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| Ve29 =32 =34. William de Vernon a 1052, of Vernon in Normandy b about 1040 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Ve29 =30 =31 =33 | Richard de Vernon, lord of Shipbroke a 1086 in England | A Vernon who must have married a Pyle girl and emigrated to Chester Co PA is probably a descendant of this family. The marriage of a Pyle girl to a Vernon who immigrated to Chester Co Pa is needed to explain a group of over 50 of the author's autosomal DNA matches with ancestors from this area. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Ve28 =29 =30 =32 | William de Vernon 2nd son | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Ve27 =28 =29 =31 | ?? de Vernon With a son being born about 1160 there are likely to have been three generations between the latter and the combatant at Hastings | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Ve26 =27 =28 =30 | Hugh de Vernon of Shipbroke If he outlived his son he
must have been born about 1160 BP1934
identifies the following Richard as great-grandson of William, 2nd son
of Richard Baliol of Shipbroke above. Some web sites indicate that Hugh was son
of William rather than grandson. Visitation 1580 shows that the Warine
who married Auda Malbank was son of Richard a 1121, brother of Mathew
de Holgreve & Erdeswike, son of Warin de Vernon brother of Hugo
who dsp, son of Richardus de Vernon. We follow BP1934.
m x Baliot b about 1165 dau of Reginald de Balliot or Balliol identified on some web sites, ?Baliol |
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| Ve25 =26 =27 =29 | Richard
de Vernon dvp If he was outlived by his father
and had two sons born as late as 1210 he must have been born about 1180
m Avice de Avenell dau of William de Avenell of Haddon |
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| Ve24 =25 =26 =28 | Warine de Vernon of Shipbroke b about 1200
m Auda Malbank dau of William Malbank of Wich Malbank |
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| Ve25 =27 | Warine de Vernon of Shipbroke
m Margaret de Andeville dau of Ralph de Andeville |
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| Ve24-1 | Warine de Vernon dsp | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Ve24-2 | Margaret or Margery de Vernon
m Richard de Wilbraham |
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| Ve24 =26 | Edith de Vernon
m Sir William Stafford |
-1 William Stafford of Sandon
m Cecily de Waure dau of Robert de Waure
-2 Robert Stafford St22 b c 1280, d m Gundreda |
-1-1 William Stafford of Sandon ?= William Stafford of Bromshull b 1278, d 1307
m Isabella Stafford dau of Robert de Stafford
-2-1 Isabella de STAFFORD d 1309 -2-2 Johanna STAFFORD St22 d 1342 m. Sir Peter de Gresley d 1310 ( Stafford shows the marriage of a Sir Richard de Stafford (1302-1380) and Isabel de Vernon so there were obvious family connections, but this Richard seems to have had only four brothers named Ralph, William, Humphrey and Jacobus) |
-1-1-1 Sir John Stafford of Sandon = Sir John Stafford of Bromshull b c 1320 m1
Katherine Hastings mentioned by the IGI m2
Margaret Stafford + ch dau of Ralph de Stafford, 1st Earl of Stafford
-2-2-1 Sir Geoffrey Gresley Gr21 m 1324 Margaret Gernon b 1304 d 1352 daughter of Sir John Gernon of Launton, Oxford b 1277 -2-2-2 Thomas Gresley -2-2-3 Peter Gresley -2-2-4 Edmund Gresley -2-2-5 Sir Robert Gresley -2-2-6 Roger Gresley -2-2-7 Sir John Gresley |
-1-1-1-1 Sir Humphrey Stafford b about 1350 IGI
shows this Sir Humphrey as third son of Edmund de Stafford, 1st Lord. BE1883
shows him as the heir of Sir John son of William of Bromshull and elder
brother of the Ralph who was ancestor of the Staffords of Grafton and also
those of Blatherwycke. We follow BE1883 which identifies his wife merely
as daughter and heir of _ Greinvill m before 1365 Elizabeth Greville dau of Adam Greville
-2-2-1-1 Sir John Gresley Gr20 -2-2-1-2 Sir Nicholas Gresley |
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| Ve24-4 | Rohesia de Vernon
m John Littlebury |
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| Ve23 =24 =27 | Ralph de Vernon of Shipbroke rector of Hanwell Except
for the identification of his son Ralph, the following comes, with some
input from various web sites, largely from Visitation Cheshire,1580, Vernon
- various. We are still in the process of investigating the contradictory
information provided by that and other sources.
