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Sudeley 1: Sudeley of Ewyas Ewias, Sudeley of Sudeley, Sudeley of Toddington, Boteler of Sudeley
| Su30. Ralph de Sudeley 'of Hereford' d 02.12.1057 | |||||||||||||||
| TCP reports that, contrary to various reports, although Ralph had some association with Hereford, he was never actually created Earl of Hereford. | |||||||||||||||
| m Getha or Gythia possibly dau of Osgood Clapa | |||||||||||||||
| Su29 | Harold FitzRalph of Sudeley, Ewyas and Toddington | ||||||||||||||
| 1 BE1883 reports that some authorities
report that Harold was an illegitimate son of King
Harold. We follow TCP.
2 TCP reports that Harold's wife is unknown. Various sources on the Tracy family identify her as ... |
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| m Maud dau of Hugh 'Lupus' de Abrincis, Earl of Chester | |||||||||||||||
| Su28 | John de Sudeley of Sudeley and Toddington | ||||||||||||||
| m Grace de Tracy dau of William de Tracy | |||||||||||||||
| www.wyverngules.com inserts an additional generation here, a Ralph a 1155, but TCP & BE1883 do not. | |||||||||||||||
| Su27 | Ralph de Sudeley of Sudeley d before 25.12.1192 | ||||||||||||||
| m Emma de Beauchamp dau of William de Beauchamp of Elmley | |||||||||||||||
| Su26-1 | Otuel or Otwell de Sudeley of Sudeley dsp 1198 | ||||||||||||||
| m Margaret | |||||||||||||||
| Su26 | Ralph de Sudeley of Sudeley d before 26.02.1221/2 | ||||||||||||||
| m Isabel Berry identifies Ralph's wife as an unnamed daughter of Raffe Fitz Peirce | |||||||||||||||
| Su25 | Ralph de Sudeley of Sudeley d by 19.03.1241/2 | ||||||||||||||
| m per TCP Imenia or per BE1883 Isabel dau of Roger Corbet of Chadesley | |||||||||||||||
| Su24 | Bartholomew de Sudeley of Sudeley, Sheriff of Herefordshire d 1274 or by 29.06.1280 | ||||||||||||||
| m Joan de Beauchamp dau of William de Beauchamp of Elmley | |||||||||||||||
| Su23 | John de Sudeley, 1st Lord d by 18.04.1336 | ||||||||||||||
| m ?? Saye dau of William de Saye of Sele | |||||||||||||||
| Su22 | Bartholomew de Sudeley dvp before 02.10.1326 | ||||||||||||||
| m Maud de Montfort d by 02.10.1326, dau of John de Montfort of Beaudesert, 1st Lord | |||||||||||||||
| Su21 | John de Sudeley, 2nd Lord d by 19.02.1339/40 | ||||||||||||||
| m Eleanor de Scales d 06.09.1361, dau of Robert Scales, 2nd Lord | |||||||||||||||
| Su20-1 | John de Sudeley, 3rd Lord b c1338, d 11.08.1367 | ||||||||||||||
| Su20 | Joane de Sudeley | ||||||||||||||
| m Sir William le Boteler below | |||||||||||||||
| Su20-3 | Margery de Sudeley dsp | ||||||||||||||
| m Sir Robert Massy | |||||||||||||||
| Su27-1 | William de Tracy of Toddington | ||||||||||||||
| Mentioned in the below-mentioned article on the Origins of the Drakes of Devon was ... | |||||||||||||||
| Su27-3 | Margery | ||||||||||||||
| m Roger Parvus | |||||||||||||||
| a. | Hugh Parvus | ||||||||||||||
| Su28-2 | Robert FitzHarold de Sudeley of Ewyas or Ewias a 1147 | ||||||||||||||
| BE1883 shows this Robert as father of Sybilla but www.wyverngules.com and 'RoyalData' report an intervening generation. | |||||||||||||||
| m Sybil | |||||||||||||||
| i. | Robert de Sudeley of Ewyas d c1195 | ||||||||||||||
| m Petronilla | |||||||||||||||
| a. | Sybilla de Sudeley of Ewyas d c06.1236 |
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| m1 Robert de Tregoz of Lydiard, Sheriff of Wiltshire d before 29.04.1215 |
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| m2 Roger de Clifford d c1286 |
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| An article on the Origins of the Drakes of Devon, by Charles E. Drake in Genealogists' Magazine March 2005, identifies the following additional members of this family as does www.wyverngules.com. | |||||||||||||||
