is a match on
chromosomes 2, 7, 14, 18 and 20 of 10 segments which is shared by Glenda Rae
Salmans and apparent sister along 9 segments and
by Van Stephan Burroughs along
10. The date of birth given by Salmans for Charles Anderson is the same as that
of the other source
on the Andersons, which had data that ended with Charles and
a different wife than the questioned Mary x. So we seem to have to
do with the same Charles Anderson.
There are several other possibilities for this other than the open paternal line, which seems to be from Kansas, where I have distant paternal cousins. First there are Hammonds in collateral lines of my Dorseys, then a Singleton rather far back among my Taylors. And a Wildebank also rather far back among the lines I share with the Washingtons, and the Andersons among collateral lines where I have a descent from the Patawomeck Chief Wahanganoche and presumably also Pocahontas. Finally, Evans is a Welsh patronymic turned into a family when any son of a Welshman named Evan got involved with AngloSaxon burocracy, and I have several Welsh lines.
Unfortunately Van Stephan Borroughs offers no names, which could help narrow down this broad field of possilities of a commen ancestor.
My matches with Adin David Mumma and Malcolm C Campbell do not seem to have anything to do with the above match zone. The former seems to be my Bland/Harris/Jamison/Frye line which was in the German speaking community of Pennsylvania too.
McLaurin neé Perry has helped here with a screenshot of the the five names on my list of matches with whom she also matches. Her Perry research had run up against a brickwall. But Perry happens to be the only name we have in common. My double Thruston line goes back to Susannah Perry b d . There is also the earlier 2nd marriage of her father-in-law to Mary Perry, albeit with no known collateral line . But this was most likely the same Perry family due to geographical and social proximity.
2nd to the right, both Salmans are autosomal DNA matches of Jean (Miller) Alexander, who has a greater X chr match but smaller autosomal match with me. Armstrong seems to share the same Briand/Bryant ancestors as Jean Alexander as well as my Frye line.
4th to the right, although Crowe matches in a different range on chr 7 all five seem to match in the same range on chr 2
Fifth and sixth to the right a group DNA matches in common with Joseph L Ball
as seen from Joseph Ball's Chromosome Browser
|Waren, Taylor and Taylor McCrimmon and I are known
Alexander shows only McIntosch (s.b.) and Howard, which I have, but the Taylor pedigree shows "Jane Moore Taylor b 2 Mar 1766 in Orange Co VA d 13
Jan 1849 in Orange Co
m 11 Mar 1793 Charles
Pitt Howard b 25 Nov 1765 in Philadelphia, PA d 20 Mar 1856" which seems to be a possible connection.. On chr 7 there
are apparently matches of two, three and four of us, on 12 and other chromosomes there
seem to be more matches of 3 or four of us.
to the right we see that while Smith does not share the short match on chr 12 for Taylor he does show the typical match on chr 22 for Taylor/Swinderby.
The significance of the short match of all on chr 7 still has to be determined, but Smith's family has always been in the British Ilses and especially in the Northwest of England and has Eleanor Armistead b about 1795 in Hutton Roof about 63 miles from Kirk Deighton. So it looks like it is either Armistead or Taylor DNA. Smith has noted that "I notice that some of the Taylors in the Taylor/Swinderby line have links to Carlisle, and we have some paternal ancestry from the city and it's surrounding area. I also have a distant Danish cousin on 23andMe who shares 6cM both with me and my brother. His paternal grandmother shares 5cM with me and 0cM with Daniel".
Alexander's McIntosh is likely to connect with the maternal line of William Cumming. So the longer match on chr 7 seems to be McIntosh DNA
|While Waren, Taylor McCrimmon, Baxley and Berryman match me chr 7 there
is apparently a short common matche of all of you, on 12 where there is conspicuous short match with
The match on chr 22, seen below, is presumably Swinderby DNA but seems to be East European and may from the Hussites, while the DNA on 12 may actually be from the martyr, Rowland Taylor, that on chr 22 seems to be from his wife, Margaret Swinderby.
|While only Berryman, Hawkins and Lewis match me separately on chr 7 the same
conspicuous Taylor match on 12 as above is apparent.
To the right is a group of 9 reported by Mitchell consisting of her, Atkins, Brewer, Johnstone, Jury, Rogers, Blackley, Walsh and the author, whereby we must note that Jury is also included in another group noted above, which indicates that more than one set of common ancestors may be involved here. The general pattern of coinciding matching segments supports this observation as well: While some match on a longer segment on chr 10, and some show the characteristic match on chr 12, Rodgers shows matching segments that do not coincide with the others. This may, of course, be just the result of the random realignment of genes for forming eggs and sperm, but it can also mean a different common ancestor.
To the right, Atkins nee Burns has a Hanson/Savile/Gascoigne line the definitely connects with the author's ancestry, although some details are missing.
as seen from the author's CB
Except for Johnston, Johnstone shows no ancestral names that fit with any of the author's collateral or direct ancestral line. She does, however, show several Swiss families, so for the author Frye seems the most likely connection.
Atkins shows Johnson, King, Miller, Ward, Martin and Williams.
Blackley shows Mitchell, Smith, Walker, Wilson and Woods.
as seen from the author's CB
Walsh shows Davis, Johnson/Johnston, Mason, Harrison, Moore, Griffith, Frey, Harrison, Miller, Smith, Warner
Rogers shows Green and Sutton.
as seen from the Mitchell's CB
as seen from the Mitchell's CB
|While only Berryman, Lewis, Williams and Wilson match me mostly separately on chr 7,
there are apparently some conspicuous and short matches of five or respectively four of us on chr 19 indicating rather remote common ancestry.
Above there was also much discussion of the George Williams who married Jane/Jean Pope and their numerous progeny.
|Vance also has Pope and Taylor ancestors as well as Jennings, Wade, Woodward and Wright.
Fisher shows Robinson ancestors, as does Freeman.
|The match with Myhrvold (of totally Nordic/Polish extraction) on chr 22 is
shared by over 10 Taylor/Swinderby descendants as discussed below. Interesting here are in particular the matches
with Hawkins and McLaurin on chr 10 and 7. McLaurin and Drabold both share the Taylor match on chr 12.
McLaurin also has Perry and Wyatt ancestors.
To the right the first two are also compared with two Nelsons and Nichols and there are matches on chr 1, 2, 3, 5, 12 with Taylor, 15, 21 and most interesting on 22 seemingly with Myhrvold again.
Farther to the right the firt three of these are compared with Nottingham and Nuckolls
|A match of 10 segments on chromosome 8 with Michael Roy Burgess, which
overlaps with my match with John Martin Crain and Michael Richard McNeely
and borders on my match with John Scott Robinson. We also have a short
match on chromosome 15.
According to Michael Crain , I was the only match out of the six persons in my comparison, he could find on John Martin Crain's chromosome browser, which clarifies that this match is not on the same chromosome of pair number 8 as the others.
Of the many names listed by John Martin Crain I have only Walton and Walker but only in collateral lines. Walton is off Hester/Mitchell/Hester line (two unrelated Hester lines – different haplogroups), while there are a number of connections between Walker and Taylor rather far back.
So we should find one of these names in the Burgess family. And I would expect to find a Crain ancestor tying onto either a Duncan or one of the ealier maternal lines like Gallop, Bryant, Arroyah, Wahanganoche, or Powhatan.
The match with Lisa Janine Cloud probably comes from somewhere along this Bland/Pope/Duncan/Gallop line.
Michael Richard McNeely has Duncan, Gallop and Bryant among his ancestors, so the small matches he and Crain have on 8 and 2 seem to be from this line.
John Scot Robinson’s list of names zeros in on several possibilities: while I do have Robinson
in the line Bland/Nicholas/Carter/Armistead/Robinson,
which - as discussed elsewhere on this page - is a sept of Clann Gunn. The match on chr is along a range I have identified as
Jamison for my perspective, which is another sept of Clan Gunn, so this is Clan Gunn DNA.
I also have two Pope
lines that converge above the branching Bland/Pope/Duncan and this clan as well as
sept Jamison. But he also
Taylor and Prather. My McConnell was a branch off of
MacDonald rather far back, which certainly has intermarriages with Clan Gunn as well.
Although this match does not cover the range of the others it does border
on it, and the border might be the break in regrouping.
Burgess shows a Withers line, as do I closely related to Duncan, so all but Cloud seems to be on my maternal grandfather's paternal side, except that Burgess also shows a Courtney, while my maternal grandmother has a few rather ancient de Courtenay lines so that a shorter match from one of these ancestors cannot be entirely ruled out. To be borne in mind is that while the common de Courtenay ancestor was back 19 or more generations ago, the intermarriages of the collateral lines in this family were to about 50 % or more with other families from whom my grandmother multiply descended.
To the right a group of 23 matches with John Carter and his mother, Blou Carter. John has short matches on chr 6, 7, 8,, 9, 10, 12 and 17 that his mother, Blou, does not share, so they must be from his father. The two on chr 12 are known Taylor DNA
Second to the right, the longer match on chr 12 with Adamson may be the author's paternal Hester DNA rather than his maternal Taylor DNA, as recent analysis indicates that only the Hester DNA spans the gap between the three characteristic Taylor segments, while no Taylor descendants have been found to match on a segment spanning the middle and right segments.
Griffith-McDaniels shares the author's paternal Griffith and Willoughby ancestry. Both Carters match on a short segment in the same range as the longer Griffith match on chr 1, so this is either Griffith or Willoughby DNA.
Fourth to the right, Crane is also an X match of the author. As discussed below, she seems to share either Huss or Frye ancestry with the author. Her single Taylor match with Carter on chr 12 indicates that both must share other segments than those with the authors and possible other ancestors are involved than those shared with the author.
e one on 16 indicate both are on the same side of my family, while the shorter match with Carlisle
on 8 together with
the ones on 5, 10, 12, 15 and 20 indicate they are all on the same side of my family,
which seems to my paternal side.
My Hesters do include a Searl line that daughtered out and is too recent to offer plausible common ancestors.
|Steven Freeman is an Ivye and
short match on Chromosome 22 and another on 9 with Caroline Melissa Braxton Rober that matches the part I have in common with longer ones with Caroline Melissa Braxton Rober, Charles Preston Ponton and Robert Lee Smith, while the latter also overlaps with that of Robert Lawrence Dyson.
It is hard to say whether these five are different parts of a longer one the one common ancestor had or whether they are smaller segments regrouped from several ancestors. I would guess that the latter is more likely and that I have different more distant ancestors in common with each of you.
I have a Mitchell line in my paternal great grandmother.
Caroline Melissa Braxton Rober also has Singleton which I have far back along my quadruple Taylor line, also a Housden of my double Thruston line, O’Brien rather far back somewhere. Then in collateral lines I have Braxton and Taliaferro. As the latter are nearer I would expect the common ancestor to be over one of these collateral lines.
Robert Lawrence Dyson’s Taylors do not seem related to mine. My Frye line had a Hess in it and was in Worms until 1689. Further back I have a few Beauchamp lines maternally. There is also a Payne line among my Jennings and Robinson in my Armistead line as well as Jett off my Gallop/Bryant/Arroyah/Wahanganoche/Powhatan line and a Wright line. There was also a Newton off my Pope/Foote/Berryman line, and a West off my Nicholas/Carter/Ludlow/Windsor/Blount/Etchingham line.
Robert Lee Smith offers no other names to work with.
Neither does Charles Preston Ponton, but I do have Pestons in a collateral Nicholas line:
To the right Steven Freeman shows both Taylor and Gilbert ancestors, so the match to the right of the break
on chr 12 may be both Gilbert on my paternal side and Taylor on my maternal side.
Third and fifth to the right: two screenshots from Andrea Lynn Wirght's CB with 6 common matches, she is a descendant of Osborn Sprigg and Rachel Belt dau of Joseph Belt and Hester Beall so the matching segments are either Sprigg or Beall DNA and some of common matches may have only one or the other.
To the right, while the short segments on chr 12 seem to match with the author's maternal Taylor DNA, as this falls on three distinct segmenty, the longer match with Froehlich is on a longer segment overlapping the range of the middle and right Taylor segments.
Gray seems to share this Taylor/Swinderby DNA with the Freemans and me, but Gray also has Mitchell, Jameson and McConnell ancestors to explain the other matches that he does not have with them.
Haddow shows a match on chr 12 that looks more like Gilbert than Taylor DNA
|Andrea Wright shares 28.03 cM of DNA and 32 DNA matches with the author as well as
Sprigg ancestry. As this is a G8 or 6th cousin relationship,
the matching segment on chr 9
can be provisionally tagged Sprigg DNA although the author's primary match with Sprigg is on chr 6 and he only share the Huguenot/Hussite on chr 5 with the Wrights.
To the right, Thompson has a short Thompson/Edwards/Wright line that may relate to one or more of the author's Thompson line and/or his Wright line or Wright's own line. He shares the Sprigg on chr 6 as well as two of the Taylor segments on chr 12, while Thomas Smith shares the Swinderby segment on chr 22, and James Smith shares the Andrews segment on chr 11. To make this even more complicated, there is a lost collateral Wright line off the author's double Pope line via Pres. Washington's great grandmother, Anna Pope, to whom any of the Wright lines here including the author's may relate (either before or after the Washington/Wright marriage), and to whom the author's Nicholas/Carter/Ludlow/Wakelyn/Washington line also relates. Just to top off how complicated Thompson's short pedigree may prove, we see "Gennings" as a first name in his Thompson line, which smacks strongly like "Jennings".
Second to the right, Rabourn has Keene Ancestry that is likely to connect with author's if followed back. The author's Keene line begins at G9 or 7th cousin, so the segment matching Rabourn can be provisionally tagged Keen DNA. Rober shares the Sprigg segment on chr 9. For the author, the Keene descent converges on his Jennings line via WITHERS descending in his maternal grandfather's paternal 1/8th sector, but also branches off collaterally at G16 from his Thorley line in his maternal grandmother's Nicholas/Carter/Ludlow/Windsor sector. Hence the clustering of short matching DNA segments makes us expect to find the ancestors who donated them in rather remote ancestral sectors of our pedigrees.
Third to the right, there are some interesting matching segment but no clues yet as to which ancestry is involved.
Fourth to the right, Lawley matches on the Sprigg segment. The longer match on chr 12 with L'Heveder is probably not Taylor but the author's direct male Hester line as discussed in the a href="CompPenner.htm">Penner row. Lawley is included in the group in common withPrater who shares Prather ancestry with the author which is where the author's line branches off the Spriggs.
Fifth to the right, we see a comparison made with Wright's CB
Sixth to the right, Douglas Harris also matches on the Sprigg segment, while James Harris shows other matching segments that may come from the author's Overton or Harris line.
Seventh to the right, Figueiredo, Edwards and APD all match on the Sprigg segment, while Curtis matches on chr 11 just next to the Andrews segment, so she probably shares the ancestry of a spouse somewhere along the author#s Bland/Nicholas/Carter/Ludlow/Windsor/Andrews line. Figueiredo, APD and Curtis all match on chr 13, as does Schrader ninth to the right. Curtis is also included in the group of matches in common with Blackstock who shares Barbee and Catlett ancestry with the author.
Ninth to the right, Calvin-Fernell and Bridgers match on the Sprigg segment on chr 9, and the match with Bridgers and Avery on chr 10 as well as with Williams and APD there reveal some common ancestry in need of investigation.
Tenth to the right, Rober matches on the Sprigg Segment as well as the long segment on chr 10 with others, so she seems to be more closely related to the author than the others on whatever line is involved.
Perspective of Andrea Lynn Wright's CB
Perspective of Andrea Lynn Wright
|Fehlberg with largely Prussian ancestry shows only three matches in comon with the author, among them Jeffrey Day, who matches the author
on chr 1 along the same segment as Salinas. As discussed below this longer matching segment
indicates a relatively near ancestor and Salinas seems to descend from Abraham Jamison and Christina Frye, but the
DNA segment does not seem to be Jamison DNA, so either the Frye side om my descent or the next generation,
Levicy Huss, are likely sources and both seem to go back to the Hussites. Here we are reminded that many
Hussites fled Bohemia under the Hapsburg repressions and were welcomed in the German provinces to the north not under direct Hapsburg control.
The matches on chr 12 otherwise found to be Taylor or in some cases Clann Gunn DNA would generally not be expected in Prussia. But Clan Gunn is Orcadian, i.e. a Viking Pictish mixture, and there were frequent contacts between Scotland and the German Provinces as well as many British campaigns in Germany in the 16th, 17th and 18th centuries, not to mention the Swedish intervention in the 30 Years War.
Second to the right, the small matches on 10 indicate a common ancestor between Becker, Fehlberg and me,
while the small matches
on 5 and 14 indicate that White and Rogers have a common ancestor on the same side of my family
but the ancestor in common with Fletcher seems to be on the other side of my family.
On the right White matches Magril who shows the names Bland, Howard, Anderson, Davis
|Becker shares a descent from Miles Cary and
Ann Taylor, from whom I have two lines of descent. So the corresponding segment matches on my respective
maternal chromosomes 2, 5, 9, 13, 15 and 16 seem to be from either of them.
While only Becker and Rogers seem to have a longer match with me on chr 9,
Williams does have a miniscuel match in in this range, matches Hamilton and Rogers
on 2 and Fehlberg on 5. And ther are two matches between Fehlberg and Becker on 10
as well as one between Fehlberg and Rogers on 14.
We need feedback on whether we are talking about mutual matches between these five or not.
|The smaller matches on the chromosomes other than 9 indicate that all but Fletcher may be in the same branch of my ancestors.|
|The graphics of this row have been moved to CompLarsenKarenKaye.htm to speed file loading. Editing updates will only be performed there. The text status as of April 2017 remains, as many pedigree files have links to this row.
Larsen shares over 90 matches and 65 cM with the author.
Second to the right, Felts shows a Benjamin Franklin Wyatt b c 1770 and more maternally a Nancy Susannah Buchanan b c 1753.
Third to the right, Linder shows a Robert Willoughby b 1770 in Alleghany PA and a Mary Read b 19 Mar 1741 Sudbury MA but any connection with the author's ancestry is likely to be more remote.
Fourth to the right Larsen a d Connor share the author's native American DNA on chr 10, where exactly they fit in descentwise is a question to be answered. While Connors matching segments are all rather short and hence indicate more remote relationship, Larsen's longer match on chr 18 indicates about 4th to fifth cousin. Allen is a collateral name off the author's double Pope/Foote/Berryman/Newton/Tucker descent. One of these lines is in the author's maternal grandfather's paternal eighth sector where the double Duncan/Gallop/Bryant/NA lines come together.
Fifth to the right, Lyons shows Anderson, Spencer, Warren and possible Beverley ancestry. Although the exact connections on any of these pedigrees can only be guestimated at this time, a careful study of the matching segments and other Gedcom pedigrees promises some resolution.
Sixth to the right, Flack shows Haywood of Clayton West Huddersfield ?ENGL, a Jeremiah Wilkinson, an Edward Taylor b 1791 d Aysgarth Yorkshire, a Richard Taylor b 10 Feb 1781 in Yorkshire, a Gilbert Wilson b 1776 in Sedbergh, a Sarah Wood b 1760 in Sheffield
14th to the right, we see the more recent additions to this match group
|A match on chromosome 10 with Katherine Hollingsworth Hedgepeth that
exactly matches my match with Benny Bess Crandall and overlaps with my
matches with Sue Lessenberry Steven Clemens and Willis Albert Adkins, barring
the coincidence that some of you may be along the same segments on my paternal
chromosome and the others on the maternal one. Sue Lessenberry also has
a small match with me on 22, and I match with Willis on 11.
Your Drewry Eliza Ann Brown might be of the family of my Original Brown, whom you find in my early Pope files, see Index below. But more striking is the Drury connection which I have multiply more anciently and have another match elsewhere. Then Elizabeth BYRON Elliott has an unusual middle name that rings a similar bell. Cosby I have collaterally in two lines in particular Prather, as well as Walker coming off my Taylors. Then I also have a rather ancient Cromwell line = ?Crowell, and there is a Perry in my double Thruston line.