m Maude Grosvenor |
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| Ve22 =23 =26 | Ralph
de Vernon of Shipbroke 'the old liver' Ralph
is said to have lived 150 years ! This is surely either a gross exagerration
or a suggestion that there has been some inter-generational confusion.
m Mary Dacre dau of Ranulph de Dacre |
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| Ve21-1 | Radulphus Ralph Vernon of Hanwell
m Margaret St. Petri |
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| A | Rawlin Vernon of Mottram | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| i | Radulphus Ralph Vernon | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| m Agnes Damory dau of Richard Damory, Justice of Chester | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| a | daughter | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| m Hamon le Strange | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Ve21-2 | Richard Vernon rector of Stockport | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Ve21-3 | Thomas Vernon of Lostock
m ?Joan Lostock heiress of Haslington |
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| Ve21 | Rose/Roesia Vernon b c 1260
m Sir William de Brereton b c 1260 |
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| Ve21 =22 =25 | Agatha or Avice Vernon
m Sir Hugh de Venables of Kinderton |
-1 William de Venables b c 1304 dsp
-2 Sir Hugh de Venables of Kinderton b c 1306 m1. Elizabeth Mobberley + 2 ch dau of Sir William Mobberley m2 Katherine Houghton + 3 ch dau of Richard Houghton |
-2-1 William de Venables dvp 1350 m1 sp Agnes Dutton dau of Sir Peter de Dutton of Warburton m2 Maud Vernon dau of Richard de Vernon of Shipbrook -2-2 John de Venables dvp m. Isabel Egerton dau of Philip de Egerton -2-3 Sir Hugh de Venables of Kinderton, Sheriff of Cheshire d 1382-3 m. Margery Cotton dau of Perkin or Hugh de Cotton -2-4 Roger de Venables of Golborne a 1380 m. Elizabeth Golborne dau of William Golborne of Golborne -2-5 Joan Venables m. Sir Thomas de Latham |
-2-3-1 Sir Richard Venables of Kinderton d 23.07.1403 m. Isabel Langton dau of Rawlin de Langton of Newton and Walton -2-3-2 Thomas Venables of Horton ancestor of Venables of Horton and Ayton -2-3-3 William Venables, later of Golborne Constable of Chester m. Blanche -2-3-4 Ellen Venables m. Thomas Erdeswick -2-3-5 Emily or Angella Venables This is probably the Amilia, wife of Sir William Brereton, who is shown by Ormerod as being of 2 generations earlier. m 1386 William Brereton -2-3-6 Isabel Venables m. David Egerton son of Philip -2-3-7 Margery Venables b c 1370 m1 Richard Bulkeley of Cheadle m2 1393 Randle Mainwaring of Over Peover b c 1368, d 1456 -2-5-1 Isabel de Latham m 1385 Sir John de Stanley b 1340, d 1414 |
-2-3-7-1 Sir John Mainwaring of Over Peover d before 1481 Visitation 1580 shows Sir John's wife as Margaret Tuchett, dau of Lord Audley, and shows Mary Delves as first wife of their son William. We follow BP1934 & BLG1952 in showing the marriages as follows ... m1 1411 Margaret Delves dau of John Delves of Doddington -2-3-7-2 William Mainwaring of Ightfield b c1396, d 1499 m Margaret Warren dau of John Warren -2-3-7-3 Randle Mainwaring of Kirmincham or Carincham m Margaret Savage dau of Sir John Savage of Stainesby and Clifton -2-3-7-4 Hugh Mainwaring or Manwaring of Croxton m Warren Croxton dau of _ Croxton of Croxton -2-3-7-5 Elizabeth Mainwaring -2-3-7-6 Cicely Mainwaring m Thomas Fowlehurst of Crewe -2-3-7-7 Joan Mainwaring m 1411 John Davenport of Davenport -2-3-7-8 Ellen Mainwaring m Thomas Fitton of Gawsworth -2-3-7-9 Agnes Mainwaring d unm -2-3-7-10 Margaret Mainwaring m1 William Bromley of Boddington family m2 Sir John Nidham judge in Chester -2-3-7-11 Clemence Mainwaring mentioned by various web sites m 1413 William Beeston of Beeston d 1416 -2-3-7-12 Maud Mainwaring possibly of this generation m William Poole of Poole a 1429 -2-3-7-13 Alice Mainwaring possibly of this generation m William Richard de Spurstowe |
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| partner unknown Cecilia Crew ? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Ve21-6 | Richard Vernon | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Ve21-6-1 | Radulphus Ralph Vernon 'of Shipbrok'
