| TCP
Moleyns or Molins includes a note that reports that this family is thought
to have descended from the following William de Falaise. However, it notes
that the normally identified ancestor is Robert but that he probably died
without male issue. |
| William de Falaise |
| 1. |
William
des Moulins a 1124 |
|
m1
Aubree a 1124, dau of Guitmond, castellan of Moulins |
|
A. |
William
des Moulins |
|
B. |
Robert
des Moulins dsp |
|
m
Agnes dau of Robert de Grandesmil |
|
m2
Duda dau of Waleran de Meulan |
|
C. |
Simon
des Moulins |
|
D. |
Hugh
des Moulins dsp |
| TCP
starts 'properly' with ... |
| Vincent
de Moleyns |
| m
Isabel |
| 1. |
Sir
John de Moleyns, 1st Baron d 10.03.1359/60 |
|
TCP
identifies this John as having been called to a Great Council as if he
was a Baron but notes that that assembly is not recognised as a formal
Parliament. Accordingly TCP appears not to accept that John and his successors
were real parliamentary 'Lords'. However, as TCP does include an article
on the family although this is arguably in support of the fact that the
undermentioned Sir Robert Hungerford was summoned to Parliament as Lord
Moleyns, we follow BE1883 in identifying him and his successors as though
they were. BE1883 shows that he had a second wife, Margaret daughter of
Roger Pogeys of Stoke Pogeys but TCP just shows his marriage to ... |
|
m
by 1325 Gilles or Egidia Mauduit dau of Sir John Mauduit of Somerford |
|
A. |
John
de Moleyns dvpsp 10.1342 |
|
m
by 1340 Joan Rokesley d 06.05.1369, dau of Sir Richard Rokesley |
|
B. |
William
de Moleyns, 2nd Baron d 14.02.1380/1 |
|
m
before 12.03.1352 Margery Bacoun b 1336, d 01.06.1399, dau of Sir Edmund
Bacoun of Norfolk by Margery Poynings |
|
i. |
Richard
de Moleyns, 3rd Baron d 14.12.1384 |
|
m
Eleanor de Beaumont dau of Henry Beaumont, 3rd Lord identified
by BE1883 Molines and BE1883 Beaumont |
|
a. |
William
de Moleyns, 4th Baron b 07.01.1377/8, d 08.06.1425 |
|
m
before 25.12.1405 Margery d 26.03.1439 |
|
BE1883
only shows one generations of Williams, showing Eleanor Alianore as daughter
of the 4th baron. We follow TCP. |
|
1 |
William
de Moleyns, 5th Baron bpt 08.12.1405, d Orleans 08.05.1429 |
|
m1
1417 Katherine Fauconer dau of Thomas Fauconer |
|
m2
01.05.1423 Anne Whalesborough a 01.1486, dau of John Whalesborough of
Cornwall |
|
A |
Eleanor
de Moleyns b 11.06.1426 |
|
m1
before 05.11.1440 Robert Hungerford, 3rd Lord Hungerford, Lord Moleyns,
b before 1429, d 1463/4 |
|
m2
c24.03.1468/9 Sir Oliver Manyngham |
|
2 |
Katherine
Moleyns d 03.11.1465 |
|
m
Sir John Howard, 1st Duke of Norfolk d Bosworth Field 22.08.1485 |
|
C. |
Isabel
de Molines |
|
m
Robert Morley dvp before 12.11.1403 |
|
|
| ??
de Marney |
| Ma24-1. |
Ralph de Marney of Layr Marney a 1254 |
| Ma24 |
Roger
de Marney |
|
Ma23 |
William
de Marney a 1262 |
|
Ma22 |
Robert de Marney named John by Berry
m
Avice Gernon dau of Ralph Gernon |
|
Ma21 |
William de Marney
m Katherine Venables |
|
Ma20=24 |
Sir Robert de Marney
m Alice Layer dau of Richard Layer of Suffolk |
|
Ma19 |
Sir William Marney of Layer Marney, Sheriff of Essex and Hertfordshire d 1414
m Elizabeth
Sergeants dau of Richard Sergeants or Sergiaux |
|
Ma18-1 |
Sir Thomas Marney d 1417
m Margaret Knyvett Kn17 |
|
a |
daughter
d unm |
|
Ma18-2 |
William
Marney d unm |
|
Ma18-3 |
Sir John Marney of Layer Marney b 1447 d c 1471
m before 27.04.1447 Jane Throckmorton dau of John Throckmorton of Gloucestershire |
|
Ma18-3-1 |
Sir Henry Marney, 1st Lord of Layer Marney b 1457, d 24.05.1523
m1
Thomasine Arundell dau of Sir John Arundell of Lanherne |
|
Ma18-3-1-1 |
John Marney, 2nd Lord b c1493, d 27.04.1525
m1
Christian Newburgh d 06.08.1517, dau of Sir Roger Newburgh |
|
Ma18-3-1-1-1 |
Katherine Marney b c 1515
m1 c1528 George Ratcliffe dsp before 11.1542, of Sussex family
m2 Sir Thomas Poynings, Sheriff of Kent, Baron dsp 17/8.08.1545 |
|
Ma18-3-1-1-2 |
Elizabeth Marney b c 1517
m Thomas Howard, 1st Viscount of Bindon d 28.01.1581/2 |
|
m2
Bridget Waldegrave bur 20.09.1549, dau of Sir William Waldegrave |
|
Ma18-3-1-2 |
Thomas
Marney d young |
|
Ma18-3-1-3 |
Catherine or Elizabeth Marney
m Thomas Bonham |
|
m2 Elizabeth Wyfold dau of Nicholas Wyfold or Wilford, Lord Mayor of London |
|
Ma18-3-1-4 |
Grace
Marney |
|
m
Sir Henry Bedingfield |
|
Ma18 |
Anne Marney
| m
Sir Thomas Tirrell of East Horndon and Heron |
|
Ma19 =23 |
Jean de Marney of Layer Marney, probably of this generation
m Sir
Robert de Peyton |
