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On Valence of Pembroke, Vipont of Appleby, de Valoniis there are a few members of a branch
of the family of Valoines that moved to Scotland. There
may be an as yet unknown connection between that family and this family .
2 Collins 1741, vol 3, Wallop, Viscount Lymington mentions that this family descended from the following Peter "who was in such Favour with William the Conqueror, that he is mentioned in Domesday Book, to be possessed of twelve Lordships in Essex, in Cambridgeshire one, in Lincolnshire one, in Hertfortshire sic seventeen, in Norfolk twenty, and in Suffolk six; in which County his Descendants had their chief Residence, making the Castle of Orford the Head or Capital Seat of their Barony". Va28 =29. Enguerrand II Count of Ponthieu 1005? - 1046 Adelaide of Normandy 1030? - 1082? had issue | Robert 'the Devil', Duke of Normandy b c999, d 02.07.1035
p: Herlette/Herleva/Arlette de Falaise dau of William the tanner, wife of Herluin, Viscount of Conteville |
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Va27 =28.
Peter de Valoines b before 1046 d a 1086
m Alreda de Rye dau of Eudo de Rye, dapifer to Henry I |
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Va26=27 | Robert de Valoines b about 1080 | |||||||||||||||
Va26 | Theobald de Valoins of Parham, Suffolk b about 1120 | |||||||||||||||
Va25 | Bertha de Valoines b about 1145 |
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m Ralph de Glanville d 1190-1, Lord Chief Justice |
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Va25-1 | Maud Matilda de Valoines | |||||||||||||||
m Hervey Walter | ||||||||||||||||
Va26-2. | Roger de Valoines b about 1085 | |||||||||||||||
m Agnes | ||||||||||||||||
Va26-2-1 | Robert de Valoines | |||||||||||||||
The following is supported by TCP Thorpe of Norfolk & TCP Ufford except that they identify Sir Robert m. Eve as grandson of the following John without naming the intermediary generation. | ||||||||||||||||
Va26-2-2. | John de Valoines of Hickley, Suffolk b about 1125 | |||||||||||||||
m Isabel de Creke dau of Sir Robert de Creke of North Creke by Agnes de Glanville | ||||||||||||||||
i. | Robert de Valoines of Hickley & Orford b about 1165 | |||||||||||||||
m Rohesia dau of William le Blund b about 1096 | ||||||||||||||||
a. | Sir Robert de Valoines of Orford Castle, lord of Walsham b about 1215 d 1281-2 | |||||||||||||||
The Glanville book identifies Robert's wife as Eve de Creketot. TCP identifies her as ... | ||||||||||||||||
m Eve possibly dau of _ Criketot of Ousden, widow of Nicholas Tregoz of Tolleshunt D'Arcy | ||||||||||||||||
1 | Rohesia Rose de Valoines | |||||||||||||||
m Sir Edmund de Pakenham | ||||||||||||||||
2 | Cecily de Valoines b c1281, d 16.07.1325 | |||||||||||||||
m before 1298 Sir Robert de Ufford, 1st Lord b 11.06.1279, d by 09.09.1316 | ||||||||||||||||
Collins 1741, vol 3, Wallop, Viscount Lymington reports that the following branch was connected to the above family. Provisionally, and completely arbitrarily, we show it as branching from this generation. | ||||||||||||||||
Va26-2-3. | ?? de Valoines | |||||||||||||||
Uncertain on number of intervening generations. | ||||||||||||||||
i. | ?? de Valoines | |||||||||||||||
a. | Sir William Valoynes of Farley a temp King Henry III who r. 1216-1272 | |||||||||||||||
1 | John Valoynes of Farley | |||||||||||||||
i | Nicholas Valoynes of Farley Mortimer and Clydesden | |||||||||||||||
a | Margaret Valoynes | |||||||||||||||
m Thomas Wallop, younger of Wallop dvp before 1437 | ||||||||||||||||
Va26 | Muriel de Valoines | |||||||||||||||
m | Hubert de Mountchesney Mo26 | |||||||||||||||
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Hugh FitzRalph of Greasley and Ilkeston | ||||||||||||||||