Benny Bess Crandall shows the names West, Strange, Franklin and Wade, which I have as ancestors 10 to 25 generations back, but Lewis collaterally more recently. The two Powhatan segments on chr 5 and 10 make the West
Sue Nelson Lessenberry’s gedcom file also offer a number of possibilities. Nelson occurs collaterally in a few lines in Va, Williams in direct line there too, Goldsmith is rather ancient in my line, Randolph collaterally but paired with Willoughby I suspect a connection there, Wilson direct, Thornton collateral, Savage multiply ancient, Dye collaterally. Sisson is bingo on my Pope line. I cannot find her Richard Bolling among my collateral Bollings, but these are intertwined with Randolphs, so that smidgeon on 22 might be Patawomeck blood , Brooks is also among my early Popes and Warren more anciently. Thomas in collateral lines.
Willis Albert Adkins shows Harris and Fry, which I have in my maternal grandfather’s mother’s descent, which I presume to be the match on 11 because it does not go in the direction of the others. Baker occurs among the ancestors of other matches I have. Gray is a more ancient ancestor, Morgan is a collateral line off my Buckners.
Steven Clemens covers the match with Willis and overlaps a little more the first two and covers the same range as Sue. Here I see the names a Wilson - Blount of Soddington marriage (the author's West descent comes over this same pedigree), Hobbs, and Jameson (which I have between Harris and Frye). Millikan ( ?a variant spelling of the collateral line I have off my paternal McConnells), Moore which I have thrice maternally and collaterally in a paternal first cousin. Sessions might be Sisson, see above. Smith twice maternally, Stratton anciently, Thornton collaterally, Warren, Williams, Wilson and Wright.
To the right is a comparison of Clemens with conner, Cooley, Cooper and Coster. All but Cooper have a very short match to the left of the break on 12 which I have not identified yet, but to the right of it and on chr 22 are the characteristic matches for Taylor (alternatively for Gilbert) or for Taylor/Swinderby discussed elsewhere on this page.
Farther to the right Clemens is also compared with Coulam, Cox, Crain and Crandall. Crandall name Randall of Anne Arundel Co Md, which I also have although rather remote. Clemens and Coulam seem to be Taylor (or Gilbert) descendants. The other matches on chr 2, 5, 10 16 and 18 seem to tie all together.
To the far right there are comparisons of Clemens, Hedgepeth and Crandall with both my Hidsten matches. The le Blount ancestors were of Swedish descent, which offers an explanation for the short match on chr 10 between Clemens and one Hvidsten. But I have another longer match on chr 10 with both Hvidstens, which does not seem to come from a common ancestor full 30 generations ago.
|Crandall shows Johnson, which I have in a collateral line, Randall as direct ancestor,
and Wade among my Fontaines. Allen occurs among many other of my matches.
To the right we have a comparison of three Bakers, Hegerhorst and Hedgepeth. Hedgepeth shows Perry, Randall and Taylor ancestors. While Hegerhorst shows only Hobbs as a possible connection and also has Jane Baker as a match. My maternal grandmother's maternal line with mitochondrial DNA established runs through Hobbs/Cumming/Coppage/Bayse/Taylor.
The match on 22 shared by very many on this page is also shared by a Norwegian, Terje Myhrvold and also frequently by descendants of Thomas Taylor and Margaret Swinderby b in Copenhagen. It is also shared by people of Scottish descent and not of the Taylor family. As the Vikings were all over Scotland and most clans were in part their descendants, we seem to have a gene segment that has carried over relatively free of regrouping since early Viking times.
The two short matches near the break on chr 12 also seem to have a Taylor connection.
the significance of the other short matches has yet to be clarified, but the longer matches with Dell Baker on chr 4 and Hedgepeth on chr 10 speak for closer relationships. In the latter case we also have the name Randall which seems to be the DNA source for this longer match.
To the right, Boston is a 16th century collateral branch of the author's Andrews pedigree, and Boston does match on chr 11 where an Andrews also matches the author, while Hedgepeth also matches on dhr 16 where said Andrews also matches the author.
|Boston shares 32.2 cM of DNA and 42 matches with the author.The Andrews match on chr 11 with Boston has only shown up since 2014, but after after
narrowing the matches
with Andrews down to the Ludlow side of the Ludlow - Pyle marriage
c 1625 AD among my ancestry I checked
the Andrews pedigree four generations further back
and noticed that that a niece of my Elizabeth Andrews
a Boston, also the name of this match whose common ancestry had been puzzling me.
A quick check revealed that Boston
and Andrews both match here. Since then several matches
with an Andrews ancestor here or there have been found to
match here, although none as yet
heve been able to follow their ancestry back to this pedigree, except my second cousin,
The ethnic distribution chart at the top indicates this is North Sea DNA,
so my earliest Andrews ancestor is likely to have been a Viking.
Boston is also one of the 28 matches in common with Crockett also in a group with Hendricks, where there are also some Prather descendants.
|The nearest Common ancestors with White are
Maj. Benjamin Berryman and Elizabeth Newton. Both of my maternal grandparents has a Pope/Foote/Berryman descent.
So the match with White over the break on my maternal chr 10 can be established as Berryman/Newton DNA.
Anyone who has a match with me and White is likely to have this couple as ancestors too. The shorter matches with White
may be from this couple too, but any one of them may be from some other more remote common ancestors.
Hence Farmer Clemens and Crandall are likely to be Berryman/Newton descendants if they also have White as a match. If not the match with them has to be on my paternal chromosome.
The short range of coincidence between Farmer and White can mean that the common ancestor is either a Newton or
a Berryman or just a different range of chr regrouping inheritance or different common ancestors for this range.
The short match to the right of the break on chr 12 has been identified as Taylor DNA (alternatively for a paternal chr match as Gilbert DNA), as discussed elsewhere on this page. The Taylors in early Virginia were geographically close to the Berrymans, so the match on chr 12 with White, Farmer and Clemens leads us to expect a Taylor descent for them too.
The match with Jordan on chr 12 raises the question whether the matches on chr 10 with both Jordan and Crandall might be Taylor DNA or from some other ancestor along one of my maternal grandmother's 4 Taylor descents.
|Armstrong shares Dorsey and possibly
Mitchell ancestry with the author.
Although the matches on chr 10 are scattered, the two matches on chr 2 with Nelson and Waren may be from one of the several lines I may have in common with Nelson as shown below under chr 22 like Wilson or Sisson.
The match on chr 7 with Tye, Armstrong, Brock and Waren may be one or
two different common ancestors.
Tye is a triple Terrell descendant. So the matches with him have all been provisionally marked as Terrell, although the one to the right on chr 10 is about the same as one that has elsewhere been marked as Wade.
Waren has several rather short matches, and as many as 5 on chr 12, only the one to the right of the break on chr 12 has been identified as Taylor of Virgina
To the right are comparisons with matches in common with Armstrong, of whom only Conley has made a Gedcom pedigree available, in which only a Susanna Garland b 1724 could be "guestimated" into the author's Garland pedigree.
|White shows a
b 1708 Westmoreland Co Va who was a sister of my
Frances Berryman and hence a Newton descendant.
So the match on chr 10 seems to be either Berryman or Newton DNA,as do the ones with White on chr 1, 2, 3, 5.
But as discussed elswhere on this page, the match on chr 12 with White is either Taylor or Scottish, probably Clan Gunn, i.e. either Gunn, Henderson, Jamison, Wilson, Robinson. Roberson etc.
To the right we see common matches between Barber, who is Australian with ancestry almost exclusively from England, in particular from Sussex and Essex, and shows Mitchell and Taylor as ancestors. and me: Faulkner (shows no ancestors). Hammond (shows Mitchell, Walker, Brooks, Warren, Wilson, Spears, Thomson, Leigh, Seargent, Singleton, Smith, Miller, Crow ancestors), Hayden (shows only Harris, Humphrey, and Smith, but his Bussingers came the same way as my Frye line, and his de la Chaumettes were evidently from France as my Fontaines were.), Harding (shows Ellis, Newton of Lancashire, which I have along my double Pope/Foote/Berryman/newton line, Richarson, Taylor) and Hurst, who shows no ancestors.
Our Taylor ancestry should meet at one of the sons or grandsons of the martyr, Rowland Taylor.
|Woodruff Fricke seems to share the Taylor descent mentioned elsewhere on this page,
and her match with Nelson and Waren on chr 2 as well as with Webb on chr 10 indicate
they all match each other.
To the right, besides showing several Norwegian, Polish and French Canadian names, the Hvidstens show Webb, Fontaine, Gilbert, Woodward, Wright, Wyckoff and Paine, and they show a relatively long match on chr 10 indicating nearer relationship. Comparison with both Webbs in my list revealed nothing, But Jordan does show a long match here as well as another short one that seems to match Shortridge and Welsh, they show no names that help clarify the significance of the match, nor do Ponton or Ralls.
Fourth to the right, There is a collateral Austin line off my Blands.
as seen from the author's CB
as seen from Wilson's CB
Woodruff shows Davis, Bland, Johnson, Bacon Thompson, Woody, Walker
Bristol shows Taylor,
Terrell, Wilson, Wright, Davis, Dyer, King, Ferguson, Martin, Allen,
Anderson, Boone, Brooks, Bryant, Moore and Perry.
Cooper-Witter shows Webb, Catlett/?Callett and Terrell as well as Elliott (links to possible common ancestors in the following pedigrees here), Cotton, Smith, Christian and Baker, while the author has Webb and Terrell ancestry directly over his Nicholas line as well as a second direct WEbb line over his Ludlow/de Windsor line and collaterally over his Basye/Taylor line. These may well all be of the same Wiltshire family, which has yet to be investigated and established as a paper trail or at least DNA confirmed fact. The author's Catlett line is in his maternal grandfather's quarter.
Davis/Ferguson shows Bryant, Boone, White and Davis
Finley shows Skinner, Thompson White
Ingalls i s known to share Workman ancestry with me.
Kirby shows Ludlow, Nicholas, Armistead, carter, Fitzhugh, Rose.
Straub shows Allen, Floyd, Bowles, Carroll, Taylor, Swinderly, Nin, Terrell, Wilson, Walker, Jones Montague
Third to the right, on chr 5 we see that the matching segments with Wilson, Boles and Bristol end exactly adjacent to the right of a segment that has been identified as Powhatan DNA indicating this is from the spouse of my ancestor along one of my two Powhatan descent lines. Austin matches in this range too and is likely to be a Bland descendant, while Thomas Pope Bland Sr was one such spouse.
Fourth to the right, Carroll is a Barbee and Catlett descendant, while Cooper-Witter shares the Catlett and Terrell ancestry but not the Barbee. So where both match the author is Catlett DNA, and where only Carroll matches is Barbee. The longer matches on chr 5 are adjacent to the right of the author's Powhatan descent and also not shared shared by the author's Nicholas cousin, who also shares Terrell descent but is not in a group of common matches, so together we seem to have to do with a spouse somewhere along this double Powhatan descent line, which would be either Bryant, Gallop, Duncan, Pope or Bland or alternatively in the descent Duncan, Jennings or Bland. Cooper-Witter has Dunkin =? Duncan ancestry.
Ninth to the right, Ingalls is a descendant of the author's paternal Workman line, but the matches on chr 15 somewhat overlap the matches with Carroll there, whose common ancestor is on the author's maternal side. Hence Ingalls' segment must be Workman DNA.
Eleventh to the right, shows Johnson (see Johnson matches) with a long matching segment on chr 5 that indicates common ancestry at about G5 to G8, which seems close enough to do an entire row of matches in common with him.
Twelfth and 13th to the right, Tye is a triple Terrell descendant.
as seen from Wilson's CB
as seen from the author's CB
as seen from Wilson's CB
as seen from the author's CB
as seen from Wilson's CB
as seen from Wilson's CB
as seen from the author's CB
as seen from Wilson's CB
as seen from the author's CB
as seen from Wilson's CB
as seen from the author's CB
as seen from Wilson's CB
as seen from the author's CB
as seen from Wilson's CB
as seen from the author's CB
|This is a group of 41 matches in
common with Johnson, several of whom are also included
in the Wilson matches of the row above. Very many in this group share
at least a part of the
long match on chr 5. But there seem to be several ancestor pairs involved in forming this group.
The matches in common with Wilson are shown in the row above,
Included in this group is Boston, while the name Boston is a descent line from Andrews as registered at the College of Arms in the early Heralds Visitations. Details of the author's match named Boston's connection to this ancient line are still missing, but his extensive Gedcom pedigree fails to give any clue as to another relationship on his part with the author, so all matching segments with him are provisionally tagged as Andrews DNA. All those in a common match group with Boston matching on the same segments are therefore presumed to have this Andrews DNA, whether from Andrews descent or indirectly from some maternal line off Andrews prior to 1400 AD is an open question.
Second to the right, Wade is a maternal line off the author's Fontaine ancestry, various matches to the right on chr 2 along the range of the blue marking have been identified as Fontaine DNA, but the match with Wade indicate that two parts of this segment are actually from the wade sector in the Fontaine ancestry.
However, Tye is of triple Terrell descent with no known Andrews or Wade descent, and yet we see a match to the right on chr 10 that is identified as Andrews DNA, from which we must conclude, that either the author's Terrell ancestors had an Andrews ancestor, or that Boston also has a Wade and Terrell ancestor along one line, or that there is some even ealier common ancestor involved here - in case research of the two former possibilities rules them out.
Second to the right, Sandridge nee Grigsby is likely to be a descendant of Ann Foley b before 1720 and Benjamin Grigsby b 1707 VA, because she shares the segment on chr 20 that the author shares with Self, who is the author's distant Cary cousin as well as closer Owens cousin. Matches on the Jamison/Huss and Andrews segments indicate multiple shared ancestry.
Sixth to the right, the short segments on chr 5 and 10 marked gree and matching Crumby are Andrews DNA, as is the one on chr 10 matching Davis/Ferguson.
Ninth to the right, the match with Fine on chr 11 possibly overlaps or is at least adjacent to the typical segment for Andrews descent, while his match on chr 10 definitely includes another Andrews segment, as does the matche with Ferguson/Davis on chr 10.
Here only Johnson is part of the group for this row, but he was compared with Hinton after comparing Hinton with Hendricks, Nicholas and Hayes as a possible Prather descendant, because a known Prather descendant, David Hinton, had just transferred his Ancestry.com test results to FTDNA but did not appear in the author's match list.
|This is a group of 19 matches in common with Triplett-Decrease. She matches on the
Huguenot/Hussite DNA segment on chr 5 and shows
Walls ancestry, so
a Walls connection could be
"guesstimated" in the latter pedigree. There are Owens - Pettit connections in the former
that have to be looked into more carefully and could have brought this match.
Triplett also has a
Pilkington line with Drura as
a first name hinting at a maternal Drury line.
Several ancient connections are possible here and will be discussed
as evidence comes in
A match with Blackstock s.b. has allowed the identification of several segments as either Barbee or Catlett DNA, in particular the first and fourth of six with Triplett-Decrease on chr 10. A J J Burks has hosted considerable Pedigree data www.ourfamtree.org/browse.php/John-Catlett-III/f91242 on the Catletts as well as on numerous other collateral lines the author has integrated into other pedigrees, but neither a relation to the Burks shown here nor either of them to these pedigrees have not been established yet.
Woodruff-Fricke seems to have Jamison ancestry, although details are missing.
Third to the left, Montgomery shows Berryman ancestry , but from Ireland after 1800.
as seen from the author's CB
|Alexander is also shown and discussed in the row below this.
Second to the right, Morgan has an X match with the author.
Third to the Right, Kerrigan is discussed in the row with Pautenis
Sixth to the right, the Minor brothers as descendants of both the author's maternal Frye and paternal Owens/Kenton/Miller lines have been blended in for comparison. Five bars showing the author's ethnic origin distribution have also been blended in (there were no matching segments on chr 9 so this chr was covered by the EOD bar). Spicer is discussed in her own row, but her match on chr 18 with Bruce and Starr must be either North Sea or East Med DNA.
as seen from Bruce's CB
Gilchrest and Hawkins have X matches with Bruce.
as seen from the author's CB
as seen from Bruce's CB
Nerby has an X match with Bruce
as seen from the author's CB
as seen from Bruce's CB
as seen from the author's CB
as seen from Bruce's CB
|This is a group of 30 matches in common with Isbell including largely the above row and mostly
sharing a long match on chr 5 but sharing very little with the author's 2nd cousin, David Nicholas, in his maternal
grandmother's quarter except in a few cases Andrews DNA (G17, so very remote).
So the line to the common ancestor for this DNA segment is more likely go over one of the other three quarters.
However, both Isbell and Nicholas have listed Beverley
and Robinson descent, as does Nicholas
The author's ethnic distribution display at the top shows Baltic DNA for most of this range for both sides with a short interruption of Atlantic for one side and West and South Asian for the other side, which may include exactly the break in the match with Isbell.
The short match to the left of the very short break in the matches with Isbell on chr 5 has been established as Powhatan DNA, so there is a certain likelihood that the longer match with many of the others in this group to the right of it is from the spouse of an ancestor somewhere along the author's double Powhatan descent line: Wahanganoche/Arroyha/Bryant/Gallup/Duncan/Pope/Bland, while the greater and rather equal length of these matches speaks for one or more siblings in the same generation as ancestors of the respective matches. The common ancestor seems to be as remote as at least G5 and may be as remote as G9.
Brock has Duvall ancestry, which is a collateral line of the author's Howard line, while another multiple cousin and Howard/Duvall descendant, Marlowe, does match Isbell on the left side of the break but not with Brock on the right, while Marlowe does match Brock on chr 13, which must be Howard DNA. This may mean he descends from one of the five brothers of Marlowe's Priscilla Duvall, although there is a Lewis Duvall b 1745 d 1808 IL m1 Theresa x + 3 ch m2 Mable Selby + 1 ch, which does not include the wife of Brock's Lewis Duvall d 1805, Eilzabeth Wheeler, nor a daughter Sarah, although the name Sarah Wheeler appears as wife of a brother. This makes all too much smoke for there not to be a fire, so to speak. However the latter descent also includes a Radcliffe line, while the author's Fairfax line includes an Ellen Radcliffe at G20. So the matching DNA segments with Brock may be either Howard or Radcliffe DNA if not otherwise identified.
Carr has an Ashley Johnson and Martha Woody appearing 1710/1713 in St Peters Parish New Kent Va
Fifth to the right, both Isbell and Nichols share a descent from Col Tony Nicholas and Martha Robinson, but as Nichols may be a variant spelling of Nicholas and there also Taylor, Robinson, Randall, Garland, woodward descents involved here, it is not entirely clear which line(s) we connect on and which ancestors the matching DNA is from. There is a Flowers line further back here, while the author has a Flora/Florea line paternally, which - if the same - might better explain why thes matches do not match David Nicholas, a 2nd cousin on his maternal side.
Eighth to tenth on the right, a group of 9 matches in common with Gavan Alexander, who has Savage, Smith, Warren and McConnell ancestry. There might be some superimposure on chr 10 of the author's maternal Powhatan DNA over possible paternal McConnell DNA, so matches here are asked to report whether they show a matching segment with the others in this group.
Lilly also has Warren and Williams ancestry in Old Rappahannock Parish Va that may connect with the author's Jennings/Williams line as well as Brooks of Oxfordshire later Middlesex Co Va, a Snead of Hanover VA and Taylor of Barnstable MA (apparently somehow connected with the author's Taylors) and a Snead with Bolling and hence Powhatan ancestry
English born Waterhouse has a larger group including David Nicholas in the author's maternal grandmother's quarter, where there is somewhat more English ancestry than the other three quarters, but the longer match on chr 6 (shared by Nicholas) makes a closer common ancestry seem more likely, as does the longer match on chr 6 with Stevens (not shared by Nicholas), while both seem to have a short match with each other on chr 6 and Smotherman has a short match with Steven on chr 6 as well..
|This is a subgroup of the above including only Berryman, Coster Rayburn
and Sisseck. The pure Norwegian, Myhrvold, has been added to the
comparison because of the matching segments on chr 22 which has been identified as
Swinderby or Clan Gunn / Orcadian DNA.
