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| We used to show on this page the widely-reported 'fact' that the following Jenkin ap Adam was son of Adam Fitzherbert, a descendant of Herbert, Lord Chamberlain of King William Rufus. TCP Pembroke, vol X page 400 note b reports: "A spurious pedigree from Herbert the Chamberlain of Henry I, who is given an equally false descent from Herbert, Count of Vermandois, is set forth by Nicholas, Counties and County Families of Wales, vol ii, pp. 776-77." On 12.02.07 we moved the pedigree of Adam FitzHerbert to FitzHerbert04 to make it clear that we do not wish to imply that we support that apparently-spurious connection. | |||||||||||||||
| Jenkin ap Adam of Gwarinddub c 1325 d c 1377
m Gwenllian dau of Sir Aaron ap Bleddyn |
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| 1. | William ap Jenkin = Herbert of Gwarinddu or Gwarindee a 1350
m Gwenllian dau of Howel Ichon |
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| A. | John or Jenkin ap Gwyllim of Gwarinddu Wern-ddu ancestor of Progers of Gwarinddu, Progers of Llanmaes, Morgans of Llanfihangel | ||||||||||||||
| B. | David ap Gwyllim of Chapell ancestor of Jones of Trostre, Morgans of Triley, Morgans of Arxton | ||||||||||||||
| m Anne dau of Watkin Rees | |||||||||||||||
| C. | Howell ap Gwyllim a 1384 | ||||||||||||||
| m Maud dau of Howell ap Rhys | |||||||||||||||
| i. | Jenkin ap Howell | ||||||||||||||
| m Constance dau of Roger Vychan ap Walter Says | |||||||||||||||
| a. | David ap Jenkin of Treowen d Banbury 1469
m Margaret Huntley dau of Thomas Huntley of Treowen |
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| D. | Sir Thomas ap Gwyllim bur 08.07.1438 | ||||||||||||||
| m Maud Morley dau of Sir John Morley of Raglan Castle | |||||||||||||||
| i. | Philip ap Thomas of Llansaintffraid d 09.11.1460, 4th son? | ||||||||||||||
| m Joanne Blethin d 07.06.1458, dau of Thomas Blethin of Pentre | |||||||||||||||
| a. | David of Llansaintffraid d 19.12.1510 | ||||||||||||||
| m Katharine Vaughan d 26.03.1520, dau of Sir Roger Vaughan | |||||||||||||||
| 1 | Thomas of Llansaintffraid d 03.04.1537 had issue | ||||||||||||||
| m Jane d 13.08.1533, dau of John ap Thomas of Treowen | |||||||||||||||
| ii. | Even ap Thomas ancestor of Gwyns of Raglan, Raglans of Carnllwyd | ||||||||||||||
| iii. | David ap Thomas ancestor of Hughes of Cilwych or Caelwch or Killough | ||||||||||||||
| iv | Howell ap Thomas of Perthir eldest son? ancestor of Powells of Perthir | ||||||||||||||
| m Catherine dau of Gruno ap Ivor | |||||||||||||||
| a. | William Vychan of Llanrothal 3rd son | ||||||||||||||
| m _ Pye dau of John Pye of The Mynde | |||||||||||||||
| v | Sir William ap Thomas or Herbert of Raglan Castle d 1446 | ||||||||||||||
| BE1883 reports that Sir William had 2 wives: Gwladys and Margaret. BLG1952 also shows 2 wives: Elizabeth and Gladys. We provisionally show 3 wives as follows: | |||||||||||||||
| m1 Elizabeth Bluet d 24.05.1419, dau of Sir John Bluet of Daglingworth, widow of Sir James Berkeley and Thomas ap Harry | |||||||||||||||
| m2 Gwladys dau of Sir David 'Gam' ap Llewelyn ap Hywel ap Einion Sais, widow of Sir Roger Vaughan of Bredwardine | |||||||||||||||
| a. | Sir William Herbert of Raglan, 1st Earl of Pembroke b c1423, d 27.07.1469 | ||||||||||||||
| m Anne Devereux dau of Sir Walter Devereux of Bodenham and Whitchurch | |||||||||||||||
| b. | Thomas Herbert of Troy House d before 1482 | ||||||||||||||
| c. | Sir Richard Herbert of Colebrooke or Coldbrook d 27.07.1469 | ||||||||||||||
| m Margaret dau of Sir Thomas ap Griffith ap Nicholas of Carmarthen | |||||||||||||||
| d. | John Herbert a 1469 | ||||||||||||||
| e. | Elizabeth Herbert or Thomas | ||||||||||||||
| m Sir Henry or Harry Stradling of St. Donat's | |||||||||||||||
| m3. Margaret dau of Thomas ap Griffith | |||||||||||||||
| f. | Margaret Herbert | ||||||||||||||
| Margaret is shown by BE1883 as daughter of Margaret, by BLG1952 which does not mention her mother Margaret as daughter of Gladys. | |||||||||||||||
| m Sir Henry Woogan or Wogan of Wiston | |||||||||||||||
| g. | Maud Herbert | ||||||||||||||
| Maud is not mentioned by BE1883. BLG1952, which does not mention her mother Margaret, shows her as daughter by Gladys but as younger than her sister Margaret. | |||||||||||||||
| m Howel of Blaina Gwent | |||||||||||||||
| E. | Gwenllian | ||||||||||||||
| m Meurig ap Howel Fychan of Penrhos Ffwrdios | |||||||||||||||
Sources: BLG1952 Herbert of Upper Helmsley of Westow, BE1883 Herbert
of Herbert, Chepstow, Pembroke and Huntingdon
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