m Agnes de Gresel dau of Ralph de Gresel of Greasley and Middle Claydon | ||||||||||||||||
1. | Ralph FitzHugh | |||||||||||||||
m _ de la Haye sister of Piers de la Haye of Arlington | ||||||||||||||||
A. | Hugh FitzRalph, lord of Greseley or Greasley dsp? | |||||||||||||||
B. | Eustache | |||||||||||||||
m1 Nicholas de Cantilupe of Ilkestone d before 24.09.1266 | ||||||||||||||||
m2 Sir William de Ros of Ingmanthorpe | ||||||||||||||||
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Sir Ralph Nevill of Candall Kendal? | ||||||||||||||||
m _Deyvill dau of _ Deyvill of Condall | ||||||||||||||||
The Harleian editor provides a note to report that the Visitation omitted 2 generations Sir Alexander and Sir William, father of Ralph. It is a presumption that the following Sir Humphrey fits around here. | ||||||||||||||||
1. | Sir Humphrey Nevill of Thornton Bridge possibly fits here | |||||||||||||||
Sir Humphrey is identified as father of the following Catherine in Visitation Yorkshire, 1563-4, Fairfax, BE1883 Fairfax and Commoners vol ii, Fairfax of Gilling Castle, the last reporting her second marriage. | ||||||||||||||||
A. | Catherine Nevill | |||||||||||||||
m1 William Fairfax of Walton d 1453 | ||||||||||||||||
m2 Sir Richard Percy brother of Henry, Earl of Northumberland | ||||||||||||||||
2. | Sir Alexander Nevill d before 25.06.1437 | |||||||||||||||
m Catherine Eure dau of Sir Ralph Eure | ||||||||||||||||
A. | Sir William Nevill of Thornton Bridge | |||||||||||||||
m Joan Jane Boynton dau of Christopher Boynton | ||||||||||||||||
i. | Ralph Nevill of Thornton Bridge | |||||||||||||||
m Anne Gaskon dau of Sir William Gaskon who married dau of Earl of Northumberland | ||||||||||||||||
a. | Ralph Nevill of Thornton Bridge | |||||||||||||||
m Anne Warde dau of Sir Christopher Warde of Givendale | ||||||||||||||||
1 | Katherine Nevill b 1499 | |||||||||||||||
m1 c1515 Sir Walter not William Stryckland b 1497, d 09.01.1528 | ||||||||||||||||
Thanks to a site visitor TPL, 27.09.07 for reporting that Katherine also married ... | ||||||||||||||||
m2 Henry Burgham Brougham of Burgham | ||||||||||||||||
m3. ?? Darcy "of the house of Menell" | ||||||||||||||||
A | Frances Darcy | |||||||||||||||
m Peter Gobard of Picardy d c1567 below | ||||||||||||||||
m4. William Knyvett | ||||||||||||||||
2 | Jone Nevill b 1500, d after 1551 | |||||||||||||||
m Sir John Counstable of Holdernes d 04.05.1542 | ||||||||||||||||
3 | Clare Nevill b 1507 | |||||||||||||||
m Sir Thomas Nevell of Holt d 1569 | ||||||||||||||||
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Peter Gobard of Picardy d c1567 | ||||||||||||||||
Visitation reports that Peter's ancestors "were men of great comaund sic, and possessions in that countrie France, cam into England in the tyme of H.8 and was servant to the said King, lived in the City of Londo' and died in anno 1567 or thereabout". | ||||||||||||||||
m1 ?? | ||||||||||||||||
1.+ | "divers children" dsp | |||||||||||||||
m2 Frances Darcy dau of ?? Darcy by Katherine Nevill above | ||||||||||||||||
2. | John Gobard or Gobart of Coventry a 1620 | |||||||||||||||
m Lucy Smith dau of Erasmus Smith of family of Witcot | ||||||||||||||||
A. | Frances Gobard | |||||||||||||||
m Thomas Barrington son of Sir Francis, Bart | ||||||||||||||||
B. | Anna Gobard | |||||||||||||||
m Thomas Leigh son of Urian of Adlington | ||||||||||||||||
C. | Lucy Gobard | |||||||||||||||
m Calcot Chabrie of Williamscot |
Sources:
1 'Records of the Anglo-Norman House of Glanville'
see Glanville 1,
2 TCP Cauntelo
3 Visitation Yorkshire, 1563-4, Nevill section
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4 Visitation Warwickshire, 1619, Gobard
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