Berryman presumably shares Berryman ancestry with the author, who has two one Pope/Foote/Berryman line over each of his maternal grandparents.
to the right, Nicholas, whose grandfather was the author's maternal grandmother's brother shares only one of these Pope/Foote/Berryman lines is below the threshold for showing as a match in this group but does match Berryman along some segments, which can thus be identified as Berryman DNA.
|The short match on chr 10 is shared by all, while only Armstrong has the match on 12 that
is characteristic for Taylor (alternatively perhaps Gilbert instead in some cases). His match with
Anderson on chr 2 and 5 and the match of the latter
on chr 3 with Austin and Avery as well as onchr 17 between Aktisson and Avery and between Armstrong
and Atkisson on 20 indicate common ancestry, but the shortness of these segments indicate their
Austin is a collateral line off my Bland pedigree although a
connection with the Austin tested here has not been established yet.
To the right Farmer's match with me on chr 10 does not coincide with my matches there with Drabold, Ellis,
Ewing and Fanshaw. But all share the characteristic match on chr 12 for Taylor. The other short matches on chr
2, 5 6, 14 and 15 indicate some common ancestry. Farmer offers Carter as a possible name in common.
Woodward and White ancestors, the latter a name which I have found collaterally in my double
Pope/Foote/Berryman line as well as in others.
Harris has Overton and Dabney ancestors, I have the former directly and the latter collaterally in a few lines.
|Although these five do not share the same range along chromosome 11 with me, three do seem to have a shorter common match with me on 12, while the other two do share a short match with me on 10, and Kelly and Bazar-Salvaggio seem to match with me on 5, and Webb and Hollingsworth with me on 3.|
|Here Bazar and Henry Launay seem to match me on Chr 11 along one short segment, while both Launays match me along another on 11, ande Hollingsworth and Bowen both match me along another short range of 11. Then all six of match along a short range on 12, and Bazar and Bowen match me on Chr 1, 3 and 14.|
|A match on chromosome 11 with Daniel Michael Parrish along the same
range but a little longer than the one that with Willis Adkins.
This match is probably our common Dorsey ancestors, on my mother’s side making us 8th cousins.
With Willis Adkins I also have a match on chr 10 that seems to be on my father’s side, so I suspect there is no match between the two of you and that the match with him is just coincidentally on the other 11 of the pair in this range. Please check in your chromosome browser, if he is among your matches here.
Dickerson shows a Frances Taylor b 26 Jan 1714 m William Stone, while my Taylor pedigree has a Frances Taylor b 1714 with no details on marriage and children.
Woody nee Dickerson and P G Dickerson have Terrell ancestors as well as Garland, Taylor, Markham, Christian, Robinson, Thompson, Tucker/Woodson, Woodward and Payne. However, only the left of the three matches on chr 14 is shared by my cousin, David Nicholas who shares all of these ancestors except Payne and Christian and one of my two Smith as well as Pope/Foote/Berryman/Newton/Tucker lines. The connection between our Christian lines has not been established yet, but it is a closer relationship for me, so if so, the longer match would be best explained by this.
Watts is also in this large group of 25 and has Thompson ancestry, which identifies a match on chr 1 and one on chr 2 as Thompson DNA, which I inherited along my Tucker/Thompson line
|Allen shows Wilson, Miller and Moore as possible common ancestral names.
Pennington shows Harris and Anderson as ancestors, which I have as a collateral line off Duncan/Gallop/Bryant/Arroyah/Wahanganoche. But the name Pennington is in a collateral branch of my Tuckers
Bowen also shows Anderson and Moore.
Further to the right, two on my Harris matches have been added to the Pennington - Webb - Bowen comparison with apparent matches chr 1, 6, 10, 12 and 16 suggesting relationship.
Even further right two more Harris matched have been added. The results indicate there is Harris DNA involved in these various double and triple match ranges.
Still further to the right Pennington and Bowen are compared with three Andersons, and there do seem to be common ancestors involved, who must be Potawomack and Powhatan Indians, unless I have another Anderson connection as yet unknown or some other ancestors are involved. Here Bowen and Sandra Anderson both show the same typical Taylor match to the right of the break on chr 12.
5th and 6th to the right Brown, Harris Marine, Tose and Welsh seem to be Common matches between me and Pennington
|Coster seems to have a short match with Besser, Cress, Avery and McNichols in various places,
and the others seem to match each other in various place. So some common ancestors seem to be expected.
While the matches to the left of the break on chr 12 seem to be Harris DNA,the one with McNichols to the right of the break has otherwise been determined to incicate descent from the martyr, Rowland Taylor.
Cress claims to have Terrill/Tyrell ancestors.
There is also a match on chr 3 shared by Besser and Avery - and as we see to the right - by Brenda Sue Dorsey, that – barring a superimposer of Avery's paternal and maternal DNA and Dorsey being her match's married name – must be Dorsey DNA.
To the right there are 11 comparisons as seen from the perspective of Karolyn Mai Avery Ancestral names in common with Mark Tucker: Allerton, Clarkson, Griffith, Montgomery, Neville, He seems related to my double Foote descent who goes back to Isaac Allerton, John Tucker and Thomas Newton. Clarkson is a rather seldom and all of one family if I am correct and a maternal line of this family: Browne There are several Griffith lines, not of the same Y line due to the Welsh patronymics so that any Welshman whose father was Griffith got recorded by an Anglo-Saxon clerk with Griffith as family name. My Montgomery and Neville lines are rather ancient and about as certain to establish a distant relationship as not to show up as an autosomal match, although I have been establishing the matching segments likely to be from such distant ancestors. Ancestral names in common with Susan M. Bailey Moore , Montgomery (Va), Woodward, Taylor , Cook , Wright, Bryan =? Bryant, Perry, Lee (GA), Gilbert , Garland, Williams . I have 3 Moore lines that have brickwalled rather short. Woodward is also more ancient for me but shows up more recently for some matches. I have 4 lines to the grandson of the martyr Rowland Taylor and a DNA match tracing back to an elder grandson and brother of the former. Gascoigne/Taylor Ancestral names in common with Carol Fox: Harris, Fox. My double line to Lucy Fox is Nathaniel Pope My Harris line is Harris . This line is also likely to have been in the Northern Neck area of Virginia before settling in Kentucky. Ancestral names in common with Angela Harwood-Strohschein: (col: Johnson), McKay, (col: Maury =? Mowry,) (col: Nelson), Newton, Reed =? Reade, Richardson, Smith, Tucker, Wight, Wilson. The above Nathaniel Pope was attorney for a Harwood/Hayward of London, his son-in-law, John Washington, married first a possible daughter of the latter. The marriage to daughter Anna Pope brought George’s grandfather and a daughter who married a Wright from whom also a Davis line descends. The Tuckers and Newtons were close neighbors of the Washingtons and Popes. George Washington also has Reade ancestry, as do I. Washington. McKay is a sept of Clan Gunn, I have one line off my Prathers of Maryland line, while Maury is a collateral line off my Fontaines. Ancestral names in common with Marie Louise Henderson: Brooks, Carter, (col: Foley), Green, Owen=? Owen, Richardson, (many matches with White), Wright . She does not show up as my match, but Patricia Ann Henderson does. Nathaniel Pope III married Jane Browne, daughter of Jane Brooke, also in Westmoreland County Va Brooke/Brooks . There is a collateral White line of the Popes
Further to the right Karolyn Avery's son Matthew Ian Avery has Hammond among his paternal ancestry, which I have collaterally over Dorsey, while he has a Dorsey as match.
Brenda Sue Dorsey does not show Dorsey but does Hassler which is thought to be a maternal line off my paternal grandfather's maternal Mitchells, Smith (Pickett County, TN), Brock (Pickett County, TN), Harrison (Pickett County, TN), McDonald, Bingham, Hamby, Gunnels, Livingston, Pendegrass, Sullivan
Colleen Kent shows Henderson, Edwards, Randolph, Woodson, BEALE, Davis, Green/GREENE, Howard, MARTIAU, MAYO, Nicholson/Nicholas, READE, WINSTON, all of which are in my maternal grandmother's quarter as collateral or direct ancestral lines, but direct common ancestors with the author are only Reade and Martiau, possibly Howard as well, if her Thirza Howard b 1733 Va is related to my Howards. Such a connection would explain her match with Matthew Avery, as his match with me is the due to the Hamnond branch of my Dorseys
The short match in the middle of chr 10 seems to be in common with many people of Scottish descent.
Keith Randolph Montgomery shows the names Jennings, Montgomery, Moore, Smith, Walker, England, Robinson, Robison and Hobbs all names of either direct ancestors of mine, collateral lines or ancestors of my DNA matches.
Matthew Avery's perspective.
Matthew Avery's perspective.
Matthew Avery's perspective.
Matthew Avery's perspective.
|Other work on this pages has shown the segment to the left of those matching Ellis on chr 7 to be Armistead/Ellis DNA of pre 1600 Yorkshire, which together with this finding indicate
that the author has Ellis DNA extending to those matching Ellis.
To the right Howle shows the names Stanley, Webb, West, White and Boone, all of which I have as either remote ancestors or in collateral lines.
Hegerhorst shows only Prussian ancestors, so the match with him would seem to be Gilbert
due to the short match on chr 12. But He does show the typical match on
chr 22 for the Taylor/Swinderby descent, so the match on chr seems to be Taylor as well.
|These all seem to have the characteristic match on chr 12 to the right of the break for Taylor 4 x
in my maternal
grandmother's quarter (or alternatively Gilbert in my paternal grandfather's more
paternal 16th sector),
while Coulam, Cooter and Fricke seem to have a short match on
16 in the same
as I do with William Mack Brown.
This is almost adjacently to the right of a segment identified as Andrews DNA for my maternal side,
so DNA from one of one of my Taylor lines could have spoused off the Andrews segment here.
Abruscato has a double descent from Gulley Moore, while I have three different Moore lines maternally. So the longer match to the left on chr 12 seems to be Moore DNA.
To the right we see more of same match on 12 but also a second short match range on chr 12 to the left and on chr 7, 8 and 13.
DeShrage is actually the same test sample as Dr. Duane Sears whose rather lengthy pedigree excludes any common ancestor after 1700.
|These also seem to have the characteristic match on chr 12 for Taylor, while Fricke, Adkins and Alexander seem to match on 8 in the same range as do the latter two on chr 11.|
|The short match on chr 12 to the left of the break for Alfrey and Wayne Anderson seems identical with the match ther above for Fricke and Alexander, while Sandra Anderson shares the typical Taylor match to the right Allen and both Andersons seem to match on 6 in the same range While Alfrey and Allen seem to match on 5.|
|As we see from Butler's CB screenshot this is a mutually matching group.
Butler's ancestors were all born on the British Ilses, so the common ancestors go back more than 300 years. Among his ancestors is an Alexander Wade, whom I have tentatively placed in my Wade pedigree, as this seems the more likely place of the common ancestors. Two segments where we match have been identified on other screenshots on this page as Wade DNA and thus can be so tagged here.
But I also have Butler among my Washington ancestors and two Brown lines.
My Richardson line is 13 generations back.
Brown also has Bridges (the name of a second husband of my Mary Sisson) and There is also Brown in this Pope branch of mine.
To the right, McLain shares my Sprigg, Prather, MacKay, Nuthall, Buckner and Catlett ancestry and has Odell and Ridgely ancestry that is sure to connect with my Howards. and also has a Fowler line that may connect with my Andrews line.
Third to the right, Espiritu is a Dorsey, Robinson, Wilson and Woodworth descendant.
Fifth to the right, Rabourn shares 24 matches with the author including alexander Garrison and Boston, who is almost certainly an Andrews descendant with no other apparent relationship to the author.
|Taylor McCrimmon definitely shares a descent from the martyr, Rowland Taylor, as shown elsewhere on this page by the short match on chr 12 to the right of the break. And Baxley and Berryman share this too.
The two short matches on chr 3 lead me to suspect that White and Williams may share a descent from Taylor too, but were just regrouped out of the chr 12 match. Although entirely different lines of descent may be involved here.
Williams shows an Armstrong ancestor, which is the name of one of my matches, two Griffith ancestors in Virginia from whence mine came too, a line of Duncans that goes back to Scotland without crossing mine, as well as Robinson and Strange also rather farther back.
White may be a collateral line off of Tanny Cooper Witter's Whites.
The longer match on chr 13 is also shown for Morgan on the following screen shot. We need feedback on this to clarify whether this is paternal or maternal relationship for each from my peprspective.
|I anticipate a relation to Drewry on my maternal grandmother's paternal side,
i.e. Nicholas/Prather and that McNichols is an early collateral
line off Nicholas. However, Drewry also shows a 2nd gr. grandfather called Overton Gallant McCarty b 30 Dec 1818.
This rather unusual name leads me to believe he is a descendant of William Overton b 3 Dec 1638 in England d 1697 in Jamestown and Mary Elizabeth Waters.
But Callison, Drewry and Dales do seem to be mutually related. While Mattei and McNichols do not seem to share a relationship with them, so I expect to find their ancestors on my paternal side.
To the right Drewry shows Williams as an ancestor, so comparisons have been made with four of my matches. The matches on chr 2, 3, 4, 6 do yield support for remote relationship.
|The graphics of this row have been moved to www.multiwords.de/genealogy/CompStevensPeggy.htm to speed up this file||Stevens is also included in the
William Griffth match group and shares Willoughby, Mitchell, Grigsby, Gilbert (all 3 the author's paternal grandfather's paternal lines within the ancestral sector shared by Griffith), as well as Pate, Newton, Wyatt, and Holloway and Grigsby/Bryant ancestry (all 4 being maternal lines for the author requiring explanation, if any of the matching segments found have anything to do with the inclusion in this match group).
To the right is a group of matches reported by Verna Atkinson, who appears in Su Davis match list but not mine. Both Rogers and Schafer show X chr matches meaning that the line to the respective common ancestor does not go over two males in succession, which considerably simplifies the search for the common ancestor.
Mattei shows Baker ancestry, Rogers shows Dutton, Schafer shows Harrison, Skipwith and Smith, while the author's four Taylor lines have a maternal maternal Harrison branch, his Carter's have a collateral Harrison branch from which there is a maternal Smith line which is a also a collateral branch off the author's Bacon ancestry. The author also has rather ancient Dutton ancestry and several of his pedigrees have collateral Baker lines.
Ford shows Hale, Harrington. Winters shows White, Anderson, Jones.
To the right,
Third to the right, Hills shares Pyle ancestry with the author, although only Walsh and Johnston share the the match on chr 16 that I share with a direct male line Pyle descendant.
|While on chr 15 only Steward and Gerber match as well as a small match between
Nelsen and Greene,
the matches on 5, 8, 14 and 20 indicate a possible mutual relation
between the six of us.
To the right, Shawn Eric Carroll with Barbee ancestors as well as
finds that he shares Nelsen, Hawkins, Winters, Shelton and
Woodruff Fricke as DNA matches with the author, while the links here are not to his pedigree
but to mine.
Hence the longer match on chr 15 and possibly on 15, 14, 9 and 1 seem to be Barbee DNA.
As discussed elsewhere on this page the matches on chr 22 indicate descend from Margaret Swinderby, who married Thomas Taylor of Hadleigh Suffolk and possibly grandson of the martyr, Rowland Taylor. The narrow segments to the right and left of the break on chr 12 have been identified as either of this Taylor line or Highland descent.
Shawn Carroll's perspective
Shawn Carroll's perspective
|The matches on chr 15 and 16 are characteristic for this group
Although Bittner does not match the others on chr 15, the matches on 2, 12 and 16 do speak for common ancestry and he has Spencer ancestry while neiter her nor the author have established a connection with this pedigree. The author's Jennings and Workman lines may include a Spencer descent, althought this is still more "guesstimation" at present.
|Dingess is a Buckner and Workman descendant,
so that the matching segments can be tagged Buckner DNA.
Ingalls and Reynolds both have Workman ancestors.
If Ingalls and Reynolds do not see Greene Gerber and Nelson as matches then these matches with Greene et. al. are on my respective maternal chromosomes, otherwise they are likely to also be Workman descendants.
The short matches on both sides of the break on chr 12 has been identified elsewhere on the page as a descent from the Martyr, Rowland Taylor, or at least two of his grandsons by the same son.
Reif's mother was Norwegian and has many matches with Orcadian descendants, as does the author. A further connection is believed to be over the author's Maryland ancestors, Christopher Randall and his wife, wdiow Norman, who lived very near the New Sweden settlement that was taken over by the Dutch about that time before falling under English domination. A third possible source of matching DNA with Reif is the author's paternal Wyckoff line which came from Ostfriesland to New Amsterdam but was supposedly of Scandinavian origin, as the Saxons of this area had been as well. Reif's typical Taylor DNA is also shown by a few DNA matches of no known Taylor descent but all with descent from one Highland clan or the other and in particular Cumming and Clan Gunn
To the right Dingess, Reynolds and Ingalls are Workman cousins.
Dingess is also a Buckner cousin as well as possibly
a Pyle cousin.
Robin shares a very small group of 4 other matches. Of these Lynch-Morris has a Lydia Pope b 1869 MO as ancestor and Mink shares a DNA segment on chr 16 with Pyles.
But Pyles also share several other segments with the author, that Mink does not, but have been marked in where applicable.
So that except for Robin, there seems to be direct evidence of Pyle ancestry.
First to third on the right, Green shares ten matches with the author and of the former group only Robin
|Harding reports a group of 14 common matches, one of whom ist Reynolds is the author's double
As possible matching ancestral or collateral names, Harding shows Ellis, Hobson, Newton, Price, Taylor, Richardson and some unfamiliar names from Lancashire.
Hvidsten shows Webb, Price, Baker, Boone, Duval, Fontaine, Gilbert, Green, Johnson, Mason, Paine, Smith, Talbot, Woodward, Wright and Wyckoff.
Barber shows Baker, Bland, Brown, Gilbert, Evans, Griffiths, Gunn, Lawrence, Martin, Mitchell, Nynne, Rich, Richardson, Taylor, Webb, White, Wood.
Fowler shows Allen, Browne, Cox, Hawkins, Jennings, Root, Webb, Williams Wright, Harris, Hawes, Hide/Hyde, Norman, Taylor, Randall, Spencer, Harris ent from the Martyr, Rowland Taylor.
To the right
Fourth to the right:
common matches as seen from Harding's perspective
common matches as seen from Harding's perspective
|The match on chromosome 16 has been provisionally identified elsewhere on this page as Berryman DNA.
Nuckells also claims Willoughby ancestry and has other matches with my 2nd cousin Nicholas (s.r.) that
I do not share with either of them.
As Nuckells does share both Pyle and Andrews DNA segments,
his Nicholas descent is most likely shares the descent from
Elizabeth Carter and is hence over
one of the two younger brothers of Dr. George Nicholas Ni8.
How he ties in with the
Northern Virginian families Willoughby and
Berryman is an open question.
Kinsel matches on on chr 11 on a segment identified as Andrews DNA.
(if not on the other chromosome
of the pair) there are ten segments of these in
common with Daniel Francis
Smith, as well as a segment on chromosome 22 that only
the two of us share, the latter being Swinderby.
And that 14 segments I have in
common with Ned Mayland Lowry overlaps in part
with all four.
Nuckolls paternal line may have actually been Nicholas, my maternal grandmother’s family which goes back to 1250 in Roundway Wilts England. You might want to compare your Y DNA with Nicholas/Nichols. A fifth Nicholas cousin has participated in the Y DNA test and results for a 2nd cousin, David Nicholas should be forthcoiming soon.
Secondly, Lawrence Nuckolls has William Willoughby as an ancestor who was probably a brother or cousin of my immigrant Thomas Willoughby.
Although James Francis Smith seems to have a short matching segment with the four others, I believe it is probably ont my other other Chromosome 16, since nowhere else does he show as matching any of the others, while Gatewood and Kiser do coincide with their matches on Chr. 5.
