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Plantagenet 2

: Beaufort of Somerset, Plantagenet of England, Plantagenet of Kent, Plantagenet of York
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As mentioned on Plantagenet1, it appears that the first of this family to actually use Plantagenet as a name was Richard, 3rd Duke of York.
Edward Plantagenet, 'Longshanks', King Edward I of England b 17.06.1239, d 08.07.1307 §A
m1 18.10.1254 Eleanor of Castille b 1240/41, d 29.11.1290, dau of Fernando III, King of Castile and Leon, etc ancestors line W part
1. Eleanor Plantagenet b 18.06.1269, d 29.08.1297
GS
m1 Alfonso III 'el Liberal', King of Aragon, Sicilty, etc b 1265, dsp 18.07.1291
m2 20.09.1293 Henry III, Count of Bar d 1302
GS
2. Joan Plantagenet 'of Acre' b 1272, d 07/23.04.1307
Y
m1 30.04.1290 Gilbert de Clare, 'the Red', Earl of Gloucester and Hertford b 02.09.1243, d 07.12.1295
Y
m2 1297 Sir Ralph de Monthermer, 1st Lord b by 1290, d 05.04.1325
A. Thomas de Monthermer, 2nd Lord b 04.10.1301, d Sluys 24.06.1340
m Margaret d 05.1349, probably widow of Henry, Lord Theyes
i. Margaret de Monthermer b 14.10.1329, d 24.03.1394/5
m Sir John de Montacute, 1st Lord Montacute a 1389
B. Edward de Monthermer of Warblington, Lord d unm by 03.02.1339/40
C. Mary de Monthermer b c1298
m 11.1307 Duncan, 10th Earl of Fife b c1285, d 1353
3. Margaret Plantagenet b 15.03.1275, d 1333
GJ
m 09.07.1290 John II, Duke of Brabant b after 1273, d 27.12.1312
GJ
4. Elizabeth Plantagenet b 07.08.1282, d 05.05.1316
m1 1297 John I, Count of Holland d 1299
m2 14.11.1302 Humphrey de Bohun, 4th Earl of Hereford, Earl of Essex, Constable of England b c1276, d 16.03.1321
5. Edward Plantagenet, King Edward II of England b 25.04.1284, d 21.09.1327, 4th son
m 25.01.1308 Isabella of France b 1295, d 22.08.1358, dau of Philip IV 'le Bel', King of Francexancestors line W part
A. Edward Plantagenet, King Edward III of England b 13.11.1312, d 21.06.1377
m 24.01.1328 Philippa of Hainault b 24.06.1311, d 15.08.1369, dau of William III d'Avesnes, Count of Hainault and Hollandancestors line W part
i. Edward Plantagenet, Prince of Wales, 'the Black Prince', Duke of Cornwall b 15.06.1330, d 08.06.1376
m 10.10.1361 Joan Plantagenet, Countess of Kent b 29.09.1328, d 08.08.1385 below
a. Edward Plantagenet b 27.01.1365, dvp 1372
b. Richard Plantagenet, King Richard II of England b 06.01.1367, d 1400
m1 1382 Anna of Bohemia b 11.07.1366, d 07.06.1394
m2 1396 Isabelle of France b 1389, d 1409, dau of Charles VI, King of France
p. Edith de Willesford name found on various web sites
c. Sir Roger de Clarendon d 1402 had issue see Smith05
m Margaret Fleming d 1382, dau of John Fleming, Lord de La Roche
ii. Isabel Plantagenet b 16.06.1332, d before 07.10.1382
GS
m 27.07.1365 Enguerand VII de Coucy b 1342, d 1397
GS
iii. Lionel Plantagenet, Duke of Clarence, Earl of Ulster b 29.11.1338, d 17.10.1368
m1 09.1342 Elizabeth de Burgh b 06.07.1332, d 10.12.1363, dau of William de Burgh, 3rd Earl of Ulster
a. Philippa Plantagenet, Countess of Ulster b 16.08.1355, d after 1378
Y
m after 1368 Edmund de Mortimer, 3rd Earl of March b 01.02.1352, d 27.12.1381
Y
m2 28.05.1368 Violante Visconti b c1353, d 1386, dau of Galeazzo II Visconti of Milan
iv. John Plantagenet 'of Gaunt', Earl of Richmond, Duke of Lancaster, Duke of Aquitaine, King of Castile b 24.06.1340, d 03.02.1399
m1 19.05.1359 Blanche Plantagenet b 25.03.1345, d 12.09.1369, dau of Henry Plantagenet, 4th Earl of Lancaster
a. Philippa Plantagenet b 31.03.1360, d 19.07.1415