| Su28-3 | William FitzHarold possibly father of ... | ||||||||||||||
| i. | Humphrey FitzWilliam of Drakenage d c1190 | ||||||||||||||
| Su28-4+ | other issue - Roger, Alexander | ||||||||||||||
| Bo20. Sir William le Boteler | |||||||||||||||
| As reported on 'Butler06', unlike various other sites/sources including Berry we are not convinced that this William was one of the Lords of Wemme. Until more comfort is obtained as to how he fits into one of the Butler/Boteler families, we shall continue to show his descendants here. | |||||||||||||||
| m Joane de Sudeley dau of John de Sudeley, 2nd Lord above | |||||||||||||||
| Bo19. | Thomas Boteler of Sudeley d 21.09.1398 | ||||||||||||||
| m by 18.07.1385 Alice d 08.02.1442/3, possibly dau of John de Beauchamp of Powyke | |||||||||||||||
| -1 | John Boteler of Sudeley d unm before 1410 | ||||||||||||||
| Bo18-2 | William Boteler of Sudeley d by 20.12.1417 | ||||||||||||||
| m Alice | |||||||||||||||
| Bo18-3 | Ralph Boteler, Lord Sudeley d 02.05.1473 | ||||||||||||||
| Berry identifies Ralph's wife as Elizabeth, dau of Sir John Norbury, but TCP merely identifies her as ... | |||||||||||||||
| m1 before 06.07.1419 Elizabeth d 28.08.1462, widow of John Hende | |||||||||||||||
| i. | Thomas Boteler dvpsp before 1468 | ||||||||||||||
| Berry identifies Thomas's wife as Elianor, dau of John Lord, Earl of Salop presumablyJohn Talbot, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury , but TCP merely identifies her as ... | |||||||||||||||
| m Eleanor Talbot d 30.06.1468, sister of Sir John Talbot | |||||||||||||||
| Berry shows Thomas as having 3 daughters: Elizabeth & Joane, shown by TCP as his 2 paternal aunts, and Elianor who married Thomas Montgomery of Sokborne who is not mentioned by TCP. | |||||||||||||||
| m2 1463 Alice Deincourt dau of William d'Eyncourt, 13th Lord | |||||||||||||||
| Bo18 | Elizabeth Boteler | ||||||||||||||
| m Sir John Norbury of Norbury | |||||||||||||||
| The following connection is given by Visitation Bedfordshire, 1634, Bray, Lord Bray with supplemental detail given by various web sites eg. Leo van de Pas's www.genealogics.org, | |||||||||||||||
| No17 | Sir Henry Norbury of Stoke Dabernon d 1464 | ||||||||||||||
| m Anne Crozier dau of William Crozier of Stoke d'Abernon | |||||||||||||||
| No16 | Sir John Norbury of Stoke Dabernon | ||||||||||||||
| m Joan Gilbert dau of Thomas Gilbert | |||||||||||||||
| No15 | Jane Norbury | ||||||||||||||
| m Sir Richard Halliwell of Holwell son of John Halywell | |||||||||||||||
| Ha14 | Jane Halliwell | ||||||||||||||
| m Edmund Braye,1st Lord b c1484, d 18.10.1539 son of John not Richard Bray of Eaton Braye | Br13-1 John Braye, 2nd Lord b c1523, dsp 19.11.1557 m m
Anne Talbot d 03 Feb 1584, dau of Francis Talbot, 5th Earl of Shrewsbury
Br13-2 Anne Braye d 01.11.1558 m before 1526 George Brooke, 9th Lord Cobham b c1497, d 29 Sep 1558 Br13-3 Elizabeth Braye b about 1508 d 1573 m Sir Ralph Verney of Pendley and Middle Claydon d 1546 Br13 Frideswide Braye b about 1510 m Sir Percival Hart of Lullingstone Br13-5 Mary Braye d 1569 mm Sir Robert Peckham Br13-6 Dorothy Braye b c1530, d 31.10.1605 m c 1548 Edmund Brydges, 2nd Lord Chandos of Sudeley b before 1522, d 11 Mar 1572/3 Br13-7 Frances Braye d 1592 m Thomas Lyfield of Stoke d'Auberon and had Jane Lyfield m Sir Thomas Vincent of Bernack and Stoke D'Abernon |
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| No16-2 | Elizabeth Norbury reported on some web sites | ||||||||||||||
| m1 Sir Thomas Uvedale | |||||||||||||||
| m2 William Sidney | |||||||||||||||
| Bo18-5 | Joane Boteler | ||||||||||||||
| m Hamond Belknap | |||||||||||||||
Sources: TCP Sudeley, BE1883 Sudeley: contradiction in Berry's Essex
Pedigrees 1878, Cooke.
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