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This family probably originated in Quesnai, Normandy. In England the name was originally spelt de Chesney or de Chasney, being 'latinised' as de Caisneto, and later Cheyney or Cheney. In Scotland the name was commonly spelt Chen from the early 14th century and Cheyne from about 1600. Their progenitor, who came to England at the time of or shortly after the Conquest, was ... | Space for your banner! | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ch31 =32 =33. Ralf
de Caisneto a 1086
m Maud dau of William de Watville name found on web site |
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Ch30-1. | Ralf de Caisneto
m Emma |
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Ch30-1-1 | John de Caisneto | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
i. | Emma de Caisneto = Emma de Chesney | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
m Michael Belet | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ii. | Alice de Caisneto = Alice de Chesney | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
m1 Hugh de Periers mentioned in TCP vol X, appendix J | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m2 Geoffrey de Sai b c1155, d 1230 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ch30-2. | William de Caisneto | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
According to our Main Source, which is careful to report that this connection has not yet been fully proved, this William is thought to have been either the same person as or possibly the father of ... | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ch30-2-1 | William le Chen |
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This may also have been the William de Caisneto who is reported in various web sites to have been father of ... | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ch30-2-2 | Matilda or Maud de Chesney d by 1198 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
m Henry FitzGerold d 1174-5, Chamberlain | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ch30-3. | Sybil
de Caisneto = Sybil de Chesney, lady of Rudham b c 1090 Rudham Norfolk d 1115 Hereford Norfolk
m Robert FitzWalter de Windsor of Horsford b c 1090 d 29 Sep 1174 This connection is supported by TCP Engaine. |
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Ch30-3-1 | William
'de Caisneto' of Horsford and Colne, Sheriff of Norfolk d 12.1174
= William de Chesney or Cheney of Horsford
m1 m Albreda de Poynings b c 1137 Pangdean Sussex d 1174 Blythborough Suffolk dau of Adam de Poynings m2 Gilla x + 6 ch |
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Ch30-3-1-1 | Alice de Cheney of Horncastle b 1132
m Roger de Cundy, Lord of Coventry |
-1 Agnes de Cuni/de Condet b c 1160 Caenby, Lincolnshire d 23 Dec 1263 in Gwynedd, Wales m Walter 2nd Baron Clifford | -1-1 Sir Walter Clifford, 3rd Baron Clifford b 1187 Clifford Castle, Clifford, Herefordshire d there Dec 1263 m1 Isabel m2 Margaret verch Llewelyn + 2 ch
-1-2 Sir Roger de Clifford, Sr., Kt. -1-3 Sir Giles de Clifford -1-4 Maud de Clifford -1-5 Richard de Clifford -1-6 Simon de Clifford -1-7 Basilia de Clifford -1-8 Cecilia de Clifford -1-9 Sir Hugh Clifford |
-1-1-1 Lucia Clifford b c 1220 Clifford Castle m Hugh FitzHugh de Say
-1-1-2 Maud de Clifford, Baroness Giffard |
-1-1-1-1 Lucy de Say b c 1235 m Sir Thomas de Arderne of Preston | |||||||||||||||||||||
Ch30-3-1-2 | William de Cheney | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ch30-3-1-3 | Matilda de Cheney | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ch30-3-1-4 | Margery de Caisneto = Margery de Chesney of Horsford |
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m1 Hugh de Cressi or Cressey d 1189 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
The following comes from Commoners vol I, Clavering of Callaly. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
a. | Roger de Cressey | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
m Isabella de Rie | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
1+ | 4 sons dsp | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
m2 Robert FitzRoger of Warkworth and Clavering d 22.11.1214 |
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Ch30-3-1-3 | Sara de Caisneto = Sara de Chesney of Colne | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
m Richard Engaine of Laxton and Pytchley d 23.04.1209 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ch30-3-1-7 | Clemence de Caisneto = Clemence de Chesney of Hoo dsp