m 11.02.1387 Joao I 'the False', King of Portugal b 11.04.1358, d 14.08.1433
b. Elizabeth Plantagenet b by 21.02.1364, d 24.11.1425
m1 1384 John Holand, Earl of Huntingdon, Duke of Exeter d 1400
m2 sp Sir John Cornwall, Lord Fanhope d 1443
c. Henry Plantagenet 'Bolingbroke', King Henry IV of England b 30.05.1366, d 21.03.1412-3, 4th son
m1 Mary de Bohun d 04.07.1394, dau of Humphry de Bohun, Earl of Northampton, Hereford and Essex
1 Henry Plantagenet, King Henry V of England b 09.08.1387, d 31.08.1422
m 02/3.06.1420 Catherine of France b 27.10.1401, d 03.01.1437/8, dau of Charles VI, King of France
A Henry Plantagenet, King Henry VI of England b 06.12.1421, d c05.1471
m 22.04.1445 Margaret of Anjou b 1429, d 1482, dau of Regnier, Duke of Anjou, King of Sicily & Jerusalem
i Edward Plantagenet, Prince of Wales b 13.10.1453, dspvp Tewkesbury 04.05.1471
m 08.1470 Anne Nevill d 16.03.1485, dau of Richard, Earl of Warwick
2 Thomas Plantagenet, Duke of Clarence b 01.10.1388, dsp Beauje 22.03.1421
m 1411 Margaret Holand d 30.12.1429, dau of Thomas Holand, 2nd Earl of Kent
3 John Plantagenet, Duke of Bedford b 20.06.1389, dsp 15.09.1435
m1 mcrt 15.05.1423 Anne of Burgundy d 14.11.1432, dau of John, Duke of Burgundy
m2 20.04.1433 Jaquetta d 30.05.1472, dau of Pierre I, Count of Luxembourg-St. Pol, de Brienne et di Conversano
4 Humphrey Plantagenet, Duke of Gloucester b 03.10.1390, dspl 23.02.1447
m 1428 Eleanor Cobham d 1454, dau of Reginald de Cobham, 3rd Lord of Sterborough
partner unknown
A Antigone
m Sir Henry Grey, 2nd Count of Tankerville d 1449
5 Blanche Plantagenet
m 1402 Louis, Duke of Bavaria
6 Philippa Plantagenet dsp
m 1405 Eric, King of Denmark
m2 1403 Joan of Navarre d 10.06.1437, dau of Charles II, King of Navarre
d.+ other issue - John b c1362, d c1365, Edward b c1365, d c1368, John b before 04.05.1366, d young, Isabel b c1368
m2 06.1371 Constanza, Queen of Castile b 1354, d 24.03.1394, dau of Pedro I 'the Cruel', King of Castile and Leon
h. Katharine Plantagenet b 1372, d 02.06.1418
m 1393/7 Enrique III 'el Doliente', King of Castile and Leon b 04.10.1379, d 25.12.1406
i. John Plantagenet b 1374, d 1375
m3. 13.01.1396 Catherine de Roet b 1350, d 10.05.1403, dau of Sir Payne Roet
Catherine had been John of Gaunt's mistress and bore his children before they married. The children were legitimized with express exclusion of Royal succession.
Pl18 =20 =23 John Beaufort, 1st Earl of Somerset, Marquess of Somerset b 1371-2, d 21.04.1410/16.03.1409/10
m before 28.09.1397 Margaret Holand d 30.12.1429, dau of Thomas Holand, 2nd Earl of Kent
Pl17-1 Henry Beaufort, 2nd Earl of Somerset bpt 26.11.1401, d unm 25.11.1418
Pl17-2 Jane or Joan Beaufort d 15.07.1445
m1 1423 James Stewart, King James I of Scots b 12.1394, d 21.02.1437
-1 Alexander Stewart
-2 James Stewart, King James II of Scots b 16.10.1430, d 03.08.1460
-3 Margaret Stewart b 25.12.1424, dsp 16.08.1444 m 24.06.1436 King Louis XI of France b 03.07.1423, d 30.08.1483
-4 Isabella Stewart m 30.10.1442 Francois I, Duke of Brittany b 1414, d 1450
-5 Annabella Stewart b c1432, d 1509 m 10.03.1459, div 24.07.1471 George Gordon, 2nd Earl of Huntly d c08.06.1501, Chancellor of Scotland
-6 Mary Stewart m 1444 Woltaert van Borselen, Count of Grandpre, Lord of Campvere
-7 Eleanor Stewart dsp 04.03.1496 m 12.02.1449 Sigismund von Tirol, Duke of Austria
-8 Johanna Stewart b 1431, d after 1493 m by 05.1459 James Douglas, 1st Earl of Morton d by 22.10.1492
m2 Sir James Stewart "the Black Knight of Lorn"
..
