Menteith 1: Menteith of Alva, Menteith of Kerse, Menteith of Rusky

Sir John Menteth, Sheriff of Dunbarton (d c1323)

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TSP reports that Sir John "achieved an unenviable notoriety as the taker or betrayer of Sir William Wallace".

1.

Sir John Menteth, Lord of Arran (d before 1344)

m. (before 1323) Elyne of Mar (dau of Gartney / Gratney, 7th Earl of Mar)

A.

John Menteth, Lord of Arran and Knapdale (dsp c1360)

m. Catherine

B.

Christian Menteth (d c1387)

m1. Sir Edward Keith of Synton

m2. (1352, sps) Sir Robert Erskine of that ilk (d 1385, Chamberlain, Ambassador)

2.

Sir Walter Menteth of Rusky

A.

Sir Alexander Menteith of Rusky

i.

Robert Menteith of Rusky (d before 23.04.1411)

m. (c25.07.1392) Margaret of Lennox (dau of Duncan, 8th Earl of Lennox)

a.

Murdoch Menteith of Rusky

m. Christian Murray (dau of Sir David Murray of Tullibardine) wife of Murdoch, presumed mother of ...

(1)

Patrick Menteith of Rusky (dsp)

(2)

Agnes Menteith apparently of this generation

m. Sir John Haldane, 3rd of Gleneagles (d 07.1493)

(3)

Elizabeth Menteith (d c1508) apparently of this generation

m. John Napier, 3rd of Merchiston (d before 03.11.1487)

B.

John Menteith, 1st of Kerse, Sheriff of Clackmannanshire (d before 10.1382)

m. Mary Stirling (dau of Sir John de Strivelyn of Carse and Alva)

i.

Sir William Menteith, 2nd of Kerse

a.

William Menteith, 3rd of Kerse and Alva

m. Helen Livingstone (dau of Sir Alexander Livingstone of Callander)

(1)

William Menteith, 4th of Kerse and Alva, Sheriff of Clackmannanshire

m. Elizabeth Fleming (dau of ?? Fleming of Cumbernauld)

(A)

William Menteith (dvp)

m. Agnes Erskine (dau of Alexander Erskine, 3rd Lord)

(i)

Sir William Menteith, 5th of Kerse and Alva

m. (before 22.02.1505) Helen Bruce (dau of Sir John Bruce of Airth)

(a)

William Menteith, 6th of Kerse (a 1537)

m. (after 09.1513) Margaret Moncreiff (d 11.1554, dau of Sir John Moncreiff of that ilk, widow of Sir Duncan Campbell, 2nd of Glenorchy)

((1))

William Menteith, 7th of Kerse (d by 12.12.1547)

m. Elizabeth Livingstone

((A))

Elizabeth Menteith

m. (mcrt 07.02.1549) Simon Preston of that ilk

((B))

Helen Menteith

..

m. John Menteith, 9th of Kerse below

..

((C))

Janet Menteith

m. (by 28.03.1558) William Maitland, younger of Lethington

(b)

Robert Menteith, 8th of Kerse

m. (after 09.1513) Marjorie Lawson (dau of Sir John Lawson of Humbie, widow of Sir John Haldane of Gleneagles and of Lucas, son of Sir William Stirling of Keir)

((1))

Sir John Menteith, 9th of Kerse

m. Helen Menteith (dau of William Menteith, 7th of Kerse) above

((A))

Sir William Menteith, 10th of Kerse

m. (mcrt 23.05.1572) Marion Bruce (dau of Alexander Bruce of Airth)

((i))

Sir William Menteith, 11th of Kerse

m1. (by 13.02.1598) Margaret Hepburn

It is a presumption that all the children were by Margaret.

((a))

Margaret Menteith (d 21.07.1628)

m. (mcrt 17.08.1613) Sir John Stirling of Garden

((b))

Isabella Menteith

m. (mcrt 09.11.1622) Henry Schaw (son of Alexander of Cambusmoir)

((c))

Margaret Menteith

m. Robert Bruce, 2nd of Kinnaird (d Naseby 1645)

((d))+

other issue - William (dsp before 30.07.1631), Claud

m2. (by 01.11.1611) Isobell Hamilton

((ii))

Elizabeth Menteith

m. (by 23.01.1587) James Hamilton (son of Mungo of Humbie)

((iii))

Anna Menteith

m. (mcrt 05.1592) Sir Walter Dundas of Dundas (d c1634)

((iv))

Lillias Menteith

m. (mcrt 24.02.1636) Alexander Gordon (son of Sir George of Gight)

((v))

Katherine Menteith

m1. (mcrt 04.1600) Sir Andrew Murray of Balvaird (dsp 1624)

m2. (sp) Sir George Auchinleck of Balmanno

((vi))

Mariote Menteith

..

m. (mcrt 17.12.1610) David Pitcairn of that ilk (d 1653)

..

((vii))+

other issue - Alexander, Ludovick of Nether Baillie (d before 1649), James of Dalgrane, John of Brek, Robert

((B))

Sarah Menteith

m. James Elphinsone, 1st Lord Balmerino (d 1612)

((2))

William Menteith

m. Marion Balfour

(c)

James Menteith of Caerkae and Randiford (d Flodden 09.09.1513)

m. (1501) Janet Simpson (sister of Duncan Simpson of Achintyre, widow of Archibald Crawford of Braecroft)

(d)

Rankin Menteith

(ii)

Janet Menteith

m1. Alexander Forrester (son of Malcolm, 3rd of Torwood)

m2. (by 03.1502) Robert Preston

(iii)

Marion Menteith

m. Robert Drummond, 3rd of Carnock (who m2. Isabel, dau of Robert Stewart of Galstoun)

(B)

Robert Menteith

(2)

John Menteith of Randiford (4th son) had issue

(3)

Elizabeth Menteith

..

m. (1471) John Bruce of Stenhouse

..

(4)+

other issue - Archibald, Alexander

b.

daughter

m. Sir Malcolm Drummond of Concraig

ii.

daughter

..

m. Sir John Livingston of Callendar (d Homildon Hill 14.09.1402)

..

C.

daughter (Margaret ?)

..

m. Sir Maurice Buchanan, 10th of Buchanan (a 1320)

..

D.+

other issue - Walter, Malcolm, William

3.

Joanna Menteth m1. Malise, 7th Earl of Strathearn (d c1324-5)

m2. John Campbell, Earl of Atholl (d Halidon Hill 19.07.1333)

m3. Sir Maurice Moray, 3rd of Drumsagard, Earl of Strathearn (d Neville's Cross 17.10.1346)

..

m4. William Sutherland, 5th Earl ('King') of Sutherland (d 1370)

..

4.+

2 daughters

Main sources: "Heraldry of the Stewarts" (by G. Harvey Johnston), www.PerthshireHeritage.co.uk (see note under Main sources on Bruce03) with a (very) little support/input from TSP (Menteith)
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