Second to the right, McCarty is a Nicholas match who does not appear in the author's list, but the McCartys of Virginia are of a known Pope ancestry dating back to 16th century Bristol, so the test person is presumed to be of this family.
Third to seventh to the right, a group of 20 matches in common with Nuckolls. Ingalls shares the author's Workman and Wyckoff ancestry in the latter's paternal grandmother's maternal grandfather's paternal 1/32nd ancestral sector, so the DNA shared is varyingly English, Dutch and East Friesian. The match on chr 5 tagged as Huguenot or Hussite DNA would at first glance indicate that more common ancestors might be involved. But as discussed in the Seyffert row, it seems that the author's direct male line is also from East Friesland and seems to have been of Mennonite persuasion. The growth of the Mennonite church there after 1530 is likely to have been preceeded by the arrival of Hussite refugees after their expulsion from Bohemia by the Hapsburgs. Hence in this Workman/Wyckoff branch either one of the Dutch or East Friesian line probably brought this Baltic DNA into Ingall's Workman line, although the author seems to have this DNA from one of his maternal lines and a North Sea/Atlantic mix paternally. Ingalls seems to share hardly any of the ancestors with the others in this group, so she must simply share other ancestors with them that the author just does not have to appear in the group at all.
Eighth to the right, Ingalls match with the author on chr 20 seems more West Med than Baltic, while the one on chr 15 seems. The matches with Howle on chr 7 and 9 seem to be East Med (or North Sea) and Baltic respectively.
as seen from Nicholas's CB
as seen from Nicholas's CB
|While Fanshaw's longer match with me on Chr 16 does seem to coincide
he seems to coincide with a shorter match with Brown on chr.
2. The interesting pattern of
coinciding matches on 16 raises the queation
as to which of these actually match with each other,
i.e. which are on
the same one of my chromosome pair and hence related to each other.
To the right is a group of 21 matches in common with Mark Nash, who only shows Watkins of NJ and Webb of Va as early ancestors.
Dyson shows Newton, Price, Harrison, West, Jett, Payne, Brooks/Brock and Taylor ancestry, which the author has "guesstimated" into collateral lines his own pedigrees except for Newton, which was already on a line reported by another website. Which of all these possible lines to common ancestors will prove correct is the object of this DNA comparison. Supposedly his Taylor line goes back to Scotland, but he does match on chr 12 with one of the author's known Taylor DNA segments.
Borders shows 2 descents each from a Mary Garland b 1654 Suffolk MA m Thomas Carr b in Yorkshire d 1711 Caroline Co VA and a George Talley b 1771 Louisa Co VA m Sally Ann Cole (my collateral line Overton/Anderson/Talley may connect) as well as a Curtis Pendleton b 9 May 1763 Spotsylvania VA d Todd KY m Nancy Wilson b 18 Oct 1769 Spotsylvania d Todd Ky. The early marriages between Taylors and Pendletons seem to explain the matching segment on chr 12, but I have not been able to locate his Curtis Pentleton in the pedigree yet. There are several more matching segments with him that
|If the longer matche on chr 16 is on the author's paternal side, it must be Nicholas DNA.
But Nuckolls also has Willoughby ancestry, which the author has paternally.
To the right, we compare Pennington, two Andersons and a Harris (who are discussed above at chr 11) with Lowry and Gatewood. The match on chr 16 and the one to the left of the break on chr 12 as well as those on chr 5 and 10 indicate common ancesters somewhere, while Anderson and Harris seem to be likely names.
|Shinavar-Jackson of Quebec has a triple descent from Andre Lafontaine b about 1650 in La Rochelle France.
My ancestor Jacque Fontaine was almost certainly either a brother or first cousin of this Andre.
A look at her family tree leaves practically only my earlier Norman and other French lines as possible
common ancestors for inheriting these common genes. Except for these and some other possible descent of hers from Clan Gunn of Caithness,
all matching segments must be Fontaine DNA
Hence, if Howle matches her here on chr 17 she must be a Fontaine descendant
Unless Howle matches the author on his Paternal side, she must be a maternal side match and hence a Fontaine descendant, so the short match on 17 with Irwin and Wanglin as well as those on 7 and 12 may be alone this line somewhere too, if it is a mutual match, as might the match on 13 with Irvine and Wanglin.
|While only Reif and Irvine match me on chr 13, the matches on 1, 4,7 and 15 indicate a
mutual relationship with Reif, Rosa and Cooper.
|The screenshots to the left and right and below lead me to conclude that Wanglin, Howle, Williams and Goodwin
are Taylor descendants. But the matching segments on chr 7 and 17 shared at least in part by all and many other test
persons on this page has been evading identification.
To the right, a view from including two Taylors below the threshold for the author's match list indicate that chr 7 may be Taylort DNA but give no such indication for chr 17.
Second to the right, the author has a collateral Austin branch on both his Pope and Bland pedigrees, although Austin's descent has yet to be established.
as seen from Grudziecki's CB
This screenshot from Grudziecki's perspective show me and the two Tylors matching on chr 7 - presuming our matches with him are on the same chromosome and not theirs on his paternal chr and mine on his maternal or vice versa. Evidently this and the match on 14 do not reach the 1+ cM theshhold for finding them among my matches.
|Grudziecki also has Pope ancestors
but his are more likely along the Taylor/Bayse line
, which I have been unable to connect with mine.
None of Goodwin's ancestor ring a bell with me.
However, the feedback from Grudziecki that both he and Goodwin share the same genes on chr 17 and that there are probably matches of less than 1+ cM with two Taylors. Taken together with the matches with other Taylor descendants shown here and on chr 22 and 12, I conclude that both Grudzieki and Goodwin are Taylor descendants.
Second to the right, Lillvic, Finnish born with 300 years of Finnish or Swedish sounding ancestry with no other
listed place of birth than Finland, shares only Pulliam and Wanglin as matches with the author.
This match is also adjacently to the left with thet one the author shares with his second cousin, David Nicholas,
but the one on chr 11 and the middle one on chr 5 coincide with matches with him, the three can be attributed to the author's maternal half or respectively Nicholas quarter.
As discussed elsewhere on this page, the match with match with Myhrvold on chr 22 seems best explained as coming form Margaret Swinderby b 1578 in Copenhagen, but a closer look at the matching ranges with Myrvold do not seem to be Nordic DNA at all, but rather East Europe/East Meditarranean. The author attributes this to the conversion of Bohemia to Christianity by Orthodox missionaries and revival of Orthodox teachings under Jan Hus in the 15th century, which resulted in the expulsion of his followers from Bohemia. They then fled to parts of the HRE not under Hapsburg domination, Switzerland and obviously to Denmark, if this assumption is correct.
The author's Frye and Huss descents also go over Chester Co Pa, the Moravian Church and Bohemian Brethren and may be the explanation for the matches with Myhrvold.
The match on chr 17 with Wanglin is mostly North Sea but includes a short range on only one side of the author's family that is either Red Sea or West Asian (color interpretation difficult). The continuation of the segment over such different ranges indicates that the mixture of North Sea and probably West Asian came together in the time before the common ancestor involved, i. e. a West Asian arrived in Scandinavia before 1400 or in Eastern Europe before the missionaries left to convert the Bohemians, i.e. before 800 AD. Then Hussites fled to the Baltic area and Copenhagen taking a combination of East Med/Eastern European and West Asian DNA with them. With such a strong religious tradition it is hardly surprizing, that Margaret Swinderby married a grandson of the martyr, Rowland Taylor.
This screenshot from Grudziecki's perspective shows the five of us with a match on chr 7 or in the case of Goodwin, a near match. It also confirms that both Grudziecki and Goodwin match on the same chromosome 17 with me.
|Cooter's short match on 12 indicates a descent from my Taylor line
,as does the match of Rayburn and Shelton on chr 22, more specifically from Andrew Swinderby.
Besser seems to share matches with Lewis and me on chr 3 or respectively with Shelton and me on chr 3. And Lewis and Shelton seem share the same genes on chr 17 and that there are probably matches of less than 1+ cM with two Taylors.
This screenshot from Grudziecki's perspective shows the five of us with a match on chr 7 or in the case of Goodwin, a near match. It also confirms that both Grudziecki and Goodwin match on the same chromosome 17 with me
|Howle has two White lines as well as a Webb line and Jordan which I have come across in matches.|
|Allen and Carnes have a number of family names in common, but McConnell is also the name of my paternal grandmother, so it seems the common ancestors for the longer match on chr 18 are in this pedigree.|
|Larsen, seems to be on my paternal chromosomes and matches Allen,
Felts and Carnes, but does not match Linder,
who must be on my maternal side.
Allen and Carnes also include Buchanon, Reade, Stith, Smith, Stratton and Walker among their ancestors. These names all occur on my maternal side as ancestors or collateral lines and may account for some shorter matches.
|Although Spicer does not match in the same range on 18 as the other, her match on 12 does coincide very well with Felts, Marcovitz and Cantrall, and with Allen on 1, Felts again on 3, Larsen on 4.|
|Although Larsen only matches Linder and very shortly Hayden on chr 18, she has a short match with Walker and Linder on 10, Walker, Hayden and White on 5, Hayden again on 1|
|The orange match with Christopher W Bright descends paternally on his part from the marriage bonds of
Elizabeth Cooke b 1712 Hamilton Par. Fauquier Va d there 1800
and William Pickett b 1700 Hamilton Par. Fauquier Va d there 1766
, and from James "Old Nigh" WITHERS b 11 Feb 1717 Stafford Co, VA
d 1784 Fauquier Co, VA and Catherine Barbee born Nov 1 1716 Stafford
VA as shared ancestors as well as Temperance Overton b 2 MAR 1679/80 in New Kent Co Va/? Forks Hanover Co Va d 10 Feb 1708/9 in Hanover Co
and William Harris b ABT 1652 (possibly related to my Harvey Harris, 2nd gr. grandfather). My withers line descends from Elizabeth Withers who
married William Jennings, his line goes through her sister Hannah Withers
who married Rev John Pickett (a great-uncle of Major General George Pickett
of Gettysburg fame). Christopher has confirmed other matches from
this section of his father's family lines through FTDNA some as far back
The exactly adjacent matches on chr 19 with Harris (and Rice) would fit as a gene regrouping in my maternal grandfather, who had Jennings etc. on his father's side, while his Mother was Levicy Jane Harris. A similar adjacency can be seen on chr 10 for Ford and Lauer, but the needed clue for interpretation is still missing.
This is on my maternal half of chromosome 19, which raises the question as to whether the partially overlapping match in yellow with Marilyn Ruth Rice is also on the maternnal chromosome or on the paternal one. This match has a slight black stripe in it, so one part might be on one and the other or just a gene regrouping quirk from two different ancestors on the same side.
And the question is also if she also matches with John E Harris, I
|My guess is that Baker, B-W, Tye and Walter are on my paternal chromosome 19 and John E.Harris on the maternal one|
|he apparent matches on chr 2, 5, 10, 12, 14 and 19 definitely indicate common ancestry although possibly multiply and distant.|
|While only Briley and Bert Cooper show a match with me on 17 and not with each other there,
the short match on 12 is the same range as other Taylor descendants have with me, and they do
seem to have a short match with each other and me on 13.
Then 4 of us have a short match on one, where Bert Cooper is just next to this range.
However Cooper Witter has two lines of
Terrill descent plus a
maternal between our mutual ancestor,
Richmond Terrell, and her solomon Terrell leading to my double Taylor line branch making her
a sextuple 6th to 9th cousin.
Three generations farther back than her Solomon Terrill Jr. this line also connects with a Cary
which I cannot find in my data but may connect. Interesting about Witter is also that she has
a White pedigree, a name that shows up among other matches of mine as family or middle name.
To the right, Stevens is a Cary and Beverley descendant with a
later connection with Robinson that make it seem likely that hes also descends from the Armisteads.
|Marlowe is a double a href="howard02.htm#Matthew Howard b. ABT 1690">Howard, a Dorsey, Basye, Pope, Bryant, West, Withers, Keene, Courtney, McCarty, MacKey and double Taylor descendant and hence the author's at least tenfold 7th to 12th cousin.|
|Since Terje Myhrvold shows only Nordic (presumably Danish) and Polish names among her ancestors and my most recent ancestor from this area
was Margaret Swinderby/Swinderly b 1578 in Copenhagen, Denmark d
before 1672 in Hadleigh, wife of Thomas Taylor these genes seem to come from her and confirm both my descent from her as well as her descent from Danish ancestor.
Of course the numerous other lines of descent I have from various Norman families do offer alternative sources for this match, but these
ancestors came over 600 years or about 25 generations earlier and are hence much less likely the source.
Most of my matches on chr 22 are in this same range, and there is a distinct match of some with me and each other on several of the other chromosomes. It is difficult to determine whether any or all of these matches on the other chromosomes are from the same common ancestors in all cases. It is likely that there were some other common ancestors behind some the other matches.
The Taylor DNA I have inherited seems to be on chr 7 and 12, see above.
Lutter has Cummins and Cook ancestors possibly in common with me, as discussed below, where the match on chr 22 seems to be of Scottish/Viking origin. There are several other short matches with Lutter on chr 5, 6, 9 and 12 which all speak for distant relationship.
Vleck, Walker, Welsh and White show no ancestral names. However the matches with Vleck on chr 12 and 22 are characteristically those of Taylor/Swinderby descent, the latter being a Scandinavian connection.
The matches on chr 5 and 8 speak for rather remote common ancestors.
Lutter shows only Cummins and Cook as possible common ancestors, otherwise mostly German ancestors.
So the match on chr 12 may be on my paternal side and
indicate Gilbert, French Hugenots who spent a generation in the Simsheim area before coming to Pennsylvania.
Since there are still Gilberts in this area today,
others may have accepted the Prussian invitation to settle in Prussia and become Lutter ancestors. Lutter
seems to be a dialect shift from Luther.
First and second to the right, a group of 7 matches in common with Kjaernsmo, another Norwegian, includes Nordic and Scottish
names as well as Myhrvold. Of these only Myhrvold shows the characteristic match on chr 22 which the author has as s
discussed above. But Kjaernmo and Graham share one of the characteristic DNA segments traced to Andrews and/or hiswife born
in the 1360's. This family with a rather Scottish sounding names appeared in Suffolk around 1300 not long after the turmoil in Scotland
when Robert the Bruce assassinated the Red and Black Cumming because of their Anglophile views ending peace hopes along the Scottish border
for 300 years. The occurance of the characteristic matching Taylor on chr 12 in this group, or the Huguenot/Hussite DNA on chr 5
does not really contradict the general Scottish or Nordic ethnic heritage of those in the group but simply confirms the author's opinion
that the Hussites were driven out of Bohemia in the 15th century and took refuge all over non-Hapsburg Europe, where
they were quickly integrated into the respective general community. The left of the three Taylor segments is in a broader
Eastern European range on both sides of the author's family. The matches here are always very narrow indicating rather
different and remote heritages, except more to the right a longer range shared by two Frye descendants, the Minor brothers.
The matches with Kjaernmo and Nelson here are left of the normal Taylor segment and may be Huguenot/Gilbert DNA for the author.
Graham does show a Pauline Frey (= Frye) as a third great grandmother, who must have been born around 1810, and another Pauline Frye's mother in the author's pedigree was born in 1794 although the latter Pauline b c 1816 d 1846 is reported to have married Alfred Addison Stirman b 1816 d 1844. As there is no further account of the further developments in either her or or siblings's families, it is entirely possible that she married a second time to Grasham's Melchio/Michael Dorn. which seems to fit into the picture and indicates that the author's previous opinion that his Frye line from the Zurich area around 1650 was indeed a Hussite refugee line, as there had been an Othodox conversion of Bohemia to Christianity with missionaries from Estern Europe and the East Mediterranean. The DNA of the educated class of Bohemians of the 15th century can be expected to include Baltic, Eastern European, East Mediterranean and any other ethnic groups that might have been present in Constantinople around 700 to 800 AD. So although one might expect the Norwegians to have North Sea DNA here, it seems more likely that we are talking about the EE/Baltic DNA mix. Hence they may expect to some Hussite or Mennonite connection here.
Third to the right, Manning shows only a few names, of whom I have Newton on my double Pope/Foote/Berryman/Newton line, but I expect she will find a Taylor/Swinderby line in time. The Manning /Lutter match on chr 6 (if they match each other here) seems to be maternally with me over Cumming or paternally over Cook.
Fourth to the right, Stewart of South Africa, with whom the common ancestors must also be before 1700 in the British Ilses shows STEWART of SCOTLAND, HARRIS of IRELAND, WEST and WILSON Stewart has apparent matches on chr 17 with Lutter, on chr 5 with Steven and on chr 10 with Myhrvold. The latter seems to be of Scottish - Viking origin, as my Scottish lines are so numerous. and Viking descendants are among most Scottish clans.
Straub is a a known Terrell descendant, so if she matches Myhrvold, Stone and Strait on chr 5, 8, 9 and 10 there is some Viking, Scottish or Norman line coming into the early Terrells.
|Considering Myhrvold's ancestry,
the matches on chr 22 indicate a descent from Margaret Swinderby, although recent developments in
Randall ancestry indicate that the author's Randall, wid.
and Clarkson lines in Anne Arundel Co Md on the Delaware border
may have been of Norwegian/Swedish descent and
offer perhaps a better explanation for this match with a Norwegian.
On the other hand a glance at
the author's ethnic distibution chart at the upper right of this page, indicate that
this range of DNA is half North Sea and half Eastern Europe, while his paternal side is more likely to be
North Sea share here. The other matches with Myhrvold on chr 1, 3, 4, 8 and 10 also fall in ranges indicated as either
Eastern European or East Mediterranean, while the one on chr 9 also shared by Davidson is either North Sea or Atlantic DNA.
Some of the Hussites may have fled to Scandinavia from Bohemia, which was converted to Christianity by Orthodox missionaries.
Her match with Tye (a triple Terrell descendant) on chr 1 and also with Mahon on 10 seem to confirm the Swinderby connection
The matches to the right of the break on chr 12 indicate a descent from the martyr, Rowland Taylor.
The matches with Rayburn and Tye on chr 5 seem to indicate a near common ancestor with them, as do the matches on chr 13 with Mahon and Marlowe.
To the right is a common match group Lutter, Davidson, Mayo and Vance. Lutter has Cook ancestry going back to Zealand NL. This may be be related to either the author's male line Hesters or his paternal grandmother's maternal Workman or Wyckoff lines. But he also has a Cummins line that is almost certainly related to the author's Cumming line, but not after G10. Lutter also has a remote Eyre line that may connect with the author's Warburton or Stanley lines. Myhrvold probably has a match with them but under the threshold for display in the CB, but the overlapping on chr 8 indicates this, where the author shows East Mediterranean with possible Atlantic DNA on the other side of his family.
Davidson matches on chr 11 in full North Sea DNA range that has been identified as Andrews DNA, while Mayo matches in an adjacent segment indicating that she share the ancestry of a spouse somewhere along the author's Nicholas/Carter/Ludlow/de Windsor/Andrews line. Her match with Davidson on the two other characteristic Andrews segments on chr 16 and 17 together with the somewhat longer match with Davidson on chr 1 make the probability greater that both share one to four of the earlies generations of the author's descent from Elizabeth Andrews which has been registered at the College of Arms.
52.11 cM of DNA and 38 matches with the Author. The most characteristic matching segment for the group
is on chr 10. The common matches sharing this certainly share the common ancestors from whom Nelson and the author inherited it.
Those who do not either share different segments from these ancestor with Nelson and respectively with the author
or simply share different ancestors and/or the author.
He shows the typical match on chr 22 that I have identified as descendency from
and on chr 12 from the martyr,
Rowland Taylor, although he does not show a Taylor ancestor.
He does have two Randolph lines,
and the Name Willoughby shows up here where a maternal name is missing,
so I expect this maternal
line to turn out to be a Willoughby.
He also has
Wilsons of Virgina here, not to mention other bell-ringers like
Dye, Williams, Bolling, Hunter, Mason, Massey, Robinson, Savage, Sisson, Swearinger, Thompson, Warren and Wright to mention but a few.