Pl22 John Beaufort, Duke of Somerset b before 25.04.1404, d 27.05.1444
m c1442 Margaret Beauchamp dau of John de Beauchamp, 3rd Lord of Bletsho
Be21 Margaret Beaufort b 31.05.1443, d 1509
m1 div John de la Pole, Duke of Suffolk
m2 1455 Edmund Tudor Tu21 of Hadham, 1st Earl of Richmond d 1456
H
Their son Henry Tudor Tu20 became King Henry VII of England.
m3. Sir Henry Stafford
m4. sp Thomas Stanley, 1st Earl of Derby d 29.07.1504
partner unknown
Pl21-2 Thomasine or Tacine
m Sir Reginald Grey, 7th Lord of Wilton d 22.02.1493/4
Pl17-4 Thomas Beaufort, Earl of Perche b 1405, d 1432
Pl17 Edmund Beaufort, 1st Duke of Somerset b 1406, d 22.05.1455
Although Edmund inherited the earldom of Somerset from his brother John, his dukedom was a new creation.
m before 1436 Alianore Beauchamp b 1407, d 06.03.1466/7, dau of Richard Beauchamp, 5th Earl of Warwick
Pl16-1 Henry Beaufort, 2nd Duke of Somerset b 26.01.1436, d 16.05.1464
partner: Joane Hill
i Charles Somerset, 1st Earl of Worcester b c1460, d 15.04.1526
m1 02.06.1492 Elizabeth Herbert d 1514, dau of William Herbert, Earl of Huntingdon
m2 Elizabeth West dau of Thomas West, Lord de la Warr
m3. sp Eleanor Sutton dau of Sir Edward Sutton, Lord Dudley
Pl16-2 2 sons - Edmund b 1438, d unm 06.05.1471, John d Tewkesbury 04.05.1471
Pl16-3 Eleanor Alinaore Beaufort d 16.08.1501
m1 04.1458 James Butler, 5th Earl of Ormonde, Lord Deputy of Ireland b 24.11.1420, dsp 01.05.1461
m2 Sir Robert Spencer of Spencer Coombe Spencercombe, Devon
i Catherine Spencer d 10.1542
m before 1502 Henry Algernon Percy, 5th Earl of Northumberland b 1478, d 1527
ii Eleanor or Margaret Spencer
m Thomas Cary of Chilton Foliat d before 21.06.1536
Pl16-4 Joane Beaufort d 11.08.1518
m1 06/7.1478 Robert St.Lawrence, Lord Howth, Lord Chancellor of Ireland b c1435, d 1486
m2 Sir Richard Fry
Pl16 Anne Beaufort
m Sir William Paston
Pl16-5 Margaret Beaufort
m1 Humphrey de Stafford, Earl of Stafford dvp St. Albans 22.05.1455
m2 Sir Richard Dayrell of Lillingstone Dayrell
Pl16-6 Elizabeth Beaufort d before 1492
m Sir Henry Lewes
Pl17-6 Margaret Beaufort
m Thomas Courtenay, 5th Earl of Devon b 1414, d 03.02.1458
k. Henry Beaufort, Bishop of Lincoln then of Winchester, Cardinal, Lord Chancellor of England b 1375, d 11.04.1447
Thanks to a site visitor MF, 08.02.08 who drew our attention to the fact that the mother of Henry's daughter Jane was probably the following Alice FitzAlan. Wikipedia reports that Henry had an illegitimate daughter called Jane born in 1402 but expresses some scepticism of the view that Alice was her mother.
