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: Holland of Chorlton, Holland in Essex, Holland of Glossop, Holland of Harleston, Holland of Knutsford, Holland of Mobberley, Holland of Quiddenham, Holland of Rhodes, Holland of Sandlebridge
Ho15-8. John Holland in Norfolk John is shown by various web sites as the 3rd son of Thurstan Holland of Denton d 1508. Both BEB1841 & Visitation start with the following Bryan who is described as "of Lea Hall in Glossop" by BEB1841 but as "of Denton Hall in co. Lanc." by Visitation. The latter might be taken to suggest that he was a son of a Holland of Denton rather than grandson, something which would ease the concern that there may be one too many generations shown here. However, in the absence of clearer support to the contrary, we provisionally show John as father of ...
1. Brian Holland of Lea Hall in Glossop, Derbyshire Described by various web site as "the Escheator". Most such sites show him as father of both Edward Holland of Glossop and John Holland of Wartwell Hall. Note that BEB1841 describes John son of Bryan son of John son of this Bryan as "of Wortwell, in Norfolk". We suspect that, unless both BEB1841 & Visitation are wrong, those other web sites have confused the generations.
A. John Holland of Harleston, Norfolk
John is described by BEB1841 as eldest son but is shown by Visitation as 3rd son. It is thought likely that his elder brothers dvpsp, making him the eldest surviving son.
m Ann Warner dau of _ Warner of Wingeild
i. Bryan Holland of Harleston
m Catherine Payne dau/heir of Peter Payne or Paine of Rowdham
a. John Holland of Wortwell, Norfolk
m Mary Windham dau of Sir Edmond Windham of Felbrig, m1. ?? Bulwer of Wooddalling
1 Sir Thomas Holland of Quiddenham, Norfolk
m1/2. Mary Knyvet dau of Sir Thomas Knyvet or Knevett of Morningthorpe in Norfolk
BEB1841 reports just one marriage for Sir Thomas, to Mary Knyvet who is shown as mother of John & Edward. Visitation shows also the marriage to Elizabeth Wigmore, showing her as mother of Elizabeth, but no children by Mary Knevett. Visitation goes no more forward in time and does not make clear the order of the marriages. It is noted that BEB1841 Barker of Grimston Hall refers to a Mary Wigmore dau of Edward of Twickenham as widow of Sir Thomas Holland of Quiddenham which, leaving aside the confusion with names, would suggest that Thomas's 1st wife was Mary Knyvet Knevett though that leaves it odd why Visitation did not mention any sons of that marriage. Fortunately, TCB vol II, Holland of Quiddenham confirms that it was Mary Knyvet who was mother of ...
A Sir John Holland, 1st Bart of Quiddenham b 1602-3, d 19.01.1701
m Alathea Panton d 22.05.1679, dau/coheir of John Panton of Bruinshop by Helenor, dau of Sir William Booth of Dunham Massey, widow of William, Lord Sandys
i Thomas Holland dvp 28.12.1698
BEB1841 does not identify Thomas's wife but TCB confirms that the mother of his son John was Elizabeth Meade. Thomas appears also to have married ...
m1 Thomasine North b c1633, d 28.09.1661, dau of Sir Henry North, 1st Bart of Milden Hall
m2 Elizabeth Meade dau of Thomas Meade of Loftus
a Sir John Holland, 2nd Bart of Quiddenham d c1724
m Rebecca Paston dau/coheir of William Paston, Earl of Yarmouth
1 Sir William Holland, 3rd Bart of Quiddenham b 17.04.1700, dsp 17.02.1729
m Mary Upton dau of Arthur Upton
2+ other issue - Isabella Diana, Charlotte
ii Abigail Holland
m Jacob Garrard son/heir of Sir Thomas Garrard, Bart of Norfolk
B Edward Hollandpresumed of this marriage
m2/1. Elizabeth Wigmore dau/heir of Sir Richard Wigmore of Twitnam Twickenham
C Elizabeth Hollandpresumed of this marriage
2 Elizabeth Holland
m Sir Martin Stutfeild of Dallum
ii. Elizabeth Holland
m Geffrey Mylles of Stoke Nayland
iii. Ann Holland
m John Godfrey of Harleston
B. Edward Holland of Glossop, Derbyshire
The following comes from various web sites.
i. John Holland d 1578, to Essex
a. Philemon Holland in Essex b 1552, d 09.02.1636
m Anne Payton d 1627, dau of William Payton
1 William Holland in Essex d c1636 in USA
m Mary
A+ issue in USA - John b 29.09.1580, d 10.07.1692, had issue, Richard, Gabriel Francis, William, Robert
2+ other issue - Abraham, Henry James, Richard, Robert
C.+ other issue - Guy dvpsp?, Oliver dvpsp?, Elizabeth, others
Lawrence Holland a temp Henry VIII who r. 1509-1547
1. William Holland of Clifton
m Alice Werden dau of Orskell Werden of Leyland
A. William Holland of Road or Rhodes, Prestwick d 1603
m Jane Parr dau of _ Parr of Road
i. Richard Holland of Rhodes ancestor of Holland of Rhodes
ii. Edward Holland of Chorlton
m c1604 Ellen Holme dau of Edward Holme of Heyton
a. William Holland of Chorlton, later of Mobberley, Cheshire
m c09.1624 Anne Bold dau of Ralph Bold of Ashton-under-Lyne
1 John Holland of Mobberley bpt 22.01.1631-2, d 17.01.1704-5, 3rd son, eldest surviving
m 01.08.1655 Hannah Norbury dau of Thomas Norbury of Over Alderley
A John Holland of Mobberley bpt 01.06.1656, bur 22.01.1712-3
FMG identifies John's only wife as _ Stanley. BP1934 identifies her as ...