Nelson is also one of the septs of Clan Gunn (while
the left of two matching segments on chr 1 is part of the longer Jamison/Huss segment, which the author has
from the Jamison side of this marriage, another sept of Clan Gunn, as discussed for a Robert Sisson of Richmond Wise Va.
Allen has an Elizabeth McConnell b 1785 Somerset Co Pa d 1860 Pendleton Co Ky, which is geographically close enough to the author's McxConnells to presume common ancestry in the range G6 to G10 befitting the length of the segments on chr 7 and 18. She also has a Pettit line which may be related to the Nathaniel Pettit b c 1760 m Rebecca Owens b c 1760 Fayette Co Ky (this Owens branch was founded by the author's direct ancestor's brother marrying Eleanor Bryant wid of Capt Robert Gallop, the author's direct ancestors in an entirely different ancestral sector related to said Bolling/Randolph line.) Hence some of the segments matching Allen may also be Owens or Bryant DNA. But she also has a Carnes/Rouse/Swindle line, and the latter name may be a variant of Swinderly/Swinderby, which would explain the inclusion of Taylor/Swinderby descendants in group. Then there is a Carnes/Rouse/Humphries line which does not fit geographically with the author's possible Humphries line which as a Welsh patronymic has little promise of closer relationship. There is also a McWhorter/Pigg line, which Alma Felts has extended to a maternal Hampton line that could meet with the author's Wade line. She also has Anderson and Buchanan ancestry, although no connection has been found. Finally, she has a Sanders/Phillips/adkins/Coleman line raising the tally of the author's matches with Coleman ancestry to 25 and the suspicion that a a Bland bride in Penrith with a heretofore unknown maiden name was a Coleman.
First to the right, Clay is also in group shared be Jackowiak, who shares the author's paternal grandmother's maternal grandparents as ancestors, and lets us expect his Hester/McConnell/Workman/ Neaves as a path to common ancestry.
Third to the right, we find the name "Farmer" in the Neaves link above as a collaterl branch of the extended maternal Worrell line.
Fourth to the right,
sixth to the right, Reese shows Grigsby ancestry, family with a native American branch, over which there are Bolling and Randolph collateral lines. Reitan shows Henderson ancestry, another sept of Clan Gunn, as well as Brooks/?Brooke (of which the author has a closer one of two in all), Self (a collateral Grigsby line of the author's Owens ancestry where Hales shows up as an earlier maternal branch) and Walters of Scotland (while th author has a Walters line in colonial PA, on which data was gathered from Larry Coleman's tree).
Seventh to the right, Stone shows Allen and Proctor (the name of another match) ancestry. Schwedler shows Crowe (possibly the same as a collateral line of the author's), Howard and Wilson Ancestry.
Eighth to the right, Wilson shows Woodson, Wilson and Venables ancestry (the former being a collateral line of the author's triple Tucker ancestry and the latter two another sept of Clan Gunn and one of his direct ancestral lines, Venables a remote but multiple ancestral connection.) West shows Robinson, yet another sept of Clan Gunn and also a direct ancestral line for the author, as is Moore.
The following links are for members of this group, are to where they are also included in another group: Allen, Cathryn H.; Banner, Jeffrey; Bentley, Virginia Lee; Buckmaster, 7318; Church, Gray Carpenter; Clay, Barbara Ann; Crandall, Benny Bess; Fanshaw, Dennis Bruce; Farmer, Audrey F; Hunter, Troy Matthew; Kelley. Branda; Kirby, Rebecca J; Lilly, Kevin; Mallory, Jeff; Minor, Forrest Louden; Salmans, Glenda Rae; Stone, Jerry L; Stuart, Scott Thomas; Wilson, Kate. Some of these other discussions are in need of updating: a myriad of tasks, which is hard to keep abreast with. Help is welcome!
four matches not shared by Nelson
|Bavousett also shows the typical match on chr 22 that I have identified as descendency from Andrew Swinderby but not the one on chr 12 identified as from the martyr, Rowland Taylor, (or possibly on my paternal chromosome rather than my maternal one and possibly from Gilbert. Bavousett also shares the Tucker DNA on chr 13 with Berryman and Norris, a known Tucker descendant but not a Berryman descendant.|
|The rather singular family name "Sisson" tells me immediately which double line of descent of mine the common ancestors
must be on: Nathaniel Pope Jr married Mary Sisson,
but after his death she remarried 4 more times and had one son by Lewis Nicholas and 3
children by David Wycliffe. Particularly interesting here is also the segment on chr 22 that none of my other DNA
matches share with me, and is likely to be Sisson DNA. Since Atkisson has more matching segments with
me on chr 1 and fewer with the others it seems his ancestry branches off farther down one of my Pope lines,
while ther other may branch off one of Mary Sissons children or siblings.
To the right are comparisons with the matches share by Sisson, who presumedly is a Sisson,
which I have off my double maternal Pope line. So the match on chr 7 with her may be provisionally
tagged Sisson DNA, although other relationship is possible and this segment is not shared with her by
a second cousin of mine who shares one of these Pope lines with me. So it is more likely to have come to me over
the other Pope line
Belcher, wo is also in this group gives no indication of ancestry, but he clearly shares the Andrews DNA with me, as does Freeman.
Stevens and Flynt have other longer matches with me on chr 11 indicating closer relationship. For the former Cary and Beverley fit.
Second to the right, Nicholas shares one of the author's two Pope/Sisson lines but matches Sisson nowhere.
These are all X chr matches and Crane, Cress and McConnell all match along the same X segment
for the same length, and it is twice
as long as any of the autosomal segments I share with him.
The autosomal matches with McConnell are all so short that the
relationship must be 6th to 12th cousin.
The longer X means there must be one to three father to daughter X inheritances.
My maternal grandfather’s
maternal grandmother was a Jamison,
presumably Clan Gunn.
Cress also has a match with one of the three Jamison DNA segments I have on chr 1 indicating
she at least has an ancestor in my Jamison/Huss sector. Coalson, Atkisson etc match on a longer
including Cress's right match on chr 1 and extending about half the distance to the other
match on chr 1.
This longer segment seems to be North Sea DNA at both ends but East Mediterranean in the middle,
being attributed to the presumtion that the author's Huss line ultimately goes
back to the Hussites of Bohemia,
which was converted to Christianity by Orthodox missionaries.
Cress shares the North Sea DNA in this range but not the East Med.
So it seems likely that the common ancestor with the X DNA was on the Jamison side of the
Jamison-Huss marriage: either the as yet
unknown mother of Abraham Jamison b about 1760 d 1843 in Shelby Co Ky.
or Christina Frye Fr7 b about 1777 in Pa, while the short
North Sea match indicats the former.
Don has a short match adjacently to the left of the first Jamison on chr 1. This could be from the spouse of the second Jamison male going back bringing a second grandmother to father to daughter intact X transfer, or my Jamison DNA here might extend farther to the left than that of my other matches. However, both Huss and Frye spouse lines get into the Moravian Church and German speaking ancestry in Pennsylvania and not to the Highlands. These Jamison/Huss segments on chr 1 seems to be in a range of East Med/East Europe ethnic mixed DNA that would fit into the Huss family descending from some of the Orthodox priest who came from the East to converted the Bohemians to Christianity. But the match with McConnell might be North Sea and the one farther left with Crane may be East Europe/East Mediterranean again while the long one even farther left with Cress might begin with EMed go to North Sea and back to EMed again. The longer one with Crane on chr 2 seems to be in an alternating range between EE, North Sea and EMed. For all of us the line back cannot be over two men in succession.
Cress shows Terrell of VT as an ancestor, which also fits for me back to G8
Watson shows the name Pope, which also fits for me back to G5
For Marlowe about 10 common ancestors have already been found mostly in my most maternal 16th sector,
Howards fall out of the X zone for me as well as for him, so the author's Cumming/Coppage/Basye/Taylor line seems plausible
enough in this respect,
except the X segment is longer than all the others with Marlowe.
For Marlowe about 10 common ancestors have already been found mostly in my most maternal 16th sector, although our Howards fall out of the X zone for me as well as for him, so the author's Cumming/Coppage/Basye/Taylor line seems plausible enough in this respect, except the X segment is longer than all the others with Marlowe.
To the right are screenshots of the 9 matches I have in common with Crane. Of them Kinkaid has a Berryman ancestor while the line to my Newtons goes over a Berryman generation.
Stone shows Allen ancestry, while there is a Tucker/Woodson/Allen collateral line off of my
Berryman/Newton/Tucker ascendant line.
First to the right, Seyffert shares the author's paternal Hester and Gilbert ancestors, while Marlowe shares several ancestors in both the author's maternal quarters. the X match with Marlowe can be in many places on his and my maternal sides that do not have any two males in succession, i.e. his Elizabeth Worthington, Nancy Ann Hebb, Mary L Moxley, Mary Porter Peninah Davies, Emelia Miller, Rhoda Dickinson, Elizabeth Gibbins, Margaret Ann McMahon, Hannah Fuller, Mary Dunn, Neetje claessen, Elsken Jans, Lysbeth van Nuys, Nancy Smith, Rachel Feamaster, Catherine Palmer, Margaret Andrews. (The latter name explains the match on chr 11.) His Eliza Taylor is also on such an ancestral line of mine, in fact the direct female line, so I have her mitochondrial DNA. But she is on his paternal side.
Sixth to eighth to the right
is a group of 12 matches in common with Flynt, which promises a multi-cornered array
of ancestors shared by some with the others.
Ninth to the right we see McAlhaney/McAlister matching on the Powhatan DNA range on chr 5 as well as the Andrews range of chr 11 and the Taylor matches on chr 12 or Swinderby match on chr 22, while the X chr match shows common ancestry on both parts in some line without two successive male generations.
|This is a group of 17 matches in common with Smith, who shows Bland, Taylor
and Williams ancestry, as does the author, as well as McDaniels like Cloud.
Greene Co IN proved a critical factor for
guesstimating Smith's place in the Bland pedigree as a 6th cousin, which also fits with the matching segment on chr 1.
If correct this would make the common ancestors James Bland b 30 Oct 1661 d ?1655, Poplar Hall, Monroe Co Va d 1708
and Margaret Harrison b ?1673
The author has
Williams in direct line over his maternal grandfather's Bland/Jennings sector but also collaterally over his maternal
grandmother's Prather ancestry.
But Williams also shows up as a collateral line of guesstimated Harrison connection above, as does a Harrison/Sprigg/Beall connection with a cousin,
Sarah Harrison b Abt 1727, Stafford co d 1789/9 Oct 1785 Fairfax Co Va m John Manley son of William Manley and Penelope Higgins.
Cloud shows Hammond, Hobbs and Vernon.
Ash shares Prater as a common match with the author, while the match on chr 15 with Smith is exactly where the author matches Prater.
Bristol probably shares the author's Bryant ancestry and may share his Beverley ancestry.
Fourth to the right, McLain (in several groups) shares Prather, Howard, Tucker, Windsor, Stapleton and Beall ancestry with the author and the match on chr 1 with him is Clan Gunn DNA indicating that ancestral lines cross around 1400 in Caithness as the remotest possibility.
In all about 10 ancestral couples are probably involved in this group, and few in the group are likely to share all of them.
|This is a group of 20 DNA matches in common with Redifer, who seems to have a few native American ancestors, while the author has the NA matching segments on chr 5 and 10 from either Patawomack Chief Wahanganoche and/or Pocahontas, whose father was a half brother of Powhatan. Redifer's more recent NA ancestry from tribes further West indicates that either these two DNA segments go back much further in history or that it originates from Cherokees driven west on the Trail of Tears who were assimilated into the NA population there.||
Brixhoff's matching DNA is below the threshold for appearing in this group, but was included in the screenshot while she thought to be a descendant of Pocahontas until a year ago. The match longer match with her and Eaton on chr 2 must, however be on the author's paternal side, as other shorter matches in this range that are not included in this group . There are some shorter matching segments here on chr 2 near the end of chr 3 that seem to be from Pocahontas although this range is definitely not NA indicating her first child was not by a Patawomack Chief and more likely from Capt John SMith. So McCreery's match here may just be Scottish DNA or Involve this descent.
The other matching segments show that several other ancestors are involved in forming this group and not all of them are shared by all of those in the group, as is the case in most of the other groups studied on this page.
Seyfert (as detailed in the row above) shares known Hester and Gilbert ancestry with the author, so some of the
blue colored segments are either Hester
or Gilbert DNA, but the match on chr 11 has been identified as Andrews or Weyland DNA
elsewhere on this page, similarly Taylor/Gascoigne DNA. So some of those in this group will share either Hester, Gilbert, Taylor,
Andrews or Weyland ancestors with her
and show additional such segments in their respective Chromosome Browsers. The Taylor DNA is along three distinctive segments of chr 12
and shared by as many as 200 of the author's matches. Many have not found Taylor ancestry yet and the matching segments may
predate the martyr, Rowland Taylor, and actually be Clan Gunn DNA, i.e. either Viking or Pictish or a combination thereof. While my 4 Taylor lines all go over my maternal grandmother,
there are some indications that my paternal grandfather's paternal line includes some Gilbert matches along this range. The staggered ranges along the left segment on chr 12 indicate that
perhaps Gilbert is more likely here but also that the common ancestry is more remote. Hence more Huguenot collateral names could be involved.
Redifer also has two different Parker lines, while the author also has a Parker line, but a meeting of these lines predates 1700 and any known common ancestors.
The longer match on chr 17 with Redifer and Burt and Hall as seen to the right, has yet to be resolved,
but 5th to 10th great grandparents seem most likely.
Frazer shares th Powhatan DNA on chr 5 and Hall on chr 10 as well as Andrews DNA on chr 11. Wilson is a Sept of Clan Gunn, of which the author's double Duncan line is likely to have a share of DNA. The match with Wilson on chr 5 is adjacent to the Powhatan DNA indicating that we have a realignment split here, which seems to have been the Gallop - Duncan marriage along the author's Bland/Pope/Duncan/Gallop/Bryant/Arroyah/Wahanganoche descent that brought him Powhatan DNA on the left and and Duncan/Gunn on the right.
Second to the right, of the Sears brothers only one is above the threshhold to show as a common match with Redifer. They have a Sears line that goes through New England, while the author has a collateral Sears line as a branch of his Barbee ancerstry, so that explains no match. They also have a Payne line from VA/KY that may cconnect with the author's Jennings/Payne line (off of which there is a maternal Frazier/Davis line), as well as a Harris and Lawrence line. But the connections are lacking.
Third to the right, we see more with a matching segment on chr 17
Fourth to the right, we see more with a matching segment on chr 17. All of these are relatively long except that of Stewart. Also very peculiar about Stewart's matches is that the ones on chr 10 seem to be adjacent to the Powhatan segments shared by Redifer, such a phenominen seems likely to come from the diferent realignment of a sibling on one of the author's ancestors where his ancestor got the DNA of the spouse of my ancestor on the line to Pocahontas. The same applies for one of his matches on chr 1, while the one to the right on chr 1 is in the same range.
|This is a group of 20 in common with Watson, who has the same X match as Morgan,
who strangely does not appear in the list of common matches with Watson.
Watson has Pope ancestry, although his ancestor's place in the author's double Pope pedigree.
While the author's maternal grandfather's Pope line does not include a possible X inheritance line,
his maternal grandmother's does, of course. Watson's James Pope has been "guesstimated"
as the author's maternal great grandmother's grandnephew, which would eliminate common X inheritance,
unless this were over some other line for Watson (??and the author). The X source for the author would be
Elizabeth Taylor Thruston Th6 or Sarah
Lawrence Brown Br5.
|Salinas is an X chromosome match, so there is a common woman ancestor along an ancestral line
on both our sides where there are no two men in succession. And she is not a common match or my second cousin in my maternal grandmother's quarter,
so the common X chr spender was an ancestor of my maternal grandfather's mother: narrowing the more immediate list to Nancy Highsmith and her X donors,
Christina Frye and her X donors and Levicy Huss and her x donors.
We also have a group of 15 other common matches to compare for information on possible common ancestors and tracing shared chr segments to them
On chr 19 as well as chr 1 she matches me on a segment adjacent and just to the left of one where I match my 2nd cousin by my maternal grandmother. So it is likely that the line between them came with the realignment of my conception where this chr was formed from those of my maternal grandparents. Together with the X chr information it is probable that this DNA was also from Levicy Jane Harris.
Whitten is Canadian with many English settlers in Newfoundland, so the common ancestry predates the settlement of Virginia and Maryland when the author's ancestors left Britain. He has Andrews and Butler ancestry.
Norris matches on a segment that English born Taylor descendants share with me, while Haggerty on the segment next to it where American born Taylor descendants share with me. Norris also has Tucker ancestry.
Second to the right, Nelson has Mims ancestry of Cumberland Co Va and two Williams lines. This together with a Williams in the group leads to the suspicion that common ancestry is to be found along the author's double Jennings/Williams descent line.
Third to the right, Norton has a Taylor and a Rowland from Northern Ireland so his match on chr 12 may come from either of these
and make the common ancestry predate Thomas Taylor b 1572 Hadleigh Suffolk, as the martyr's, Rev Rowland Taylor's, mother was a Rowland.
Fourth to the right, Coalson matches on a segment on chr 7 adjacently to the left of where I match Salinas.
The longer match on chr 1 shared by Salinas, Nelson, Day, Coalson, Williams, Haggerty, Stapleton, Chalona and Burke is
likely to be from a relatively near ancestor, while Jamison is a sept of Clan Gunn.
Seventh to the right, the Minor brothers are descents of John Frye Jr b 29 Oct 1782 Lincoln Ky, d 19 Nov 1853, and Sarah "Sally" McKINNEY (a nephew of my Christina Frye Fr7 b about 1777 m Abraham Jamison Ja7 b about 1775) and Nancy Owens b. 1764 Fauquier Co VA d 22 Apr 1838 Mason Co KY m 4 Jul 1784 Lincoln Co Ky her cousin, James Rains b Mar 1757 d Mar 1846 son of Cornelius Rains and Mary Kenton sis of Jane Kenton, i.e. double Kenton/Miller descent, as well as a descent from William Woodson I and Tabitha Nowlin, while an early marriage of 3 Tucker daughters to Woodsons made many Woodsons of Virginia a collateral line of the author's Tuckers. Furthermore, the Minor brothers have a Moses Anderson and Nancy Matthews as ancestors, while an early marriage of an Overton daughter to an Anderson made many of the Andersons of Virginia collateral lines of his Overtons, and a marriage of another more remotely related Tucker daughter to a Mathews made many Matthews collateral lines of Tucker too, as well as a marriage of Mary Russell Anderson b 4 Apr 1783 and Phineas Matthews b 27 Jul 1770 son of Aaron Matthew and Mary Hubbard possibly making some of these Matthews also a collateral line of said Overtons. So all of the DNA matching Salinas and either of the Minor brothers is DNA predating Jacob Fry/Frye Sr b about 1726 in Perkiomen, Philadelphia Co PA and his wife Mary/Molly x. While the DNA matching Salinas but neither of the Minor brother is more likely to descend from Abraham Jamison or Levicy Huss d 16 Apr 1842 Shelby Co Ky dau of Richard Huss. On the other hand, the DNA matching either of the Minor brothers but none of the others is likely to be Owens, Berry, Kenton, Miller or Tucker DNA, whereby the first four can only bring a match on the author's respective paternal chr, while all the other ancestors bring matches on the author's respective maternal chr., so there is not necessarily a short segment of Taylor or Clann Gunn DNA on chr 12 interrupting a longer Owens DNA segment as the comparison seems to indicate. However, Robert Minor shows Hilliard Officer Wood Jr as a common match, who is a multiple cousin of the author on several other lines, indicating a connection with the Wood lines in this section too.
Seventh to the right, common Overton Ancestry between Crane (s. next above), Williams, Lyon and the author has been established so a comparison of them with the minor brothers now pinpoints common Overton DNA and a likely connection between said Anderson lines. Hahn shares two lines of Prather descent.
|This group of 15 in common with Hickman involves more than one (pair) of common ancestors
and rather remote ones at that, as seen by the shortnes of most matching segments. As a lab mistake Deshrage shows up in this group but
the sample was actually from Richard Sears.