p. Alice FitzAlan dau of Richard FitzAlan, Earl of Arundel, widow of John Cherleton, Lord Powis who d. 1401
1 Jane Beaufort
m Sir Edward Stradling of St. Donat's a 1422
l. Thomas Beaufort, Duke of Exeter b c01.1377, d 27.12.1417/1426
m before 15.02.1403/4 Margaret Nevil dau of Sir Thomas Nevil of Horneby
1 Henry Beaufort
m Joan Beaufort b 1379, d 1440
Y
m1 Sir Robert de Ferrers, 2nd Lord of Wemme b 1370, d 1410
m2 Ralph Neville of Raby, 1st Earl of Westmorland d 21.10.1425
Y
v. Edmund Plantagenet of Langley, Earl of Cambridge, 1st Duke of York b 05.06.1341, d 01.08.1402
m1 01.03.1372 Isabella of Castile b 1355, d 23.11.1392, dau of Pedro I 'the Cruel', King of Castile and Leon
a. Edward Plantagenet, 2nd Duke of York, Duke of Albermarle b 1373, d Agincourt 25.10.1415
m 1396 Philippa de Mohun d 17.07.1431, dau of John de Mohun, 2nd Lord of Dunster
b. Richard Plantagenet of Conisburgh, Earl of Cambridge b 1375, d 05.08.1415
m1 Anne Mortimer dau of Roger Mortimer, 4th Earl of March
1 Richard Plantagenet, 3rd Duke of York b 21.09.1411, d Wakefield 31.12.1460
m before 18.10.1424 Cecily Nevill d 31.05.1495, dau of Ralph Nevill, 1st Earl of Westmorland
A Edward Plantagenet, King Edward IV of England b 28.04.1441, d 09.04.1483 It seems likely that Edward was not son of the Duke of York but was his mother's bastard, having been conceived when the Duke was away on a military campaign. This is thought to have been part of the reason why Edward's sons, 'the Princes in the Tower', were murdered. After Edward's brother & successor King Richard III had been killed at Bosworth, the crown passed through Edward's daughter Elizabeth into the Tudor family, thereby ending the Wars of the Roses. Had Richard won at Bosworth and not had an heir, Edward may not have been accepted as legitimate and the succession would probably then have passed through their niece Margaret Plantagenet who was married after Bosworth to Sir Richard Pole.
m 01.05.1464 Elizabeth Wydville b c1437, d 06.1492, dau of Sir Richard Wydville, 1st Earl Rivers
i Edward Plantagenet, King Edward V of England b 02.11.1470, d 23.06.1483
ii Richard Plantagenet, Duke of York b 17.08.1473, d 23.06.1483
m 15.01.1477-8 Anne Mowbray b c1472, d 16.01.1480-1, dau of John Mowbray, Duke of Norfolk
iii Elizabeth Plantagenet b 1466, d 11.02.1503ancestors line Y
Y..
m 18.01.1486 Henry Tudor, King Henry VII of England b 26.07.1455, d 22.04.1509
ancestors line H
..
v Cicely Plantagenet b 20.03.1468/9, d 24.08.1507
m1 01.12.1487 John, Viscount Welles dsps 09.02.1498-9
m2 1503 Thomas Kymbe
vii Anne Plantagenet b 02.11.1475, dsps 23.11.1511
m 04.02.1494-5 Thomas Howard, 3rd Duke of Norfolk b 1473, d 25.08.1554
viii Katherine Plantagenet b 1479, d 15.11.1527
m 10.1495 Sir William Courtenay, 'Earl of Devon' d 09.06.1511
ix+ other issue - Mary b 1467, d unm 23.05.1482, Margaret b 19.04.1472, d infant, Bridget b 10.11.1480, d 1517, nun
p. Lady Elizabeth Lucy
xii Elizabeth
m Thomas Lumley dvp 1487
p. probably either the above Elizabeth Lucy as reported by some or Jane Shore or Elizabeth Waite
xiii Arthur Waite, later Plantagenet, Viscount Lisle d 03.03.1541/2
m1 12.11.1511 Elizabeth Grey d c1530, dau of Edward Grey, 1st Viscount L'Isle
a Bridget Plantagenet presumed of this marriage
m Sir Thomas Cawarden
b Frances Plantagenet presumed of this marriage
m1 John Basset of Tehidy and Umberleigh b 1519, d 1541
m2 Thomas Monck of Potheridge
c daughter presumed of this marriage
m2 Honora Granville a 08.1563, dau of Sir Thomas Granville
B Edmond Plantagenet, Earl of Rutland b 17.05.1443, d unm Wakefield 31.12.1460
C George Plantagenet, Duke of Clarence, Earl of Warwick b 21.10.1449, d 18.01.1477
m 11.07.1469 Isabel Nevill b 05.09.1451, d 12.12.1476, dau of Richard Nevill, Earl of Warwick
i Margaret Plantagenet, Countess of Salisbury b c1469, d 27.05.1541
m 22.09.1494 Sir Richard Pole d 11.1504
ii Edward Plantagenet, Earl of Warwick b 21.02.1474-5, d unm 24.11.1499
C Richard Plantagenet, Duke of Gloucester, King Richard III of England b 21.10.1450, d Bosworth 22.08.1485
m 12.07.1472 Anne Nevill d 16.03.1485, dau of Richard Nevill, Earl of Warwick
i Edward Plantagenet, Earl of Salisbury, Prince of Wales b 1473, dvp 31.03.1484
D Anne Plantagenet d 14.01.1475-6
m1 30.07.1447, div 12.11.1472 Henry Holand, 2nd Duke of Exeter d 1473 a staunch Lancastrian. When Edward IV became king, Exeter was attainted & his title & estates were all granted to his soon to be former wife, Anne. -1 Lady Anne Holland d y
m m Thomas Grey, 1st Marquess of Dorset, eldest son of queen Elizabeth Woodville, by her first husband. no issue.
