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Thweng : Thwenge of Cornburgh / Corneburgh, Thwenge of Heworth, Thweng or Thwenge of Kilton, Thwenge of Over Helmsley, Thwenge of Southburn
Th31. Robert de Thweng of Legsby a 1130
Th30. Robert FitzRobert de Thweng a 1164, d c1190
m Emma sister of Duncan Darel of Lund
Th29. Sir Marmaduke de Thweng or Thwenge b 1164, d 1235
Walker which also named his mother as an Emma and BE1883 identify his wife as Emma, sister of Duncan Darell, but we follow TCP in showing that Emma as Marmaduke's mother.
Th28 Sir Robert de Thweng b 1202, d 1247
m Maud de Kilton d 06.1279, dau of Roger de Kilton, brother of William, widow of Sir Richard de Autrey
Th27 Sir Marmaduke de Thweng of Kilton b 1225, d c1283
Walker identifies Marmaduke's wife as dau of Peter de Brus by Helewise, dau of Peter de Merley, and sister/coheir of her brother Peter. As shown on Bruce01, we follow BE1883 Lancaster and other sources which show the Peter who married Hilary not Helewise de Merley as having dsp and TCP Thweng which shows this Lucy as ...
m c1242 Lucy Brus b 1216, d after 1282, dau of Peter de Brus of Skelton by Hawise de Lancaster
?Th26 Robert de Thweng of Kilton & Kirkleatham dvp 05.1279
m1 before 12.1265 Alice de Merlay b c1257, d before 07.02.1267/8, dau of Roger de Merlay of Morpeth
p/m2. 1271 Matilda Hansard dau of Sir Robert Hansard
Th25-1 Lucy de Thweng b 24.03.1278/9, d 08.01.1346/7
m1 before 20.04.1295, div before 22.07.1312 William de Latimer, 2nd Lord d 27.02.1326/7
m2 before 29.01.1312/3 Sir Robert de Everingham of Everingham dsp before 04.04.1316
m3 1320 Sir Bartholomew de Fancourt or Fanacourt dsp 1352
p. Nicholas de Meinill, 2nd Lord b 06.12.1274, d unm 26.04.1332
Th25-2 Marmaduke
Th25-3 Robert priest
Th25=23 Anne de Thwenge possibly of this generation
m Jordan Ellall, forester of Wyresdale
Th26-2 Marmaduke de Thweng, 1st Lord b 09.1256, d 04.1322
m 1273 Isabel de Ros d 1309, dau of Sir William de Ros of Ingmanthorpe
A Marmaduke de Thweng b 1274, dvp Stirling Bridge 11.09.1297
B William de Thweng, 2nd Lord b 1276, dsp 25.02.1340
m Catherine de Furnivalle d 1349, dau of Thomas de Furnivalle, 1st Lord, possibly by Joan Despenser
C Robert de Thweng, 3rd Lord b 1277, dsp unm 22/5.04.1344, parson
D Thomas de Thweng, 4th Lord b 1283, dsp unm 28.05.1374, rector of Kirkleatham
E Lucy de Thweng
m Robert de Lumley d before 20.07.1325
F Margaret de Thweng
m Robert de Hylton of Swyne, 'Lord Hilton'
G Katherine de Thweng b 1285
m 1303 Sir Ralph Daubeney, 2nd Lord a 1343
H Maud de Thweng
Walker shows a daughter Maud as married to Sir John Hotham and mother of another John b 1344, a 1401. This appears to be wrong. TSP Thweng identifies the Maud who married that Sir John as a daughter of the above Margaret de Thweng and Robert de Hylton.
I+ other issue - John b 1284, d 03.01.1361, prior of Bridlington, Nicholas b 1286
Th26-3 Sir John de Thwenge b 1261, d 02.12.1330, 4th son
m Joan de Mauley d 13.07.1347, dau of Sir Robert de Mauley
Th26-3-1 Sir Edmund de Thwenge of Cornburgh Corneburgh & Southburn d 15.10.1344
Sir Edmund, married to Alice Helmesley, is identified by BE1883 as Edward of a generation earlier Sir John not being mentioned. We follow Walker as showing him as son of Sir John but note an element of caution as Walker shows Margery, who married Ralph, Lord Neville, twice, both as sister and as daughter of Sir John.
m1 by 1320 Alice de Helmesley dau of Walter de Helmesley
Walker follows the line of John, shown as Sir Edmund's son by Isabel Constable. Visitation Foster 1875, Yorkshire, 1584/5+1612, Witham of Cliffe reports that John had an elder brother Marmaduke. It is presumed that this was the following Marmaduke and that his mother was Alice de Helmesley.
Th26-3-1-1 Marmaduke Thwenge of Over Helmsley
-1 y Thwenge Uncertain on number of intervening generations.