Harding was English born and shares Taylor ancestry with many in the group.
The graphics of this row have been moved to CompHendricksRandall.htm to speed up the loading of this page. The updates of this discussion are also to be found there. >br> For the long match on chr 5 Henricks' ethnic distribution is also shown, but there seems be compatibility on the right half of the match, where both have North Sea DNA; on the left half the author has Baltic and Hendricks either NS or Eastern Europe.
|Hendricks shares a longer match on chr 5 than might be expected for the common Taylor ancestry shared at G14.
The row above shows the establishment of some of the ancestry for some of these 18 matches shared by Hendricks, for whom there may a Prather descent has been guesstimated" over his Thompson descent, although he may share ancestors with his as yet short Wyatt line, but more remotely. Hendricks has more recently evidenced Warburton ancestry in his tree, which the author's Prather/Sprigg/Hyde/Davenport/Warburton However, the author's direct male line seems to have originated in the Mennonite community of Norden in East Frisia, and the name Hendrix does occur in the nearby Mennonite community. With Defreese matching here, it is clear that his direct male line comes from either East or West Frisia.
Johnson shows Dameron Ellis, Moore, Thompson and Christian ancestry and also appears in a match group with a cousin in the author´s paternal grandmother´s maternal Workman sector.
|This is a group of 19 matches in common with Stogsdill (=?Stockstill),
a cousin of the wife of 5th cousin in the author's Jamison line,
who himself does not show as a match, as the random quirks of realignment can cause. Alone the array of shorter matching segments
makes it seem likely
that several common ancestors are involved in forming this group and that not all in the group share all these ancestors.
there are a few longer matching segments that let us expect to find some 5th to 8th gr grandparents.
The longer match to the left on chr 4 with Stogsdill is shared by the Hunkes, Lozinski and McLaurin, while Pattey matches him on chr 1.
Seyffert is an establish 4th cousin Hester descendant,
but the match on chr 11 has been established
as Andrews DNA, at least for the author's maternal chromosome there,
so she is likely to share additional ancestry here with the author.
The matches on chr 12 are also Taylor for the author's maternal chr and probably Hester for the paternal one,
so the author needs feedback
from the matches here as to whether they match each other here or not.
To the right, Hunter shows Worrell ancestry and is distantly
related by the author's paternal grandmother's maternal grandmother. He also has Wilson ancestry which is
probably Clan Gunn which the author has over his Jamison/Huss match range on chr 10. Some of the other matches
with the author be over a Frye/Wilson collateral line, which has not been established yet. But the longer match on
chr 10 seems to be Worrell DNA.
|The graphics of this group have been moved to compHarrisDouglas.htm
to speed up this page. Updates in findings on common ancestry in the group will be made only there.
The group of 36 matches in common with Douglas Harris, who shares Overton ancestry with the author. Helen Walls shows a Cypert/Johnson/Talley line with an Anderson branch, while the author's collateral Overton lines have a large early Anderson branch with Talley intermarriages. Another pedigree seems to connect this Talley line as a diminutive form of Tayloe which goes back to a marriage of John Tayloe to Alice Gascoigne, who seem to be identical with the author's direct ancestors, John Taylor and Alice Gascoigne. Even more surprising is that Walls also has a Proctor line, while the author's Gascoignes have a collateral Middleton/Witham/Proctor branch.
|This is a small group of only three matches in common with Pautenis. William Howard was included
in the comparison as some relation to Graham Howard seemed likely.
His match with Diffey on chr 5 and Pautenis on chr 2 makes common ancestry seem likely.
The match with Graham Howard on chr 10 makes it seem likely that there is some Howard
ancestry involved in these segments, while the segmentsmatching Pautenis but not coinciding with the segments
matching the others is more likely to be Woodward DNA.
Pautenis shows Woodward, Mason and Boon ancestry, while Scranage shows Johnson.
The group of matches in common with Scranage tallies 25, but does not include Diffey,
which indicates that more than one (pair of) ancestors is involved in this group and that
Pautenis, Diffey and the author share one that Scranage does not. Scranage is likely to share
the Johnson collateral branch of the author's Fry/Jamison marriage,
while the author's Huss/Sill/Woodward line<7a> comes in later.
To the right is a comparison of matches of known Woodward descent + Diffey.
Only the match on chr 5 and 12 indicate that Diffey shares common ancestry with the others.
The matches with Slack on chr 5 could also be Eastern European DNA although to the right of the middle one seems to be
native American on the author's ethnic distribution chart.
The match on chr 13 with Diffey seems to be West Asian with a transition to either North Sea or Atlantic going right,
which would be compatible with the theory that
the Frye and Huss ancestries in the above links were Hussite and ultimately descendants of Orthodox missionaries in Bohemia,
since some West Asians are likely to have found their way to Constantinople and Kiew before the Orthodoy missions began.
Second to the right, Diffey shares a group of 17 matches in common with the author including Reynolds, who
shares Workman ancestry with the author and possibly Lawrence as well as having a Johnson line.
Hawkins-Chapman shows Wade, Smith, Bacon, Moore, Andrews, Wright, Wyatt,
Harrison, McCarty, Walls, Carter and Taylor.
Although there is a collateral McCarty line in author's double Pope descent, there is also one in
his Jamison/Huss/Sill descent too.
To the right is a comparison of matches of known Woodward descent + Diffey. Only the match on chr 5 and 12 indicate that Diffey shares common ancestry with the others. The matches with Slack on chr 5 could also be Eastern European DNA although to the right of the middle one seems to be native American on the author's ethnic distribution chart.
The match on chr 13 with Diffey seems to be West Asian with a transition to either North Sea or Atlantic going right, which would be compatible with the theory that the Frye and Huss ancestries in the above links were Hussite and ultimately descendants of Orthodox missionaries in Bohemia, since some West Asians are likely to have found their way to Constantinople and Kiew before the Orthodoy missions began.
Second to the right, Diffey shares a group of 17 matches in common with the author including Reynolds, who shares Workman ancestry with the author and possibly Lawrence as well as having a Johnson line.
Hawkins-Chapman shows Wade, Smith, Bacon, Moore, Andrews, Wright, Wyatt, Harrison, McCarty, Walls, Carter and Taylor. Although there is a collateral McCarty line in author's double Pope descent, there is also one in his Jamison/Huss/Sill descent too., and the occurance of the name Greenberry in her Jacobs line indicates some connection with the author's Howards.
|This is a group of 17 matches in common with Miller.
The siblings Miller and Bentley have Berryman ancestry, which the author has on his double Pope/Foote/Berryman/Newton/Tucker line. One of these two lines is shared by the author's second cousin, Bland/Pope/Foote line rather than the Nicholas/Pope/Foote line. He also matches them on chr 4, so we have to do with either Berryman, Newton or Tucker DNA there too.
However, there are some contradictory reports about maternal Allerton lines in this Berryman/Newton/Tucker complex in Westmoreland Co. And Isaac Allerton, the Virginia progenitor, married Elizabeth Willoughby, etc.
Kellum, who does not match Miller and Bentley on any segment that the author does, probably shares ancestry with them that the author does not,
which gets him into the match group. But he does show Fowler ancestry, while Fowler was a
collateral line off the author's Nicholas/Carter/Ludlow/Windsor/Andrews line,
but he does not show any of the characteristic matching segments as yet identified for this family.
be a variant spelling of Kellam, which is on the author's Jamison/Huss/Sill/Kellam
line, while the Sill branch of this line goes back to the same Owen Colonna whom the author shares
doubly over his two Willoughby/Warrington/Colonna lines.
To the right, Smith shows a paternal line of originally Phillips and maternally only Price,
which the author has as a collateral line off his
double Pope line,
while the former is a direct line off his double Duncan/Gallop/Phillips line.
The match on chr is relatively long and speaks for a relationship around 6th to eighth cousin,
which we would
have in a Pope relationship, although a Phillips connection would not be that much
Fourth to the right, Gilchrest shows McAlister, Smith, Fox and Robinson ancestry as well as other Scottish names that might involve descent from Clan Gunn, i.e. Wilson, Robinson, Jamison, Henderson, Nelson to name just a few of the clan septs. Except for the segment on chr 8, which may be from the author's McAlisterWhite
Fifth to the right, we see a subgroup of 4 matches in common with Leov.
|This is a group of 16 matches in common with Shuler. At G13 Nicholas is a common ancestor with other ancient connection possible over Willis and Norreis. But this line also settled in Chester Co Pa, where relations with the author's collateral Pyle, Vernon lines as well as directer Hester, Gilbert, Worrall, McConnell and Woodward lines were possible.|
|This is a group of 17 matches in common with Sandra Hall, and like most of the other groups
more than one pair of ancestors seem
to be involved. Barnum is also included in the group Nash
and shares Pyle DNA on chr 16,
as a collateral branch of the author's Pyle ancestry
settled in Chester Co Pa.
Clemens is also in the Coster group.
Daugherty is also in the McNeely group.
To the right, Finney is also in a group in common with the
author's 4th cousin,
for McLean there is also a separate group.
The longer match on chr 10 with Hall, Campbell, Clemens, Ferrara-Hammerle, King, Mattingly, McLean, Montgomery, Pettis, Taylor and White indicates common ancestry in the range of G4 to G8.
The interpretation of the matches on chr 12 is a bit complicated: other comparisons indicate that the author's maternal DNA here evidences three distinctive segments of Taylor ancestry with no continuous segment of that origin, i.e. clear breaks of some other DNA inbetween. On the other hand his paternal DNA seems to be Owens/Kenton/Miller across the range of the left Taylor segment and becomes Hester, Wright, Gilbert or Christian in the gap before the middle Taylor segment and continues as such across the middle Taylor segment including the gap before the right Taylor segment but not necessarily extending across it. Clemens' match in exactly this Taylor gap might be on the author's maternal side. If so it would be the same as the DNA from the spouse of one one of the author's direct Taylor line ancestors, of which the author's maternal grandmother had four lines to Thomas Taylor and Margaret Swinderby. The simplest guess here would be the following generation Elizabeth Nin b ca 1610 in Hadleigh, Suffolkshire, as she is common for all 4 lines. This short segment also overlaps with the Hester range of Barnum and Campbell so it may also be Hester, Wright, Gilbert or christian DNA.
The strange thing, however, that this group includes clear paternal DNA in this range and several matches of obvious Pa Quaker and/or German Mennonite descent on the one hand and a Taylor descendant and one with Swinderby descent on the other. So there must be further ancestors that the author may not share bringing two subgroups together.
|This is a group of 13 matches in common with Keiser. Characteristic for this group
are matches on chr 2, 10, 11 and 12. Of this group King shares only Mason in her own group of 26 common ancestors,
while Mason shares 24 matches with the author, of whom only King and Keiser out of these two groups are included.
So several different ancestors are the donors of this array of matching DNA segments and not all the matches
in any of the aforesaid groups share all of these ancestors and the author almost certainly does not share all
the ancestors that any two in these groups share with each other.
Several in the group share shorter segment with the author on chr 2 within a longer range that the author shares over his maternal grandmother with various Fontaine descendants, a French Huguenot family. So unless these matches are on the author's paternal side we have to do with Fontaine or the maternal line off that family, Wade.
The short match somewhat to the right of the middle on chr 5 is shared by some Fontaine descendants but also by Frye descendant's in the author's maternal grandfather's maternal grandmother's maternal grandmother's 1/64th sector of ancestors, who were Moravian Church members or successors of the Hussites and near Zurich around 1650, while Calvin also came from Switzerland the the Hussites fled from Prague in the 15th century to all non-Hapsburg parts of Europe presumably including France. So these apparently contradictory matches are likely to find their reconciliation in the presumption that it is simply Hussite DNA. A close look at the author's ethnic origin for this range is Eastern Europe and East Mediterranean, while Bohemia was converted to Christianity by Orthodox missionaries who, by the way, broke with Rome on the question of celibacy for priests. So if this ethnic analysis is correct the earliest ancestor involved came from Greece or Constantinople with intermediate generations in the second half of the first millennium in the Kiev area and ancestry among the earliest Christians may be expected.
Keiser's match more to the right on chr 10 extends over a short segment identified as Powhatan or Potawomeck DNA, as does the segment shared with Rhodes in part, although this is enclosed on both sides with North Sea DNA. This indicates that Keiser shares the author's descent from chief Wahanganoche as well as the following 2 to 4 generations, while Rhodes probably only shares the first one or two generations of this descent.
The longer match more to the left on chr 10 with King also matches Crandall in part and is adjacent to another match with Keiser here and indicates that this is from the spouse of the some ancestor along this line of decent, probably the next generation after the last common ancestor shared with Keiser.
To the right, R C Johnson matches on a segment of Andrews DNA on chr 16 and matches Burke on one of the latter's matching segments on chr 18, which has yet to be identified.
|This is a group of 17 matches in common with the author's X chr match, Watson.
So both have a
line of descent from ancestor with no two males in succession.
Third to the right the long matching segment with Lepard on chr 4 is most likely from a yet to be determined Mitchell or Posey ancestor born about 1730 who may have immigrated to NY, NJ, Pa or VA. Lepard also appears in the group in common with Cartwright et al. Ethnically the segment must be mostly North Sea DNA, but includes a short bit of Esat Med to the left of the middle and a short range East Med and/or West Asian to the right of the middle. Judging from the length, these would be from a marriage around 1500 to 1600 and is likely to have been brought by Hussite refugees, who probably inherited it from the Orthodox missionaries who converted Bohemia to Christianity. The realignment with Mitchell DNA, which would be Scottish and North Sea or Orcadian farther back may have to do with the Irish Plantations under Cromwell, which brought unlanded people from all over England, Wales and Scottland to settle in Ireland.
|Stevens shares 16 matches with the author as well as
and possibly Duncan and Gilbert descent.
The Steven's left matching segments on chr 1 and 7 also match the Dusenberys, and Nicholas on chr 11, all known Andrews descendants (see sixth screenshot to the right). Additional bars for chr 12 have been added in the comparison in the sixth frame on the right to shed light on the origin of the left of three "Taylor" segments on chr 12. Nicholas shares the author's quadruple Taylor descent in the author's maternal grandmother's quarter. Atkisson is presumably a cousin in the author's maternal grandfather's maternal grandmother's 1/16th sector. This very narrow segment is shared by Fiedler, but Orr shares a segment to the left of it. It seems to be Eastern European DNA on the right edge of a range that the author has on both sides of his family. This is presumably Gilbert DNA paternally but maternally Frye DNA except for the last 1 cM before we encounter North Sea DNA preumably Jamison maternally. For Nicholas this last 1 cM is the same, but for him a mixed range of EE and East Med DNA begins which is presumably for him a longer segment of Taylor DNA. For genealogical interpretation, This may be Swinderby DNA (the wife of Thomas Taylor b 1573 in Hadleigh Suffolk, or it may stem from the wife of the martyr, Rev. Rowland Taylor, who is alledged to have been a Tyndale. Under the duress of inquisition the martyr admitted to have married her in the house of JOhn Tyndale of London but would not divulge more details about her. As the possession of a Tyndale Bible bore the sentence of being burned at the stake in those days, it would not be farfetched to suspect that she was the daughter of William Tyndale, whose family would have been hidden after he was burned at the stake. This Tyndale line has Piast ancestry Sir Simon Bigod de Felbrigge b c 1355 standard bearer to King Richard II, and his wife, Margaret of Semovitz or Primislaw, a Piast lady in waiting to Queen Anne. It is far too early to assume this is the source of this particular DNA segment, but the find does render a degree of plausibility to the legend of this descent.
Stevens and the author both must have some Potawomack or Powhatan DNA, but neither of the the author's ethnic distribution charts which have been blended in fifth and sixth to the right indicate that we match on them.
Scott shares Hester, Wright, Gilbert and Christian descent with the author but obviously Scott descent with some of the other matches in this group.
To the right,
Second to the right, Potter has definite Sisson relationship, likely Payne and probably remote
McFarland relationship with the author, and his
Poindexter - Crawford ancestral marriage has been encountered in some other collateral line that the author
cannot find at the moment.
Third to the right, Slack has an Elis ancestor, which seems to be a variant of Ellis. She also has a James Scott b 1800 in Ireland, so it is apparent that this group probably also includes Scott ancestry, which the author does not share. Comparisons done from Scott's and Slack's CBs might reveal the DNA segments they share from Scott ancestry, which cannot appear in the author's CB. Slack also has a double Andrews line to go with her Andrews DNA on chr 11.
Fifth to right, the first comparison to the right is redone with the author's ethnic distribution bars added. The various kinds of displays have rather diverging ethnic assignments, so this is rather questionable.
|This is a group of 12 matches in common with Adamson.
The matching segment on chr 16 with Adamson as well as Jarrell, Lampi Wyatt are adjacent to the right of a characteristic match for Andrews DNA,
so it may be from a spouse along the author's Nicholas/Carter/Ludlow/deWindsor/Andrews line,
unless it is a match on the author's paternal side.
Second and third to the right, Nicholas (author's 2nd cousin) and Dusenbery are not in this group but known Andrews descendants. While Dusenbery only matches others in this group on a few very commonly matching segments on chr 12 and 10, Nicholas also matches the others on some mor seldom segments that seem to be the aforesaid spuse DNA. For both the total matching DNA is sub threshold for the others in the group, but the coinciding segments do seem to be actual matches and not just paternal/maternal superimposures.
|This is a group of 30 matches in common with
Prater, whose closest common ancestors
were easily recognized. What appears to be Prather or Sprigg DNA on chr 13 and possibly on chr 2, is not shared
by Carroll, who shares Barbee and Catlett ancestry with the author. But there are collateral Prather
lines with Carroll intermarriages.
Third to right, some of the author's ethnic distribution bars have been blended in to get an idea,
which ethnic source the matching segments might have. However, it is uncertain whether the upper or lower part of the respective bar applies,
as both paternal and maternal sides are reflected by the colored bars. In the case of the
presumed Prather DNA, the name ist derived from the Latin title, praetor for city director or mayor, while the author's paternal side family has
no hint Latin or French roots except his Gilberts and what might be among his ancient Willoughby line.
Sixth to the right, this group of common matches does not include Hayes and Nicholas, who as 2nd cousins of the author's Nicholas quarter do share the author's only line of Prather descent,
|This is a group of 12 matches in common with Swope.
The longer match with Williams on chr 1 indicates that he shares Jamison/Huss ancestry with the author, which is Clan Gunn at both ends and Eastern European in the middle. But he also shares Andrews DNA on chr 11, as does Sullivan, while Yager shares another Andrews segment on chr 16. This gives rise to the thought, that the rather Scottish sounding name, Andrews might somehow be associated with Clan Gunn. The Andrews family seems to have appeared in the area of Ipswitch, Suffolk, around 1300, while the septs of Clan Gunn, Jamison, Wilson, Robinson, Nelson, Henderson, Robertson just to name a few, formed following the murder of George Gunn, Crowner of Caithness, and several of his sons in August 1464. Gunn or Orcadian DNA is a mixture of Pictish, Viking and Scots DNA which arose following the settlement of the Orkney Islands by the Vikings where a local Norse language arose that was spoken into the 18th century.
To the right, the longest match with Swope is also shared by Fisher, who is also in group with Hendricks. Fisher also shares a short segment on chr 12, which is to the left of the typical left segment of three distinct Segments from the marriage of Thomas Taylor b 1572/3 in Suffolk and Margaret Swinderby b 1578 in Copenhagen. Bothe of these short segments chr 12 are in a longer range of DNA that is Eastern European on both sides of the author's family. This EE DNA is attributed to either the Orthodox missionaries who converted Bohemia to Christianity and became the ancestors of the 15th century Hussites, who were driven to all parts of non-Hapsburg Europe and became the ancestors of many other 16th century Protestants, on the one hand, or possibly a descent from Yaroslav the Wise of Kiev either through the marriage of his daughter Anna to Henri I, King of France and from thence to the Kings and nobility of early England or via the marriage of King Kazimierz Karol I and Dobronega of Kiev to Maragret of Semovitz, the Sir Simon Bigod, who accompanied Elizabeth of Bohemia to England on her way to marry King Richard II.
|Kueber shares the author's double Duncan descent but only Proctor as a common match,
while Proctor shares
27 matches with the author. So some of the author's matches are likely to
be below the threshold for appearing
on Kueber's match list but do match him on some segments.