=? m Ellen Mainwaring b c 1370 |
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| i | Agnes Vernon
m Sir William Atherton d 29.12.1414 |
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| Ve21-6-2 | Richard Vernon | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| m Isabel Malbank dau of Piers Malbank | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| i | Sir Richard Vernon | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| a | Johanna Vernon a 1423 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| m Robert de Foulshurst | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ii | Sir Ralph Vernon | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| m Mary Butler dau of Sir Thomas Butler of Bewsy | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| a | Ralph Vernon of Shipbroke | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| m Elizabeth Norris dau of Norris of Speke | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 1 | Dorothy Vernon | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| m Sir John Savage | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Ve21-7 | Robert Vernon, | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Ve21-8 | Peter Vernon, | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Ve21-9 | William Vernon, | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Ve21-10 | Maud Vernon | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Ve22-2 | Richard de Vernon | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| m2? | Cecilia Crew | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Ve22-3 | Lucia Vernon | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Ve23-3 | Mathew de Vernon of Bricklin | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Ve23-4 | claimed to be here was:
Alice Vernon b 1212 Northwich Cheshire m Richard Baguley b 1196 Baguley Bucklow Cheshire son of John Baguley and Helen |
-1 Ralph Baguley b 1230 Baguley m Alice de Massey b 1233 Knowsley Lancashire dau of Hamon de Massey and Matilda Timperly | -1-1 Robert Baggelegh b c 1265 Baguley m Margaret de Dutton b c 1273 dau of Edward | -1-1-1 Sir William Baguley b 1300 Cheadle Cheshire d c 1350 Stockport Cheshire m Clemence Cheadle b by 1312 Cheadle d c 1350 Cheshire | -1-1-1-1 Isabel Baggaleigh/Baggiley
-1-1-1-2 John de Baguley -1-1-1-3 John Baguley |
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| Ve23-5 | claimed to be here was
Richard Veronon b 1230 Shipbroke (possible confusion with nephew!) |
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| Ve23-6 | Nicholas Vernon b 1218 d 1290 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Ve23-7? | Margaret de Vernon possibly of this generation
m Ranulph de Bostock |
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| Ve24-2 | Sir William de Vernon of Haddon b c 1225 Shipbrook Cheshire a 1231
m Margery de Stokeport b c 1220 Stokeport Cheshire d 1294 dau of |
+1 Sir Robert de Stokeport
m Matilda Banastra b c 1190 |
+2 Robert FitzWalther of Bredbury, Brinnington and Echells
+2 Robert de Bancestre of Newton-le-Willows b c 1142 Newton 'Willows Makerfield Lancashire d c 1192 Walton Manor |
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| i | Sir Richard de Vernon b c 1232 Nether Haddon Bakewell Derby d c 1263 a 1252
m Margaret de Vipont b c 1230 Appleby WEstmoreland d c 1324 |
+1 Sir John de Vipont, Baron of Appleby and Essindine
m Sybil de Ferrers b 25 Jul 1216 Derbyshire d c 1247 she m2 Frank de Mohun of Midhurst d 14.09.1273 |
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+2 Sir William de Ferrers, 4th Earl of Derby m Agnes de Kevelioc b c 1174 Tutbury Castle d 2 Nov 1247 Stowe-by-Chartley Stafford |
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+3 Hugh de Kevelioc, 5th Earl of Chester m Bertrade d´Evereux de Monfort |
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| a | Sir Richard de Vernon of Nether Haddon and Harlaston b c 1253 d aft 1330
m1 Alionore de Frenes/?Fiennes dau of Giles de Frenes |