m1 Mary Deane of Alderley bur 23.12.1700
i John Holland of Mobberley b 07.12.1690, bur 24.06.1770
m Mary Colthurst bur 05.08.1757, dau of Peter Colthurst of Sandlebridge
a John Holland of Mobberley d unm 1752
b Peter Holland of Knutsford
1 John Holland of Mobberley a 1828
2 Peter Holland of Liverpool
m _ Chapman
3 Mary Holland
m George Checkley of Ormskirk & Platt
4 Elizabeth Holland
m _ Jackson of Mobberley
5+ other issue - William d 1802, Margaret
c Thomas Holland d young
d Samuel Holland of Sandlebridge Sandal Bridge, Knutsford b 25.03.1734, d 26.05.1816
m 10.10.1763 Anne Swinton bur 04.07.1814, dau of Peter Swinton of Knutsford
1 Peter Holland of Sandlebridge & Knutsford b 03.06.1766, 19.01.1855, surgeon
m1 Mary Willets d 03.10.1803, dau of Rev. William Willets of Newcastle-under-Line
A Sir Henry Holland of London, 1st Bart b 27.10.1788, physician had issue
m1 08.09/10.1822 Margaret Emma Caldwell d 02.02.1830, dau of James Caldwell of Linley Wood
Their elder son was created 1st Viscount Knutsford.
m2 20.03.1834 Saba Smith d 02.11.1866, dau of Rev. Sydney Smith, Canon of St. Paul's
B+ other issue - Charles, Mary, Mary, Mary b 1792, a 1828, Elizabeth b 1794, a 1828, Lucy b 1794, a 1828
m2 25.12.1808 Mary Whitaker dau of Jeremiah Whitaker of Manchester & Esther
H+ other issue - Charles, Arthur, Susan
2 Samuel Holland of Liverpool
m Catherine Menzies of Liverpool
A+ issue - Samuel, Charles, Ann, Frances, another
3 Swinton Colthurst Holland of London d 1827
m Anna Willets dau of William Willets
A+ issue - Edward, Frederick, son, Caroline, Charlotte, Louise
4 Hannah Holland
m Samuel Lumb of Wakefield
5 Elizabeth Holland
m William Stevenson
6+ other issue a 1808 - Anne, Mary, Catherine, Abigail
e Elizabeth Holland dsp
m1 _ Norbury of Norbury
m2 Peter Swinton of Knutsford
f Mary Holland b 24.01.1725
m 1758 William Turner of Wakefield
g Ann Holland
m Thomas Holland of Manchester see 1 below
h Catherine Holland
m Philip Holland of Bolton see 2 below
i Abigail Holland
m William Coppock of Stockport
1 Catherine Coppock
m Thomas Holland of Manchester see 3 below
ii Thomas Holland of Wem, Salop b 07.12.1690, minister of Wem
m Mary Savage dau of John Savage of Wrenbury Wood by Sarah, dau of Philip Henry of Broad Oak
a Philip Holland of Bolton
m Catherine Holland dau of John Holland see 2 above
1 Philip Henry Holland of Hull d unm 1788, MD
2 Catherine Holland
m John Cole Rankin of Newcastle-upon-Tyne
A Catherine Rankin
m Henry Turner of Nottingham
b Thomas Holland of Manchester
m Anne Holland dau of John Holland see 1 above
1 Thomas Holland of Manchester
m1 Catherine Coppock dau of William Coppock by Abigail Holland see 3 above
A Thomas Crompton Holland a 1528
m 01.1826 Judith Gooch sister of John Gooch of Manchester
B+ other issue - Mary Ann d unm, Harriet, Catherine d unm
m2 Elizabeth Robson dau of William Robson of Newcastle-upon-Tyne
E+ other issue - William, John, Philipo Henry, Frank Waverley, Jane, Sarah d unm, Frances d unm
2 John Holland of Boldon dsp
m Esther or Elizabeth Pilkington of the Folds
3 Mary Holland
m William Turner of Newcastle
4 Anne Holland d unm 1794
c Matthew Holland of London dsp?, 4th son
m Mary Vaudrey
d Henry Holland of Ormskirk dsp 12.1781
m Elizabeth Fletcher of Salford
e Martha or Sarah Holland
m Thomas Ireland of Wem
f Anne Holland
m Richard or Robert Pilkington of the Folds
g+ other issue d unm - John, Jane d c1792, Mary
ii daughter
m _Coppock of Ringhay
iv daughter
m _ Gerard of Liverpool
v+ other issue including Peter
m2 14.04.1705 Mary Stanley? widow of _ Hopton of Nether Knutsford
B+ other issue - Thomas, William, Peter, 3 other sons, 1 daughter
2+ 6 sons and 4 daughters

Sources:
1 BEB1841 Holland of Quiddenham, Visitation Norfolk, 5163+1589+1613, Holland + various web sites as identified above
2 FMG vol i, Holland, BP1934 Knutsford
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