Proctor may also share (partly) other ancestors with the author.
And DNA realignment quirks may play a role here too.
|Dawson shares only 26 cM of DNA and 27 matches with the author as well as two lines of Prather descent making him a double 5th cousin.
Tye on the other hand shares the author's more remote Terrelldescent thrice. but the ancient family seats of these two families in Water Eaton and Reading were not far apart making some connection in southern England likely as an explanation for the six matches on chr 19.
Fugate ancestry is shared by Dawson (over his Prather lines) and another in the group, but not by the author.
|McElroy shares 56.54 cM of matching DNA and 18 matches with the author (originally over 60 matches were shown,
but there seems to be a filter glitch at present that eliminates matches like Hendricks and Settles) or then that mistakenly included them.
Of these, Armstrong has a Dorsey line,
a Mitchell (author's paternal grandfather's mothers name) line going back to
Castlestrange Roscommon IRE; and Froehlich is included, but not his grandfather,
Penner, who is a closer match for the author and probably shares ancestry remotely on the male line back in the
Mennonite/Hussite community of East Frisia. A Petersen is also named in the Mennonite archives, although nothing else is known indicating that
the Petersen in this group is actually related.
The horizontal distribution along the chromosome displays may not be the same for the CB and Eurogenes Ethnic Distribution displays, so the
ethnic interpretation is more an art than a science here. This applies all the more, as the uthor's paternal and maternal chromosomes are displayed in both, while
the matching segments are generally on the one or the other and only half of the display in a specific range can apply for the matching segment.
Hence input is needed from those in this group in the form of getting their own corresponding free Eurogenes analysis from www.gedmatch.com after registering there.
To the right, although Settles and Hendricks are not in the group, settles is in a group with Hendricks and shares a Settle(s)/Strother descent with Proctor as well as a DNA segment on chr 5 with these two and McElroy, while these two lines are not shared by the author, so some other maternal line after or before the Strothers/Settles marriage that the author does share is likely to lead to the common ancestery. Apparently the matching DNA in this range is below the threshold for McElroy to get on Hendricks's match list and vice versa.
Third to the right, the inclusion of Froehlich in this group indicates that the other matches on chr 12 are not the autor's maternal Taylor DNA, but his paternal Hester DNA, while the X chr match with McAlister proves that common ancestry with her is to be found on the author's maternal side. So more than on ancester (pair) is in volved in forming this group of common matches.
Fourth to the right, the longer match with Petersen on chr 1 seems to be the
author's maternal grandfather's maternal grandmother's Jamison/Huss ancestral DNA,
which is fully in accord with the X chr match with Cress. But Petersen has an Armstrong line with a maternal Elliott branch, which we also see in Joseph's nephew's Si9-4 marriage.
As the right segment matching Cress on chr 1 is adjacent to the Jamison/Huss segment matching Cress, it seems that both segments together
comprise a longer segment that arose with the Jamison/Frye marriage in the the author's ancestry and hence is Frye DNA,
as probably is the left matching segment.
Hendricks and Settle are not matches shared by McElroy, but although not in each other's match groups, Proctor and Settles are both Strother descendants, and Settles is in the match group shared by Hendricks. So the apparent matches on chr 5 are probably paternal/maternal superimposure from the author's perspective.
Wawczak shares 22 matches with the author. The matching segments with him are very short indicating rather remote common ancestry.
Her matches on chr 1 are in the Jamison/Huss range. She also shows Taylor and Thompson ancestry in Scotland until the early 19th century.
White's matching segment on chr 20 is longer than the segment identified as Cary DNA by the match with Self indicating either a close relationship on his part or a match on the author's paternal side.
Wiley's longer match covers both that of Wawczak and Yager, while Yager matches on an Andrews segment on chr 16 (very short, disappeared in display reduction) and Stoffa matches on a Pyles segment on chr 6.
To the right the two Smiths share the same paternal lines including a Wingfield - Buckner marriage.
|Jones shares 39 matches and 132,3 cM of DNA with the author and seems to be a 3rd cousin or 2nd cousin once or twice removed.
But there seems to be more than one ancestor (couple) involved in forming the group of matches, so some in the group
may not share the ancestors responsible for the longer segments matching Jones, but share other ancestors and DNA with Jones that
the author does not share.
Match names are: Willis Albert Adkins; Sandra Kay Anderson; Pamala Ann Bader; Vicki Beaver; Tamara Booth; Floyd L Brown (shares author's Gilbert ancestry, possibly, haplo R1b Hester, I2 Hester, MD Brown, VA Brown, carr/?Overton, Moriarty as well); Peter James; Tami Campbell; Jeffrey Day (matches on Jamison/Huss segment on chr 1, while this line also has a Maternal Frye line off the Jamisons); Daniel Gordon Douglas; Joseph Franklin Dunkin; David Ray Dunn; Frank George (has Raines collateral of Owens?); Linda Lou Gjording; Eugene J. Griffith-McDaniels (Griffth, Owens, Willoughby, Kenton and Miller descendant); Elizabeth Hanson; John E Harris; Ian Holloway; Anne Elizabeth Irwin; Margaret Irwin; Roxie Bass Johnson; Willie R Kearley (Latimer ancestry); Robert Lee Kerr; Michele Yvonne King; Karen Kaye Larsen; Mary Ellen Strait ( also in Givens group below, which may be due to a Willoughby descent); Charles McCauley H. McCauley; Raymond Thomas Miller; Connie Money, an Owings descendant; Fporrest Louden Minor (Owens and Frye descendant); Daniel Michael Parrish; Marilyn Ruth Rice; Richard Micheal Sohrwide; John Watkins; Mr. Ezra B. Watnik and Susan L. Willis;
With Minor and Griffith-McDaniels related off the maternal line of the author's paternal grandfather's paternal grandfather, the ancestry involved must at least in part be in this 1/32nd or respectively 1/64th sector, although Jones line in the author's more paternal sector here, whose descendants are as yet unaccounted for.
There is also an unaccounted for collateral Jones line in the Owens pedigree, into which Jones's line has been provisionally guesstimated despite the indications of a closer relationship.
The match with Jones on chr 19 seems to predate the Hester/Gilbert marriage, discussed farther to the right. But the match with George adjoining it on the right is more likely to be from the Hester/Mitchell marriage a generation later and either go into the Mitchell or the author's other Hester line (I2), the one probably shared by Brown.
The matches on chr 12 are a bit complicated: The author has three segments apparently from the martyr, Rev Dr. Roland Taylor and his wife, Margaret ?Tyndale over his maternal grandmother. While the segment matching Minor seems to be mostly over there author's maternal grandfather and lies in a range that seems to be mostly East European from their Moravian Church Frye line. On the author's paternal side, spanning the range from the edge of this EE segment there is a longer segment covering more than the range of the middle and right Taylor segments which is apparently R1b Hester/Mennonite DNA.
With Brown sharing the author's Gilbert ancestry, it seems that Jones shares the the Jones descent from the descent from John Hester and Margaret Gilbert, and that the Hester in the Gilbert ancestry was not the same Hester line, but that of the haplo I2 line which the author shares from the marriage of the following Hester generation. The Andrews DNA on chr 11 is on the author's side, so here it is either something else from the author's paternal side or by chance some other connection in the matches ancestry. There are indications that various Scottish lines match here and thus that the Andrews line of Suffolk came about the time Robert the Bruce carried out his campaign against the Commyn supporters around 1300
|Butler (original English/Irish without direct American ancestry) may share more than one ancestral line with the author at G7 to G15, possbly Wright and Taylor.||
Money is an Owings descendant (not the Owens line of the other matches) and a sibling along this line was baptized "Butler".
|Givens shares 20 DNA matches and Andrew Harrison/Mary Lovell ancestry
The match names are: Thomas Richard Bolin; Joe Baxter Brown; 7318 Buckmaster; Barbara L Davidson Robert Elam; Edna Doris Fuller; Herman Frederick Haggerty; James Hickman (may share Windsor/Andrews DNA); Catherine Hughes; Bobby Harold Johnson; Linda Regalado Jones; Martha Carter Kirby; Jason Lamar Noble; Randy O'Guin; Elizabeth Reckers; Cynthia L. Shelton; Robert Simpson; Mary Ellen Strait (also in Jones group above, which may be due to a remote Willoughby descent); Don Whitehouse and Shirley Wildhaber.
|Money shares 25 DNA matches and Owings ancestry. She also has Jones,
which might explain her appearance in that group of matches though hardly any of the matches there are in this group.
Fifth to the right, Nelson has an Owen line that is likely to be Owings and a maternal Norwood line from there that leads to the author's Prather and Owings lines. The strong family ties here make a Owen/Owings connection likely too. However, her long match on chr 1 is a range where the author has Jamison/Huss DNA on his maternal side
A row is also dedicated to matches withFreeman
A row is also dedicated to matches with Jones
Smith also appears in a row of Arnett matches. She does not show exact descent, but does show a Rains line that could be a collateral of the author's Owens line.
|Blackstock shares 32 matches and Barbee and
hence Catlett ancestry with the author. But other ancestors are probably
involved in forming the group, as we see segments involved with Taylor,
Andrews, Cary, Jamison/Huss and Owens.
Not all in this group are likely to share all these ancetors.
Fifth to the right, McKee has a close Hester descent probably the I2 Hesters and not the R1b Hesters. So the longer match on chr 4 shared only by Martin (fourth to the right) is probably Hester DNA. However, while there are no known Martin branches of the former Hesters, there are Martin branches in the latter.
Sixth to the right, Wayne Smith shares Bland ancestry with the author, obviously at the same point where his Duncan/Withers/Barbee descent comes in. There seem to be matches between Blackstock and R Smith on chr 1 and 10, but thes disappear in his CB and his matches with Blackstock are elsewhere, so his matches with the author on said segments are obviously on the author's paternal side.
Seventh to the right, Robert Smith shares only 20.59 cM of DNA
Eighth to the right, the match with Williams coincides to about half with a match range with Self who shares the author's maternal Cary and paternal Owens ancestry. So it is not yet entirely certain as to which of the two lines the DNA is to be attributed. But She also shares another longer segment, which because of the closer relationship is more likely to be Owens DNA; this segment is short enough to expect the Cary relationship at G11.
Farley is also in the match group with Boston, an Andrews descendant.
Self shares remote Cary ancestry in the author's maternal grandmother's paternal grandfather's 1/16th sector as well as Owens ancestry in his paternal grandfather's paternal sector. So the longer segment on chr 10 is more likely Owens DNA, while the segment on chr 20 seems to be Cary DNA.
as seen from Robert Smith's CB
|Smith shares 41 matches with the author, but only 20.59 cM of DNA and several rather short matching DNA segments,
so numerous but remote common ancestry is involved. Although he is included in the group of matches in common with
Blackstock, who seems to share Barbee and Catlett ancestry with the author's
maternal grandfather's paternal eigth sector such as Sullivan as a collateral branch of the author's Duncan/Gallop/Bryant line,
he seems to share Workman ancestry in the author's paternal grandmother's quarter, Jamison in the author's
maternal grandfather's maternal grandmother's 1/16th sector
and other ancestry perhaps Garland in the author's maternal grandmother's and
paternal grandfather's respective paternal or rather maternal eigth sectors such as the author's Workman line.
Garland brings further complication as it is the
Irish form of the name Gernon which shows up multiply in the earlier generations.
Osborne has Andrews ancestry D. Allen Virginia S. Barnett Joseph Del Barrus Robert Paul Barrus M. Bascom Deborah Blackstock John Brooks 7318 Buckmaster Deborah Cromer Callicott has Windsor, Wicker, Netherton heather chase Gray Carpenter Church Darrin James Cook William Blair Denman James Paul Faust Dawn Feltus Norman Flurry John Bruce Gann P. Gardner Kerene Grbac Linda B. Hartley Rebecca Sue Hatchett Kathleen Hayes (my second cousin once removed by my maternal grandmother plus some as yet unknown connection on my father’s side, presumably the I2 haplogroup Hesters, not my male line R1b… Hesters) Martha Carter Kirby (she also has some ancestry in my mat. grandmother’s that I have not entirely pinned down yet, but there must be something paternal too) Christopher Adam Kovacs Alicia L Kovacs Karen Kaye Larsen Nancy Linder John G. Mullenneix Nancy Owen Nelson Jessica Danielle Nickell Willie (Bill) D. Osborne Edward Pruett Richard Lawrence Rood Memory Sawyer Patrice Roxanne Sykes Penni McDaniel Elaine Walter Keith Whitehurst Nellie Irene Whitted/Reif Dorotha B. Willis
as seen from Robert Smith's CB
|Borad is a Mitchell descendant from the immediate area of the author's Mitchell ancestors
and shares 21 matches with the author.
Many in this group are also in the Cole group.
As discussed above, the match on chr 20 is a range, where the author matches Self, an established ninth cousin on the author's maternal Cary line but also more closely related on his paternal Ovens line, so additional pedigree work is needed to establish which of the two this segment is from. However, some of the collateral Owens branches also connect with author's maternal grandfather's a native American line which might explain some of the matches in this group.
First to the right, Gabbard shows Redmond/Redman ancestry which may be a native American line.
Second to the right, there were Jetts in the Robertson/Bracken County area related to the author's Hester line there, as well as a collateral line of both the author's paternal Owens line and double descent from Pocahontas over his maternal grandfather.
Fourth to the right,
|Becker shares 23 DNA matches, 43.84 cM of DNA and remote
Thruston and possibly Workman ancestry with the author
as well as Cary and possibly either Brown MD or Brown VA.
Brown shares Duncan Ancestry at G8.
Second to the right, Curtis nee Hays shares Halstead at G11 and G10, Ivey at G13, Knyvett/Chamberlaine at G20,
Blount at G17, Raleigh at G15, Halstead, Taylor
at G10, Andrews at G15 and Duncan ancestry at G11 with the author, bringing the dilemma of choice for tagging matching segments.
The match with her on chr 12 is known as Taylor DNA from other comparisons on this page. The one on chr 19 is the longest and hence most likely from the closest ancestor,
which seems to be Duncan or Taylor. The very short matches with Curtis can be from any one of these remoter common ancestors.
Third to the right, Johnson shows Owens ancestry, while Bridges (sixth to the right) with Duncan ancestry, also shares the Minor brothers as common matches who also have Owens ancestry, while Bridges (sixth to the right) with Duncan ancestry, also shares the Minor brothers as common matches who also have , while Bridges (sixth to the right) with Duncan ancestry, also shares the Minor brothers as common matches who also have Owens ancestry. So Owens and Duncan ancestry seem to be part of the make up of this group.
Fourth to the right, Robinson is one of the septs of Clan Gunn, although not all Robinsons descend from this clan. It is also likely that some Duncan DNA segments include some Gunn DNA.
|Jackowiak, the author's third cousin shares 103.35 cM of DNA and 44 matches with the author as well as Workman ancestry, as do Reynolds, Dial and Mallony.
The matches on chr 15 show a longer matching segment with Jackowiak and Dial exactly between the two segment matching Reynolds.
This gives the impression that Reynolds gotten some spouse DNA in the segment between his two matching segments here in the
next generation or three after his line branches off the author's Workman line,
while the ends of this longer segment of the author's got spoused off for Jackowiak and one end and part of the middle for Dial.
Dial is also included in the
William Griffth match group.
It seems reasonable to believe that author has a longer Workman segment where all of these matching segments are, as another Workman descendan, Lynn Ingalls matches on the left half of this segment and on a short segment where the longer matches with Jackowiak and Dial are, this entire segment of the author's as tagged must come from the common ancestors of all named. Tagging this longer segment as Workman DNA includes the possibility that part of it still may be from a spouse before G5, but Woodruff-Fricke seems to be the more remote cousin in this screenshot, so her match with Reynolds and Dial on chr 15 seems to be either from the a Workman at G9 or G10 or the respective spouse.
We see a similar effect for Reynolds and Mallony on chr 10 and on chr 5 with Reynolds and Jackowiak.
Reynolds may also share Lawrence ancestry with the authors, so further conclusions are not possible on his other matching segments yet.
However, Workman is hardly the only ancestral line involved in forming this group. The names Thompson, Webb,
Moore, and Riggs and Posey
seem to play a role, so the author needs input on these lines to fill in the unknown ancestors, siblings and collateral branches in these pedigrees to be able to
find the common ancestry. For all of the names except Riggs and Posey, the author already has known direct ancestral lines.
Some in the group evidence Andrews DNA segments. the author's registered pedigree here goes back to a couple born in the 1360's to a progenitor in Suffolk whose
father is likely to have been a supporter of the Comyns and had to leave Scotland when Robert the Bruce became King of Scotland, so many may have this DNA
over other Highland clan names.
A few in this group are also in the Alderman group below.
To the right, the long match with Boles on chr 5 is exactly between the two segments matching Ingalls, indicating that after she branches off, other DNA was spoused in on her line, because Jackowiak still matches the author here, or that this is spoused in at G6 from Christiana Fitzpatrick Fi6, also Jackowiak's ancestor, whom Ingalls and Reynolds do not share.
Third to the right, Coffman matches over a longer range on chr 12 that seems to be the author's direct male line and from the 16th century Mennonite community of East Frisia.
Fourth to the right, from the aforesaid it seems that with the matche on chr 15 Greene must share Workman ancestry with the author.
Fifth to the right, Hawkins evidences the Andrews DNA segment on chr 16, as Herrinton does on chr 11.
Ninth to the right, O'Guin may share a Cox descent with Kicera.
|Alderman shares 48.15 cM of DNA and 22 DNA matches with the author
as well as possibly Nicholas and/or Pyles,
her Alderman line may be a Worrall collateral line
and her Grimes line may be a collateral line of many of the author's pedigrees.
Campbell has a Howard/Heyward line that mit Howard or Hayward, a Womack/Mitchell line (This links to my line, not hers yet. The Scottish Mitchells are all basically related, but some might branch off as far back as G25, making the relationship rather insignificant for an autosomal match), a Farrar/Jefferson line (The Jeffersons are on a rather remote collateral branch at about G17, but at the moment, I cannot remember exactly which pedigree shows this).
A few in this group are also in the Jackowiak group above, which centers on but is not limited to the
common Workman ancestry in the author's paternal grandmother's maternal 1/8th ancestral sector.
To the right Graham is also included in the
Second to the right, Kirby shares the author's remoter Nicholas, Carter, Ludlow and Armistead lines (all in his maternal grandmother's paternal grandfather's 1/16th sector; if this were a factor in forming this group, one of the author's 2nd cousins of this quarter, would probably show up here!), but apparently also a Kallam/?Kellam line, which is in his maternal grandfather's maternal grandmother's 1/16th Jamison sector.
|Halstead shares 41.19 cM of DNA and 30 matches with the author.
Presuming we see her maidenname, common ancestry may be expected in Halstead,
with which the author's double Willoughby line connects at G9, as well as a
But the relatively short matching DNA segments indicate
that the closest common ancestor may be more remote than G11.
Fifth to the right, Salinas is also an X chr match with the author and believe to share Jamison/Huss ancestry with the author. The longer match with her on chr 1 is a mixture of Northsea DNA at both ends attributed to the Jamison line and a mixture of East European and East Mediterranean DNA in the middle attributed to the Huss line as likely descendants of the Hussites and before that to the Orthodox missionaries who converted Bohemian to Christianity a thousand years ago. The Huss line is still missing about 8 generations to extablish this connection though.
|Crockett shares 24.84 cM of DNA and 28 matches
with the author including Boston. Crockett has Harris and Nicholson
possibly Wade and Larkin ancestry, as well as a Cornwell line. While the latter name does
occur among the author's Prathers.