-1-1 ?? Thwenge
-1-1-1 Marmaduke Thwenge of Over Helmsley - continued below
m Dorothy Redman dau of _ Redman of Bossall
m2 Isabel Constable d 1346, dau of Sir Robert Constable of Flamborough by Katherine Mauley
Th26-3-1-2 John Thwenge of Cornburgh & Southburn d before 16.10.1369
m1 Joan d 1346
a+ issue -?-1? John Thweng b c 1400 -?-1-1 Jennett Thweng
m William Snawsell b 1416
-?-1-1-1 Seth Snawsell b 1450 d 1537
m Elizabeth Davill b 1457
-?-1-1-1-1 John Snawsell b 1481 m Katherine Hansard Ha16 b c 1485 d 20 Nov 1520
-?-1-1-1-2 Seth Snawsell b c 1500 m x Conceyte
-?-1-1-1-1-1 Thomas Snawsell b c 1511 m Anne Malever
-?-1-1-1-2-1 Isabel Snawsell b 1552 d 1612 m John Gates of Howden
-?-1-1-1-1-1-1-1 Brian Snawsell Sn14 b c 1530 Yorks d 30 May 1558 Easingwood Yorks m Elizabeth Wentworth b 1535 dau of Thomas Wentworth and Alice Dyneley
-?-1-1-1-2-1-1 Mary Gates m John Vavasour of Spaldington b c 1575 Yorks a 1612 m Ralph Vavasour of Spaldinton b c 1546 Spaldington m Frances Darnell (dau of Adam Darnell of Thornholme Abbey)
m2 Margaret a 05.1370
b Marmaduke Thwenge of Cornburgh & Southburn d 01.01.1426
There are about 5 generations missing between Jane Thwenge,
5th gr. grandmother of Pres. Andrew Jackson and this pedigree
m Elena dau before 20.01.1391
1 William Thwenge of Cornburgh & Southburn d 1436
m Joan
A Agnes Thwenge d 24.10.1495
m 1432 Thomas Witham, Chancellor of the Exchequer dsp 1481
B Alice Thwenge
m Sir Henry Witham dsp, brother of Thomas
c Alice Thwenge
m John Wawton of Cliff
d Joan Thwenge d 1369
m John Westropp of Brompton
Th26-4 Margaret or Margery de Thweng b 1276
m sp Ralph de Nevill, 1st Lord of Raby d 1331
Th26-5+ other issue - Gawain b 1259, a 1294, Edmund b 1263, parson of Kirk Deighton, Richard b 1267, Peter b 1270, William b 1273, Roger b 1274, Hillaric b 1258, Matilda b 1265, Johanna b 1271
b. Sir Richard de Thwenge of Mickelby b 1240, d 1304
m Margaret d before 1315
1 Robert de Thwenge
c.+ other issue - Thomas, Gawen parson in Kendal, Robert
ii. Richard de Thwenge rector of Ripley
iii. Cecilia de Thwenge
m 1227 William Constable son of Robert of Holderness by Agnes d'Oyri
iv. Alice de Thwenge
m John Oketon son of John
B. William de Thwenge
Th26-3-1-...-1-1-1 Marmaduke Thwenge of Over Helmsley - continued above
m Dorothy Redman dau of Brian Redman of Bossall and Alice x
-1-1-1-1 George Thwenge of Over Helmsley
m Anne Thwaytes dau of ?? Thwaytes of Marston
-1-1-1-1-1 John Thwenge of Over Helmsley
m Maude Grimston dau of Thomas Grimston of Grimston
i. Marmaduke Thwenge of Over Helmsley b c1562, a 1584
ii.+ other issue - William, Anne, Margery
-1-1-1-1-2. Thomas Thwenge of Heworth
m Jane Kellet of York
i. William Thwenge of Heworth a 1612
m Jane Ormsby dau of Richard Ormsby of Leigh
a.+ issue a 1612 - George b c1600, Edward, Augustus, Margaret
ii.+ other issue - Edward, Thomas, Robert, Thomasin, Elizabeth, Anne, Mary, Edith
-1-1-1-1-3. Ingram Thwenge
-1-1-1-1-4. Margery Thwenge
m Robert Thornton of East Newton
-1-1-1-1-5. Katherine Thwenge
m Ralph Thwenge of Heslarton
-1-1-1-1-6. Jane Thwenge
m Robert Withes
-1-1-1-2. Christopher Thwenge of Hugget-on-ye-Wolde a 1584
A. Isabell Thwenge
B. Katherine Thwenge
m James Conyers
-1-1-1-3. Dorothy Thwenge nun

1 TCP Thweng, BE1883 Thweng, Walker's Yorkshire Pedigrees 1942, Thwenge of Kilton
2 Visitation Foster 1875, Yorkshire, 1584/5+1612, Thweng of Over Helmsley
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