m Jordan de Sackville dsp |
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Ch30-3-2 | Roger FitzRobert | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ch30-3-3 | John FitzRobert d 1149 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ch30-3-4 |
Margaret FitzRobert
m Heimo de St. Clair | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
Some web sites report that Ralf was also father of ... | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ch30 =31 =32 | Philip de Caisneto of Addington, Surrey | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ch29 =30 =31 | Reynold de Caisneto of Addington b 1095 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ch=28 =29 =30 | Philip de Caisneto or Chesney of Addington | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ch27 =28 =29 | Bartholomew de Chesney of Addington | BHO has some contradictions. 'The Environs of London' vol 1, Addington reports that Batholomew had 2 daughters, one married Peter grandson of Ailwin of London and the other married William Aguillon who inherited part of Addington. VCH Sussex, vol 7, Fulking reports that Bartholomew's dau/heir Isabel m. Peter, eldest son of Henry Fitz Ailwin, Mayor of London, and that their younger daughter Joan m2. William Aguillon d 1244. We follow the latter view which is supported by VCH Surrey, vol 4, Addington. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ch26 =27 =28 | Isabel de Chesney | Wikipedia identifies Peter 1165-1207 as eldest son of Henry c1135-1212 who became the first Mayor of London in 1189. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
Fi25-1 | Margaret of Addington dsp? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
m Ralph de Clere | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Fi25 =26 =27 | Joan
of Addington
m1 Ralph Parmentier of London m2 William d'Aguillon of Addington d 1244 |
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Ag24 =25 =26 | Sir
Robert Aguillon of Addington 'of Watton & Perching', Sheriff of Surrey
d 15.02.1285/6
('The
Environs of London' vol 1, Addington reports that Robert "married Margaret,
Countess of the Isle of Wight, by whom he had two daughters; one of whom
married Jourdan de Saukvil, ancestor of the Duke of Dorset; the other married
Hugh Bardolf". However, TCP Bardolf identifies Hugh Bardolf's wife as
Isabel, "da. and 15 Feb 1285/6 sole h." of Sir Robert Aguillon of Addington
by his 1st wife Joan, dau of William Ferrers, Earl of Derby.
That Joan
is shown by TCP Derby as "dead in Oct. 1267" so a 2nd wife of Robert
could not have been mother by Robert of Margery who m. Jordan de Sackville
as the latter is reported by Collins to have died in 1Ed1 1272. We
suspect that Margery may well have been co-heir of Sir Robert but was his
sister rather than daughter.
m1 Joan de Ferrers d 10.1267, dau of William de Ferrers, Earl of Derby |
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Ag23 =24 =25 | Isabel
Aguillon b 25.03.1257/8, d before 28.05.1323
m before 1282 Hugh Bardolf or Bardolph, 1st Lord b c 29.09.1259, d 09.1304 |
Ba22 =23 =25 Sir Thomas Bardolf, 2nd Lord b 04.10.1282, d 15.12.1328
m Agnes d 11.12.1357, "perhaps" dau of William de Grandison, Sn de Grandison, by Blanche, dau of Louis de Savoie, Baron de Vaud
Ba22-2 Nichole Bardolfpresumed to have been the Nichole who married ... m1 Sir Robert de Arderne of Perching a 1329 m2 Sir Thomas Wale Ba22-3 William Bardolph b about 1290, y Bardolph ancestor of Edmond Bardolph father of Maude Bardolph m Thomas Hoo of Hoo Ba22-4 Margery |
Ba21 =22 =24 John Bardolf, 3rd Lord of Wirmegay b 13.01.1311/2 or 1313/4, d 29.07.1363 m 1326 Elizabeth D'Amorie b 1318, a 1360, dau/heir of Sir Roger D'Amorie
by Elizabeth de Clare
Ba21-2 Margaret Bardolf probably of this generation m before 1334 Adam de Welles, 3rd Lord b 22.07.1304, d 02.1344/5 Ba21-3 Also shown in this generation by freepages Barbara Bardolf m Roger Lewknor and had Thomas Lewknor m Joan d'Oyly Ba21-4 Ba21-3-1 Roger Lewknor |
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m2 Margaret, Countess of the Isle of Wight | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Margery
Aguillon probably of this generation |
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m Jourdan de Saukvil Jordan de Sackville d 1272 |
Sources: 'The Cheyne family in Scotland' by Lt. Colonel A.Y. Cheyne, published
in 1931.
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