List of pedigrees Bland of Northern Neck Va. Nicholas of Roundway Hester of Fleming Co Ky Thruston Author's DNA match comparisons |
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Sweyn probably father of .. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
1. | Thor, lord of Crawford a 1130 | |||||||||||||||||||||
A. | Sweyn, lord of Crawford a 1188 | |||||||||||||||||||||
This Sweyn has already been reported on 'Crawford01' although that page shows that Thor, Sweyn's father, was son of Leofwine of Northumbria rather than a Sweyn. The duplication will be removed when clarification has been obtained on the issue reported below. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
i. | Alan or Walter of Ruthven | |||||||||||||||||||||
m1?. Eve dau of Swane Thorson of Crawford | ||||||||||||||||||||||
m2?. Cecily de Maule dau of Sir William de Maule of Foulis | ||||||||||||||||||||||
TSP's report that Alan of Ruthven was son of Sweyn of Crawford may not be right. However, there is that Alan of Ruthven's father was called Walter and that Sweyn was Alan's father-in-law. as now shown. Clarification is also needed whether Alan married twice and whether the children shown below were all by Cecily de Maule, as reported by TSP. The references to Sweyn of Crawford that he was both Alan's father and his father-in-law is unlikely as that would have been incestuous, which was probably more more commen in early times. Many pedigrees showing only the wife's first name and only sons and no daughters may indeed be suspected of this. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
a. | Sir Walter of Ruthven a 1245 | |||||||||||||||||||||
m Cecilia of Strathearn dau of Gilbert, 3rd Earl of Strathearn | ||||||||||||||||||||||
1 | Sir Gilbert of Ruthven dsp 1266-79 | |||||||||||||||||||||
2 | Sir William de Ruthven of that ilk a 1298 | |||||||||||||||||||||
A | Walter de Ruthven d by 1330 | |||||||||||||||||||||
i | William de Ruthven of that ilk d by 04.1346 | |||||||||||||||||||||
a | William Ruthven of that ilk d before 25.06.1376 | |||||||||||||||||||||
m Johanna | ||||||||||||||||||||||
1 | Sir William Ruthven of that ilk a 1400 | |||||||||||||||||||||
A | Sir William Ruthven of that ilk a 1426 | |||||||||||||||||||||
i | Sir John Ruthven of that ilk d c1454 | |||||||||||||||||||||
a | Patrick Ruthven of that ilk | |||||||||||||||||||||
m ?? Cranstoun dau of Sir Thomas Cranstoun of that ilk | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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ii | Margaret Ruthven probably of this generation |
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m Sir Walter Drummond of Cargill and Stobhall d 1455 |
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B | David Ruthven of Murchall | |||||||||||||||||||||
b | Margaret Ruthven | |||||||||||||||||||||
m 1346 Sir Alexander or John de Seton dsp c1346 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
B | Gilbert de Ruthven | |||||||||||||||||||||
3 | daughter | |||||||||||||||||||||
m Sir Patrick Edgar | ||||||||||||||||||||||
b.+ | other issue - Henry, Adam | |||||||||||||||||||||
ii. | Walter |
Sources: TSP Gowrie, BP1999 Gowrie.
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