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| m2 Juliana de Vesci b c 1253 Alnwick Castle Northumberland dau of
-a John de Vesci, Lord of Alnwick b 18 Jul 1244 Alnwick Castle d 10 Feb 1288 Montpellier Herault FR -b William de Vesci b19 Sep 1245 Alnwick Castle d 19 Jul 1297 Malton Priory Yorkshire m after 25.07.1266 Isabel de Periton a 1313 dau of Adam de Periton -c Agnes de Vesci b c 1247 Buckton m Robert de Buckton had Gilbert -d Sarah de Vesci b 1236 Alnwick Castle (by Isabel de Longespee of Salisbury) m Sir Robert de Ufford Justiciar had issue |
+1 William de Vesci or Vesey b c 16 May 1205 Alnwick d there 7 Oct 1253
m1 Isabel de Longespee m2 Agnes de Ferrers b c 1222 Tutbury Burton-on-Trent Stafford d 11 May 1290 Greyfriars Scarborough York |
+2 Eustace de Vesci b c 1250 Alnwick Castle k Siege of Barnard Castle Durham Lord of Alnwick Castle and Magna Carta Surety
m Margaret nic Uilliam +2 William de Ferrers, 5th Earl of Derby d 24/8.03.1254 m1 by 14.05.1219 Sybil Marshal b 1203/9 Pembroke d 17.01.1240 dau of |
+3 William FitzEustace de Vesci
m Burga de Stuteville +3 William 'the Lion', King of Scots +3 William Mareschal, 1st Earl of Pembroke m Isabel de Clare heiress of Pembroke |
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| 1 | Sir Richard de Vernon, Lord a 1311, dvp before 03.02.1322/3
m Matilda Camville dau of Sir William Camville of Aston |
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| A | Sir William de Vernon of Nether Haddon and Harlaston b 1312-3
m Margaret dau of Robert, Baron of Stopford |
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| i | Sir Richard de Vernon of Haddon and Harlaston b 1370, d 1401 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| m Johanna Stackpole dau/coheir of Richard Stackpole | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| BP1934 identifies Johanna as sister of Isabella, wife of Rese ap Griffith. Joan Griffith, heiress of Stacpole, is shown by Griffith records as married to Richard Vernon. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| a | Sir Richard Vernon of Haddon b 1394-5, d 1451, Speaker | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| m Benedicta Ludlowe dau of Sir John Ludlowe | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 1 | Sir William Vernon of Haddon b 1416, d 1467 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| m Margaret Swynfen dau of Sir William Swynfen | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| b | son | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| c | Margaret de Vernon d 1486 probably of this generation | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| m1 Richard Longueville of Wootton dvp c1444 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| m2 Sir Richard Roos or Ros of Whitefriers poet | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| d | Agnes de Vernon possibly of this generation | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| m John Cokayne of Ashborne | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| B | Isabella de Vernon
m 1337 Sir Richard Stafford |
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| C | Reported by geni.com was also:
Joan de Vernon b c 1298 ?Hornington Wilts named by TCP as just Joan m Sir William Stourton of Stourton b c 1270 a 1325 TCP reports that this William may well have been son of Ralph and that from this William "thereafter the pedigree is clear", although as noted there are some queries regarding some of the wives. |
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| C-1 | John Stourton, Lord de Stourton b c 1334 Stourton with Gasper, Mere Wilts he m1 Lettice
m2 Alice de ?Stourton d by 9 Feb 1407 (stirnet shows his wife as Catherine Beaumont dau of Henry Beaumont, 3rd Lord) |
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| Ve26-3+ | other issue - Ralph dsp, priest, Robert | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Ve31-2. | Walter de Vernon to England | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Sources: BP1934 Vernon + Visitation Cheshire, 1580, Vernon
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