Carr is a name that shows up in my Garland line and she has MacKay and Buchanan ancestry. While the longer match with her on chr 5 seems to be either Prather or Terrell DNA, the one on chr 11 is adjacent to the right of the most typical Andrews segment suggesting it is from a spouse of someone along the author's Nicholas to Andrews line which would be Matilda Prather, in whom the Prather and Terrell lines come together.
Similarly Cooley's match on chr 20 is adjacent on the left side of a segment that has been Identified as Cary DNA again indicating DNA from a spouse along the author's Cary line, which again could be the same Nicholas - Prather marriage.
Coker has a Thompson line
There are a few Bruner collateral lines among the author's Prathers, as are there Harding lines there as possible common ancestry with Miller Williams lines as possible common ancestry with Williams, and Wilson lines as possible common ancestry with Wilson (although he also shows Terrell ancestry). Cooper's Terrell ancestry has been noted and other DNA comparisons made with Wilson Their match on chr 5 is longer than the others in this group indicating common ancestry at about G6 or G7.
Fifth to the right, there are also collateral Williams and Wilson lines among the author's Prathers.
sixth to the right, Walchuk is also in a group with Hendricks, where there are also some Prather descendants.
|Shadeck shares 52.26 cM DNA and 40 matches with the author and shows Strother,
Prather, and Carroll ancestry.
Gary Carter has Owens Carter shows Dorsey Ancestry and is also included in the William Griffith maqtch group.
To the right, Copher shares Pope ancestry with the author at G12.
Second to the right, Hatchett's Carroll descent is known as is Freeman's male line which involves a maternal Posey branch which brances over Outlaw to Anne Ivey Iv12-6-1-2-3-2-3-11 b c 1700 with common ancestry at G13: Thomas Anthony Ivye Esq. Iv13 b 1524, Sodbury, Gloucestershire and Elizabeth Malet, b about 1528 Sodbury Gloucestershire. Furthermore, he has
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|Childress shares 70.40 cM of DNA and 34 matches with the author and - although without details as yet - shows
Mitchell ancestry, as do the Borads, who also share Tucker ancestry with the author and are discussed above.
Bentley is also in the the group of matches shared by Becker, as is another Halstead descendant, Curtis.
First to the right, Fassbinder is also in the group of matches shared by Halstead
Third to the right, as the author's Mitchell line includes a maternal Harris branch the author shares with Harris, several in this group are also in the group of matches the author shares with him. So but for the effects of the Halstead further up on this Mitchell line and some Taylor DNA bringing some into this group, it would be easy to figure out which segments are Harris and which Mitchell DNA. Haynes also appears in the group of matches shared by Alderman, where the likelyhood of ?= Nicholas, Lewis/Workman and Andrews lines is discussed.
Seventh and eighth to the right, Williams evidences a mixed ethnic range on chr 1 that has been provisionally identified as Jamison/Huss DNA, as
This comparison display has been juggled around a bit to include bars showing the author's ethnic distribution along the repective chromosomes. This is difficult to interpret though because both the paternal and maternal DNA is shown on each bar with no preference to top or bottom for either, and the color code legend is a bit ambiguous, as some colors are used for more than one race. For chr 1 it was not possible to blend in the entire ED bar, but the segment where Claxton matches on chr 1 could, as there were no matching segments below it on chr 2. The author's DNA is relatively homozygot along this range, although the ethnic source on the left is more North Caucasian with some Fennoscandian at the left end. In the middle it is central European then more Fennoscadian and what may be East European, Italian or Arabian where Law also matches. Below the segment of K36 ED display here, the end segment of the K15 ED display is blended in. As the surge of central European is also shown but displaced to the left and labled East European, while the North Caucasian is labled North Sea in K15. This shows that the Chromosome Browser, K36 and K15 displays do not have a perfectly linear correspondence and lingual divergence when it comes to designating different ethnic types. So caution is advised for interpretation. Nonetheless, questionable hints on the origin of our remote ancestors are better than none at all. A few more matches in this range show up in the McElroy group and are discussed as evidence of Frye/Markley descent.
|Law shares 40.00 cM of DNA and 36 matches with the author and - although without details as yet - shows
and Carroll ancestry, the latter of which seems to get back to O'Brien
and possible common ancestry at G17.
Others in the group match on one or more of the 7 characteristic Andrews DNA segments, as discussed above in the Boston and Dusenbery groups.
The match on chr 12 seems to be most characteristic for this group.
Bush shows Payne and Taylor ancestry as well as several Dutch and German names that might connect over either the author's maternal or paternal branches but has not uploaded any pedigree data yet. The longer match on chr 10 is in the same range as the author's maternal Andrews segment there indicating a closer relationship somewhere along the author's Bland/Nicholas/Carter/Ludlow/Windsor/Andrews descent line, but only if this is a match on the author's maternal DNA. If, however, on his paternal side
Farist shows McConnell ancestry but in NC not in PA like the author's.
Hawkins shows Howard ancestry in SC but recent enough to connect with the author's Howards in MD as well as Speers in NC that might go back to one of the author's collateral Frye lines.
Klein shows McCarty which may be one the author's collateral Pope lines
Lilly has a Green Line that may connect with the author's multiple Grene/Greene lines.
Sittig has Markley ancestry which probably connects with the author's Jamison/Frye/Markley line.
Mattei shares a DNA segment on chr 20 that is also shared by Self, who shares both Cary and Owens ancestry with the author, which of the two lines this comes from is not known for certain yet, the latter is closer.
|The graphics of this row have been moved to CompMcGeeEdward.htm||McGee shares 76.85 cM of DNA, 47 matches and
Jamison/Huss and Frye ancestry with the author as 4th cousin
as well as possibly somewhat remoter McKay/McKee/MacKay/McKey etc. ancestry.
In addition there are two collateral Frye/Foreman/McGee branches off of Fr8-1-2
and Fr8-1-8 that do not seem to connect with
McGee's direct male line to make him also a 7th cousin, but his McGee line does have a maternal Hardesty branch that seems to predate
the ones marrying into collateral Frye descent lines but might help explain
the inclusion of some matches in this group.
Austin is also in the group shared by Wilson, as is Crumby.
Second to the right, Curtis is in the group shared by Blackstock, which seems to be characterized by Barbee and Catlett descent. Childress matches on a long segment on chr 19 which is interrupted by exactly the segment range that Kingrey (6th t r) and Mellinger (7th t r) match on. this ranged seems to have been "spoused out" in a following generation in the author's line to the common ancestor in question here, while Kingrey seems to share that spouse's ancestry.
Third to the right, Harkey shows Blunt ?=Blount ancestry, with a match on chr 11 exactly adjacent to and left of the segment that the author has from his Windsor/Andrews ancestry from the generation immediately preceeding the Windsor-Blount marriage; so it seems the author has a longer segment of Blount and Andrews DNA here that has been together since Lady Edith Windsor was conceived about 1507 AD.
Fourth to the right, the matches shared by the Hvidstens are discussed above and share
Woodward and Baker ancestry with the author,
clear overlappings on chr 10 and 11 with the author's 3rd cousin in his maternal grandfather's maternal grandmother's maternal grandmother's etc.
doubled 1/256th ancestral sector assures common ancestry in this sector.
The Frye pedigree also includes Hawkins branches,
as McGee's male line has Hawkins and Busey maternal lines. Hawkins is also in the
Fifth to the right, the Irwins are in the Hvidsten and Larry Jones groups respectively, as are Jordan, Landis, Turley and Killian. Mellinger is also in the Isbell group.
Sixth to the right, Lewis shows both Frye ancestry from Saxony-Anhalt
and Levering ancestry and seems to be a double 9th to 11th cousin.
That these two lines should come together in both Germany and Pennsylvania is not likely to be coincidence, but a result of common religious affiliation.
Eighth to the right, Proctor shares this Jamison ancestry and is also
in the McElroy group which ought to be re-edited again soon due to inconclusive results when originally set up.
Tenth to the right,
|As 11th of 1730 Matches, Jett shares 68.09 cM of DNA, 22 matches (now 28 s. 7th and 8th to the right) and
native American ancestry with the author.
The Borads share Mitchell and Tucker ancestry with the author .
McAtee has Wade and Freeman and and Wade ancestry but the Gabbert branch off of her Wade line gets geographically near the presumed seat of the author's Gilberts between 1650 and 1689, some of her ancestor were upstream from Hoffenheim near Heilbronn and some were downstream in Mosbach.
Blakeslee has Whiting b 1842 Engl and Andrews ancestry
Kellum may be a variant of the author's Kellam ancestry, while both Kellum and Teegarden show Kirby ancestry, and the author has two matches by that name.
Whitehurst's great grandparents were all born in Staffordshire or Wales, so his common ancestry with author predates 1700.
Seventh and eighth to the right, since first setting up this row several more matches have appeared in this group who not in the original list.
Swope shows Ludlow, Fairfax and Buckner ancestry
|Epps shares 34.41 cM of DNA and 17 of the author's 1780 Matches. The name Epps or Eppes occurs
as a collateral line of the author's double native American lines of descent
and in the East Frisian Mennoniteancestry. Although the former lines seem to have been England
prior to immigration, a Dutch or East Frisian origin for them is also quite possible.
So relation at about G10 on three lines may be expected, if Epps is her maiden name.
The match on the right of chr 12 is most characteristic for this group, although not shared by all. Comparisons made with the others' CB's are needed to determine whether they share other segments with Epps which may be from the ancestor donors of this segment. Of course, it may just be matching segments from entirely different ancestors that get them over the threshold for making our respective match lists.
Although some some Eurogenes K36 ethnic distribution charts (available for free from www.gedmatch.com) from other matches in this group are needed for final clarification, the author's DNA along this range is either entirely Pictish or Pictish on the right and French left and middle.
Marianna shows West ancestry in Bucks PA allbeit without details suggesting two common lines of of nearly equally remote descent, but the closer West descent for the author goes over Shirley to a Blount descent bringing a convergence of three Blount lines for the author at a point where a collateral Blount/Marbury/Hutchinson/Dyer/Clark/Dunn line of descent goes off. We have to do here with largely Norman French lines. Looking further back along this triple Blount line for the author, we see a maternal Gresley line founded by the younger brother of Robert Stafford, both of whom were of the notable Norman Tosny/Toeni family, while looking further up the Shirley line we see the maternal lines in Beatrix de Braose sister of John de Braose of West Neston, Isabel Basset sister of Ralph Basset, Lord of Drayton etc. making a rather thorough Norman mix in this ancestral sector. Then she lists Stafford as an ancestral name opening several more even more remote possible connections. And she shows DeWitt ancestry, while the author's match of that name is in a different group involving Halstead.
Harkey shows double Blunt ancestry, which is obviously a variant of the author's remote Blount line, which has West and Stafford connections. He also has a Harris line, while tracing the author's Harris line has proved a rather elusive task. Then he shows Marshall ancestry opening another very remote possibility of common ancestry. And he show Smith, which has more immediate possible connections. But he has also been compared in the McGee group, where common ancestry on aFrye/Foreman/McGee line is close to the nearer of above said two West lines.
Roger and/or Andrew Wright may match somewhere on the author's brickwalled Wright line
|The author's 1st cousin, Nelson Wayne Hester, tested at Ancestry and shares 968.2 cM of DNA with segments of 7 cM length or more,
and 976.4 with segments of 1 cM length or more.
To the right, third cousin Timothy Edward Hester shares 29,6 cM of DNA with the author.
That is comparitively little for this degree of relationship but within the scope of the
usual quirks of chromosome realignment at conception, as 4th cousins will often not show up in match group at all.
Tim shares Henry Hester b 28 Feb 1797 d 8 Sep 1854
and Sarah Griffith Gr5 as common ancestors with Nelson and the author.
Second to the right, is a comparison of the matching DNA segments of NWH and WGH as ethnically interpreted by Eurogenes K36.
The ethnic tags shown here are not actual ancestral origins, they rather reflect the average occurance of the respective genes in the given areas.
so the overall total better reflects the ethnic origin than the color of the respective segments. Hence the shorter colored ranges do not
necessarily mean that the segment originated in that region, if they mean anything at all, then that the origin was some place unknown
and the movement of descendants brought more of that DNA to that region than to other regions, or that there were independent mutations
in different places evolving into this characteristic segment. Nonetheless the colorings are a weak indication of the origins of the respective segments,
if not actual evidence.
Third to the right, is a comparison of the matching DNA segments of NWH and TEH showing a match of 1,9 cM of DNA on chr 16, the left half of which includes a match on their maternal sides as well as the paternal match to be expected. The Eurogenes K36 displays for this range do not concur, showing some There is also a match of 2.2 cM on chr 6 but only on one side, presumably paternal, as well as a match on chr 3 of 3.2 cM
|Edwards nee Campbell shares 28,3 cM of DNA and 38 matches with the author. She also
shares Taylor ancestry,
but none of the typical Taylor DNA segments on chr 12 and 22, although we see that Harold Campbell, Calvin-Fennell and Harris do.
Characteristic for this group seems to be the matching segment on chr 9.
Harris shares Overton ancestry with the author. But the match on chr 20 opens the question as to whether it is on the same side of the author's family as that with Self there or the other side, if so on the right it would be Cary DNA or Owens DNA and the match with Campbell on the left could be Taylor DNA, if Harris has the same Cary line as the author somewhere. However, Campbell has weighed in with another Cary/Taylor line that is closer to the author's.
The match with Harold Campbell on chr 11 is the most typical a seven Andrews segments, but this family is probably of Scottish origin probably predating 1300 and could be inherited along most any Clan line. I believe they supported the Comyns at the time of Edward I and were driven out of Scotland, when Robert the Bruce tried to annihilate the Comyn supporters - no evidence for this except there appearance in Suffolk after Bruce's escapades.
British born Gregor's common ancestor's with this group predate the ohter's immigrant ancestor, among them a Cornwall born Pope line, which lacks at least 4 generations to connect with the author's double Pope line of nearby Bristol.
Douglas Harris shares Overton descent with the author.
Andrea Wright has Gwaltney and Raines ancestry. The latter is likely to be a collateral branch of the author's Owens ancestry .
First to the right, Austraw shares a part of the match on chr 9 with Campbell as does Beiner, as well as showing the left half of the match on chr 20 that may be either Cary or Taylor DNA. Her match on chr 1 seems to be Clan Gunn DNA, and the one chr 11 is Andrews DNA. The matches in this screenshot are generally very short meaning that the common ancestry is likely to be in the range G12 to G20.
Second to the right, we see several short matching segments in the same ranges
|West shares 67 cM of DNA and 33 Matches with the author, who has two West descents,
the closer being over his maternal Bland/Harris/Jamison/Huss/Sill/Kellam/West descent,
which would, however, mean common ancestry at G12 - rather remote indeed for the long matching segment on chr 20, if said West
were the closest common ancestor. So more data is needed on West's ancestry before we can conclude that we have to do with West DNA here.
The match with Williams on Jamison/Huss ancestral branch and includes Coalson although her exact relation still has to be established. This ancestral sector also includes said Kellam/West branches as well as remote Baker, Woodward and Scarborough branches. So the match on chr 20 with West, where Williams also matches, seems to be West DNA, unless some other closer common ancestor along this descent is reponsible for part of the segment such as a collateral Harris marrying a West. such as . But in the Campbell-Edwards row above we have found that Edwards nee Campbell shares a match in this range as well as two Taylor descents with the author, which are in the author's maternal grandmother's quarter, which - if this segment were DNA from this ancestry - would rule it out from being DNA the author's mataernal grandfather.
First to the right, Walp is also in the Borad group, which involves Mitchell DNA as closest ancestor, but also Tucker and Halstead ancestry as more remote connections. Warner is also in the Nuckolls group. The match with Warner on chr 12 is covers in part the range between the middle and right Taylor segments on chr 12, while the author's paternal DNA along a much wider range including both segment ranges is Hester Mennonite DNA from East Frisia. It is possible that a later spouse along the author's Taylor descent donated the DNA that makes this very distinctive gap (there are four possible Taylor lines!), or Warner may have the Hester DNA (including possible unknown 16th to 18th century maternal branches and any of the complex of collateral lines) or she may have it from a collateral line after 1750. The relatively short segment speaks for the more remote supposition.
Second to the right, Van Noble, and 3rd to right, Teegarden are both also included in the Jett group, but they do not match on chr 20, while the Taylor matches on chr 12 and the Swinderby match on chr 22 make Taylor descent highly likely.
Fifth to the right, the match with Harvey on chr 20 is rather exactly the range shared with Self who shares both Cary (maternal) and Owens/Hale (paternal) ancestry with the author. It is still too early to say whether this match is on the author's paternal or maternal side, but both the Hale and the Cary lines go back to the Anglo-Norman lines that intermarried only with other such lines like the West, Baron de la Warr line. Hence we may have to do with a segment that comes from an ancestor as early as G20, so that the more exact inheritance may have to be interpreted together with other such short segments. However, for the longer matching segment with West the author does have two rather well established lines to the West family, the Barons de la Warr. The open question is only what exact connection the two West matches here have with the family.
Sixth to the right, the matchs with Coalson and West on chr 5 and 8 as well as the one on chr 10 with Ferguson also seem to be significant for forming this group.
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|Mary Ann McKee, who is also in the Shadeck match group, shares 60,5 cM of DNA with the author and 30 matches.
Her name has several variants like MacKay, McKay, McKey, Key etc., while there is a Prather - McKay marriage in the author's maternal
grandmother's quarter, which their DNA match, Kathleen Hayes as the author's 2nd cousin once removed also shares in full with the author.
Shadeck shows Prather ancestry. The Bentleys show Berryman, which Hayes shares only one of the author's two lines to.
Third to the right, Davenport's relation to the author is obviously at least along the
author's Nicholas/Prather/Sprigg/Nuthall/Hyde/Davenport line although a closer relation than 12th cousin cannot be excluded yet.
Fourth to the right, Hall shows Webb ancestry, as do Hayes and the author, although the connection of the families has yet to be established.
Fifth to the right, Farmer shows Duke as an ancestral line. The is also a collateral line off the author's double Bryant line. Farmer also shows a Bowles line which may be a collateral off the maternal Bowles line in Hayes and the author's Robinson tree. The names Porter, Buchanan, Sargent and Read may also be connections.
Sixth to the right, Copher shares Pope with Hayes and the author.
Seventh to the right, of the few names Williams does show in her tree we see both Taylor and Holloway, while Hayes and the author share three possibly four lines of Taylor decent as well as the Nicholas/Prather/Sprigg/Nuthall/Bacon line where Elizabeth Bacon married first Dr. John Holloway and had 2 to 4 children before being widowed and marrying our John Nuthall. However she does show Cole, Wilson, Robinson, Woodward, Austin, Tye and Bryant, as ancestral names without including them in her tree. The first four are direct ancestral names for Hayes and the author, while Austin and Tye appear as their collateral lines, and Bryant is a double ancestral line for the author
The name Ray shows up varyingly as middle name or as ancestral name in some of the trees in this group, but it is not a direct line of descentor significant collateral line for the author, so it seems more likely to be important for getting these persons on McKee's match list.
|Jimmie Boone shares 35 cM of DNA with the author and 40 matches as well as Boone,
Sprigg and Prather as well as
and a few other ancient lines of ancestry with the author.
The comparison at the left was a selection of the common matches who also share Boone's longest matching segment on chr 11. Of these also shares the typical Andrews segment in the middle of chr 11. Boone's match on chr 16 is also an Andrews segment.
Fifth to the right, Clements Gardiner shares the author's Howard and Dorsey ancestery
|The graphics of this row have been moved to CompHussJanet.htm||(This row is still being prepared.) Beiner shares 56 cM of DNA and 31 DNA matches with the author as well as Huss and possibly Thompson ancestry.|
|This row has been moved to CompCooperWitterTanya.htm. Cooper Witter shares almost 67 cM of DNA 95 DNA matches as well as Terrell, Basye and possibly Elliott, Baker, Gilbert, Christian, Smith, Cotton and other ancestry in all quarters of the author's ancestry.|