m2 Sir Thomas St. Leger -1 Lady Anne St. Leger, Anne of Exeter is the ancestress of the (Manners) Earls and Dukes of Rutland, (Capel) Earls of Essex, (Russell) Dukes of Bedford - hence also the late Princess of Wales and her sons - & the (Ashley-Cooper) Earls of Shaftsbury, along with countless others.
m Sir George Manners, 12th Baron de Ros.
-1-1 at least 8 children, including 1 son who is forebear to the current Duke of Rutland, David Charles Robert Manners.
-1-2 Lady Eleanor Manners, m John Bourchier,2nd Earl of Bath, & Lady Margaret, m Sir Henry Strang(e)ways.
-1-3+ 4 daughters and 2 sons
E Elizabeth Plantagenet
m 10.1460 John de la Pole, 1st Duke of Suffolk d 1491
F Margaret Plantagenet dsp
m 09.07.1468 Charles 'the Bold', Duke of Burgundy
2 Isabel Plantagenet d 02.10.1484
m Henry Bourchier, 2nd Earl of Ewe, 1st Earl of Essex d 04.04.1483
m2 Maud Clifford dau of Thomas, Lord de Clifford
c. Constance Plantagenet d 28.11.1416
m 1386 Thomas le Despencer, Earl of Gloucester d 17.01.1400
p. Edmund Holand, 4th Earl of Kent b 06.01.1383, d 15.09.1407
m2 before 04.11.1393 Joan Holand b 1380, d 1434, dau of Thomas Holand, 2nd Earl of Kent
vi. Mary Plantagenet b 10.10.1344, dsp 1361/2
m 1361 Jean V, Duke of Bretagne b 1339, d 01.11.1399
vii. Margaret Plantagenet b 20.07.1346, dsp after 01.10.1361
m 19.05.1359 John Hastings, 2nd Earl of Pembroke b 29.08.1347, d 16.04.1375
viii. Thomas Plantagenet of Woodstock, Duke of Gloucester, Earl of Buckingham b 07.01.1355, d 08.09.1397
m 1374 Eleanor de Bohun b 1366, d 03.10.1399, dau of Humphrey de Bohun, Earl of Northampton, Hereford & Essex
a. Humphrey Plantagenet de Bohun, Duke of Gloucester b c1382, d unm 02.09.1399
b. Anne Plantagenet, Countess of Buckingham, Hereford & Northampton b 1383, d 16.10.1438
m1 c1390 Thomas de Stafford, 3rd Earl of Stafford b before 1368, dsp 04.07.1392
m2 c28.06.1398 Edmund de Stafford, 5th Earl of Stafford b 02.03.1377, d Shrewsbury 21.07.1403
m3. 20.11.1405 William Bourchier, 1st Earl of Ewe Eu d 28.05.1420
c. Joan Plantagenet b 1384, d 16.08.1400
m before 20.05.1392, sp Gilbert Talbot, 5th Baron b 1383, d 19.10.1418-9
d.+ other issue - Isabel b 12.03.1386, d 1402, nun, Philippa b c1389, d before 03.10.1399
ix.+ other issue - Joan b c1335, d 1348, William b before 16.02.1337, d 1337, Blanche b/d 1342, William b/d 1348
B. John Plantagenet, Earl of Cornwall b 15.08.1316, d 14.09.1336
C. Eleanor Plantagenet b 08.06.1318, d 22.04.1355
m 1332 Rainald II, Duke of Gueldres d 1343
D. Joan Plantagenet b 05.07.1321, d 07.09.1362
m 17.07.1328 David Bruce, King David II of Scots b 05.03.1324, dsp 22.02.1370
6.+ other issue - daughter b/d 1255, Katherine b before 17.06.1264, d 05.09.1264, Joan b 1265, d before 07.09.1265, John b 13/14.07.1266, d 03.08.1271, Henry b c05.1268, d 14/17.10.1274, daughter b/d 1271/2, Alfonso b 24.11.1273, d 19.08.1284, Earl of Chester, Berengaria b 01.05.1276, d before 27.06.1278, daughter b/d 1278, Mary b 11/12.03.1279, d 29.05.1332, nun, Beatrice b c1286, d young, Blanche b 1290, d young
