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| Br31. Robert de Bruges Castellan of Bruges 1046, emigrated to Normandy 1051 | ||||||||||||||||
| www.baronage.co.uk 'Baronage' suggests that this Robert may have been a younger son of Lambert I, Count of Louvain after considering heraldic and other clues but remains a reasonable hypothesis. It is thought that this Robert settled in Normandy at a place which became known as Brix, a corruption of the family name. | ||||||||||||||||
| m Emma of Brittany dau of Allan, Earl of Brittany | ||||||||||||||||
| Br30-1. | Adelm or Allan de Brus, Sn de Brix remained in Normandy | |||||||||||||||
| Sources disagree whether the son of Robert de Bruges who was ancestor of the Bruces of Scotland was called Adelm/Allan or Robert, although most seem to agree that it was the second son who was that ancestor. | ||||||||||||||||
| Br30-1-1 | Adam de Brus, Sn de Brix | |||||||||||||||
| Br31 =30 =29 | Robert de Brusse came to England with William the Conqueror in 1066, d c1080 Various
sources, including TSP, show this Robert as the Robert who married Emma
of Brittany. However, because we have seen that sources which look before
the Robert who came to England some of which appear reasonable have attributed
her to the previous generation, we provisionally follow them and
presume that TSP and others attributed Emma of Brittany to the wrong generation.
BLG1850 shows this Robert's wife as Agnes de St. Clair who is also mentioned
by 'Baronage'' in its articles which suggest the descent of this family
from the House of Louvain. m Agnes de St. Clair dau of Waldonius, Earl of St. Clair |
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| Br29-1 | William de Brusse | |||||||||||||||
| Br30 =29 =28 | Adam de Brusse of Skelton, Lord of Cleveland d 1098
m ? Emma de Ramsay dau of Sir William de Ramsay |
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| Br29 =28 =27 | Robert de Bruce, Lord of Skelton and 1st of Annandale d 05.1141
m Agnes de Paganell b c1076, dau of Fulk de Paganell |
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| Br27 | Adam le Brus, Lord of Skelton b c1021, d 1143 | |||||||||||||||
| m Jueta or Ivetta or Yvette d'Arches dau of William d'Arches =Guillaume Giffard, Viscount d'Arques | ||||||||||||||||
| Many of the details of this part of the family have been found on sundry web sites which are not always convincing as to dates, etc.. | ||||||||||||||||
| Br26 | Adam le Brus, Lord of Skelton d 1196 | |||||||||||||||
| m1?. Joanna de Meschines dau of Ranulph 'de Gernons' de Meschines, 2nd Earl of Chester | ||||||||||||||||
| m2?. Agnes or Hawise of Aumale dau of Etienne, Count of Aumale | ||||||||||||||||
| Some web sites show Joanna as mother of Piers but others show Agnes as his mother. There are others still that indicate that she was a wife of Piers but the dates lead us to prefer to show her of this generation with a preference but no real reason to indicate that Agnes was mother of Piers simply because the perhaps unreliable dates indicate that her first husband died about 1150/2 so she may have promptly married Adam and produced Piers. On the other hand, of course, the dates could also support the view that Adam took another wife soon after Joanna had died soon after giving birth to Piers. This matter will be reviewed further in due course. | ||||||||||||||||
| Br25 | Piers Brus, lord of Skelton b c1152 ?, d c1222 | |||||||||||||||
| m Joan le Grammaire b c1158, dau of Richard le Grammaire | ||||||||||||||||
| Br24=28 | Peter/Piers Brus, lord of Skelton and Danby b c1181, d 07.09.1241 | |||||||||||||||
| m Hawise de Lancaster b c 1190, d after 09.1226, dau of Gilbert FitzReindfride | ||||||||||||||||
| BE1883 Lancaster confirms Peter dsp, Margaret shown as eldest daughter, Agnes, Lucy and Laderine as their children. | ||||||||||||||||
| Br23-1 | Peter/Piers Brus, lord of Skelton b c1209, dsp 18.09.1272 | |||||||||||||||
| m Hilary de Mauley dau of Piers de Mauley | ||||||||||||||||
| Some sites show this Peter as father of the Lucy who married Marmaduke de Thweng. We follow TCP Thweng which names her parents as Peter Brus and Hawise de Lancaster. | ||||||||||||||||
| Br23-2 | Joan Brus b c1211, d before 13.10.1243 | |||||||||||||||
| m Piers de Mauley d before 15.07.1279 | ||||||||||||||||
| Br23-3 | Agnes Brus b c1215, d before 05.1279 |
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| m1 William de Lancaster, Lord Kendal |
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| m2 Walter de Fauconberg of Ryse d before 1272 | ||||||||||||||||
| Only this second marriage, which is confirmed by BP1934 Conyers, is mentioned by BE1883 Lancaster. | ||||||||||||||||
| Br23 =27 | Lucy Brus b 1216, d after 1282
m c1242 Marmaduke de Thweng of Kilton d c1283 |
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| Br23-5 | Margaret Brus b c1218, d before 30.01.1306/7, 3rd daughter? | |||||||||||||||
| m | Robert de Ros of Wark or Werke Castle d before 20.04.1274 | |||||||||||||||
| Br23 | Laderina Brus b c1219
m John de Bella Aqua/Bellew/Beaulieu of Carlton, Lord d 1301 |
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| TCP Bellew identifies their children as .... | ||||||||||||||||
| Be22 | Sibyl or Isabel Bellew
m Miles Stapleton d Bannockburn 24 Jun 1314 |
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| Be22-2 | Joan Bellew
m Aucher FitzHenry |
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| Br23-7 | Avelina de Bruce b c1206 | |||||||||||||||
| Br23-8 | Isabella de Bruce b c1207 | |||||||||||||||
| Br23-9 | John de Bruce b c1213 | |||||||||||||||
| Br23-10 | Alice de Bruce b c1220, Margery b c1221 | |||||||||||||||
| Br24-2 | oSimon de Bruce b c1183 | |||||||||||||||
| Br24-3 | Roger de Bruce b c1184, d after 1237 | |||||||||||||||
| Br24-4 | Thomas de Bruce b c1186 | |||||||||||||||
| Br24-5 | Robert de Bruce b c1187 | |||||||||||||||
| Br24-10 | William de Bruce b c 1189 | |||||||||||||||
| Br25-2 | Isabel de Bruce d after 1230
m Henry de Percy d c1198 |
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| Br25-3? | possibly here was:
x de Bruce of Uglebarby b c 1170 m Sir Hercules Beckwith de Malebisse b c 1208/?1170 d 1232 (source date implausible) |
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| Br26-2 | William le Brus b c1136 | |||||||||||||||
| Br27-2 | Sir Robert de Bruce, 2nd Lord of Annandale b c1103, d 1194 |
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| m Euphemia |
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| Br27-3 | Pagan de Bruce possibly ancestor of Bruce of Pickering | |||||||||||||||
| Br28 =27 =26 | Agatha de Bruce b c 1105
m Ralph Taillebois, lord of Middleham b c1100 . . . Y |
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| Br28-2+ | other issue - William d 1155, prior of Gisburne, Duncan, Rosselina | |||||||||||||||
Sources: various web sites
TSP Bruce of Carrick, BLG1850 Bruce of Kennet,
in supplement, BE1883 Bruce of Annandale
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