m2 08.09.1299 Margaret of France b 1275, d 14.02.1317, dau of Philippe III 'le Hardi', King of France
18. Thomas Plantagenet 'de Brotherton', Earl of Norfolk b 01.06.1300, d 1338
m1 c 1320 Alice Hayles d by 1330, dau of Sir Roger Hayles
A. Edward Plantagenet b c 1319, d 1334
m c1327 Beatrice Mortimer d 16.10.1383, dau of Roger of Mortimer, 1st Earl of March
Pl21=22. Margaret Plantagenet, Duchess of Norfolk b c1320, d 24.03.1399
m1 1327 John de Segrave, 4th Lord b 1315, d 1353
m2 before 30.05.1354 Walter, Lord Manny d 1372
i. Anne Manny d 03.04.1384
m John Hastings, 2nd Earl of Pembroke b 29.08.1347, d 16.04.1375
C. Alice Plantagenet b c 1324, d before 16.11.1351
m before 29.08.1338 Edward de Montagu, Lord Montagu b c 1304, d 1361
-1 Edward de Montagu
-2 Elizabeth de Montagu
-3 Audrey de Montagu
-4 Maud de Montagu
-5 Joan de Montagu

-5-1 Robert de Ufford dvpsp c 01.08.1375 m c 28.10.1371 Elizabeth FitzAlan d c 1375, dau of Richard FitzAlan, Earl of Arundel
m2 c 1328 Mary de Ros d 1362, dau of William de Ros, 2nd Lord
19. Edmund Plantagenet, 1st Earl of Kent, Earl of Arundel b 05.08.1301, d 19.03.1330
m 1325 Margaret Wake 'of Liddell' b c 1299, d 29.09.1349, dau of John Wake, 1st Lord
A. Edmund Plantagenet, 2nd Earl of Kent, Baron Woodstock b c1326, d 05.01.1331
B. John Plantagenet, 3rd Earl of Kent, Baron Wake of Liddell b 07.04.1330, dsp 26.12.1352
m c1352 Elisabeth of Julich d 06.06.1411, dau of William, Duke of Julich
C. Margaret Plantagenet b 1327, d before 1352
m Amadeus de la Brette
D. Joan Plantagenet, Countess of Kent b 29.09.1328, d 08.08.1385
m1 before 15.10.1348, annulled 1349 William de Montacute, Earl of Salisbury
m2 1346/8 Thomas Holand, 1st Earl of Kent d 28.12.1360
HJY
m3. 10.10.1361 Edward, Prince of Wales b 15.06.1330, d 08.06.1376 above
20. Eleanor Plantagenet b 04.03.1306, d 1311
GenEU reports the following connection which is interesting because, except for the date of John's death which may have been mixed up with that of the 1st Lord Botetourt, it provides information that does not otherwise overlap with that 1st Lord. As mentioned under John de Botetourt, 1st Lord there are many web sites which suggest that that lord was a son of Edward Longshanks. TCP Botetourt simply reports that the parentage of that lord is unknown. If his parentage was indeed different AND there was another John who was also 'of Botetourte' at that time, as below, then they may have been mixed up.
partner: dau of the Earl of Kildare
21. John Walter Fitzroy de Botetourte d 25.11.1324
A. John Fitzroy of Ireland
i. Alice Fitzroy
m Roger de Berington

Sources:
1 GenEU Anjou3; BP1934 Kings of England.
2 RoyalList; BE1883 Beaufort of Dorset, Beaufort of Somerset, TCP Somerset.
3 "Genealogical and Historical Diagrams, illustrative of The History of Scotland, England, France, and Germany from the Ninth Century to the Present Time" by William Graham published by Oliver and Boyd, Edinburgh 1862.
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