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Normans 2: Kings of England, Earls of Gloucester, Gernet of Halton

William I 'the Conqueror', Duke of Normandy, King of England b 1027, d 07.09.1087 §A m 1053 Mathilda of Flanders b 1032, d 02.11.1083, dau of Baldwin V, Count of Flanders

No27-1.

Robert III 'Curthose', Duke of Normandy b 1054, d 10.02.1134 m Sybille de Conversano dau of Geoffrey of Conversano

A.

William Clito, Count of Flanders b 1101, d Aelst 1128 br>m1 1123, div 1124 Sybille d'Anjou b 1112, d 1165

m2 1127 Adelicia de Montferrat d 1127, dau of Rainer, Marquis of Montferrat

No27-2.

William II 'Rufus', King of England b 1056, d unm 02.08.1100

No27

Henry I 'Beauclerc', King of England b 1068, d 01.12.1135 m1 11.11.1100 Matilda of Scotland b 1079, d 01.05.1118, dau of Malcolm III 'Canmore, King of Scots

No26-1

son d young

No26-2

William, Duke of Normandy b 1102/3, dvp 25.11.1120 m 1119 Mahaut d 1154, dau of Fulk V 'the Younger', Count of Anjou, King of Jerusalem

No26

Matilda or Maud, 'The Empress', 'Queen of England' b 07.02.1102 d 10.09.1167 m1 1114 Henry V, King of Germany and Italy, Emperor b 08.01.1086, dsp 23.05.1125

m2 03.04.1127 Geoffrey Plantagenet, Earl of Anjou b 23.08.1113, d 07.09.1151

EGHJSWY

Matilda had what we would today view as the strongest claim to succeed her father as Monarch of England but her cousin Stephen usurped the throne. However, Matilda's eldest son by Geoffrey Plantagenet succeeded Stephen and became King Henry II of England.

m2 29.01.1122 Adelize de Louvain b c 1105, dau of Godfrey I 'Barbatus', Duke of Brabant

The following are as shown in "The Royal Bastards ..." referred to under Main Sources below, with some supplementation from 'GenEU', except for Emma X., wife of Guy de Labal who was given only by 'GenEU'.

p1. a woman of Caen

No28 =29 =30 =31 =32

Robert of Caen, 1st Earl of Gloucester b c 1090 Caen Normandy d 31.10.1147 St Werburgs Gloucester m 1119?/15 Mabel of Gloucester b c 1094 Gloucester d 1157 Bristol, dau of Robert FitzHamon de Meulent of Gloucester and Sibyl de Montgomery

Fi26 =27 =29

William FitzRobert 2nd Earl of Gloucester b 23 Nov 1116 d 23.11.1183 m 1150 Hawise de Beaumont d 24.04.1197, dau of Robert, 2nd Earl of Leicester

Fi25-1

Robert dvp unm 1166

Fi25 =26 =28

Amicia FitzRobert b 1160, d 01.01.1225 m 1180 div before 1200 Richard de Clare, 4th Earl of Hertford b 1162, d 30.12.1218

Cl24= =25 =27 Gilbert de Clare, 4th/5th Earl of Hertford, 1st Earl of Gloucester b c1180, d 25.10.1230 §C Cl24-2 Maud de Clare b 1175/84, d 1213 m1 Roger de Lacy m2 c1197 William de Braose of Totnes d 1210 Cl24-3 Joan de Clare m Rhys Grig, Lord of Cammot Mawr d 1234

Fi25-3

Maud/Mabel of Gloucester d 1188 m 1170 Amaury de Montfort, Count of Evreux b c1151, d 1182

Fi25-4

Isabella, Countess of Gloucester b c1170, dsp 1217 m1 29.08.1189, div 1189 John Plantagenet, 'Lackland', King John of England b 24.12.1166, d 18.10.1216

m2 1214 Geoffrey Mandeville, 2nd/5th Earl of Essex, Earl of Gloucester dsp 1216

m3. 1217 Hubert de Bourgh, later Earl of Kent d 1243

Fi26-2

Mabel FitzRobert b c 1118 m Aubrey de Vere

Fi27 =28 =29 =30 =31

Maud FitzRobert b c 1094 d 29.07.1189 m 1141 Ranulph 'de Gernons' de Meschines, 2nd Earl of Chester d 16.12.1153

GHJRSY

Me26 =27 =28 =29 =30

Hugh 'de Keveliok' de Meschines, 3rd Earl of Chester b 1147, d 1181 m 1169 Bertrade de Montfort b c1152, d 1227 or 12.07.1189, dau of Simon de Montfort 'le chauve', Count of Evreux

Me25-1

Ranulph de Meschines b 1172 in Oswestry, Powis, Wales and died on Oct. 28, 1232 in Wallingford, Berks m1 1188, div 1199 Constance, Duchess of Brittany b 1161, d 05.09.1201, dau of Conon IV, Duke of Brittany, Earl of Richmond m2 before 07.10.1200 Clementia / Clemence d 1252, dau of William de Fougeres

Me25-2

Maud (Tanglust?) de Meschines b c 1163 in Chester d Nov. 2, 1223. m 26.08.1190 David 'Etherington', Earl of Huntingdon b c1144, 17.06.1219

Me26

Mabel de Meschines b c 1173 in Chester

Me25 =26 =27 =28 =29

Agnes de Meschines of Chester b c 1174 in Tutbury, Stafford d Nov. 2, 1247. m 1192 William de Ferrers, 4th Earl of Derby b c 1162 Ferrers Derby d 22.09.1246-7

-1 William de Ferrers b c 1207 in Derby, Derbyshire, England and died on Mar. 24, 1254 in Evington, Leicestershire, England. m1 by 14.05.1219 Sybil Marshal b 1203/9 Pembroke d 17.01.1240 + 9 ch dau of William Mareschal, 1st Earl of Pembroke and Isabel de Clare heiress of Pembroke -2 Hugh de Ferrers of Bugbrooke b c 1204 Derby d Aug. 10, 1257 m x de Mohaut sister of Roger de Mohaut, steward of Chester -3 Berta de Ferrers b c 1218 in Thetford, Norfolk -4 Thomas de Ferrers of Chartley b c 1202 in Derby dsp -5 Robert de Ferrers b c 1206 in Derby -6 Sybil de Ferrers b Jul. 25, 1216 in Derby m John de Vipont Vespont of Appleby, Sheriff of Westmoreland d 25.07.1241

-1-1 Agnes de Ferrers b c 1222 Tutbury Burton-on-Trent Stafford d 11 May 1290 Greyfriars Scarborough York m William de Vesci of Alnwick b c 1225 d 22.10.1253 -1-2 Isabel de Ferrers b c 1225 m1 Gilbert Basset of Wycombe d 31.07.1241 m2 Reginald de Mohun, 5th of Dunster b c 1225 d 20.01.1257/8 -1-3 Maud de Ferrers d 12.03.1298/9 m1 Simon de Kyme of Kyme dsp by 30.07.1248 m2 William Fort de Vivonne / Vyvon of Chewton d by 22.05.1259 -1-4 Sibyl de Ferrers b 25 Jul 1216 Derby d c 1247 m John de Vipont (Vieuxpont) Sheriff of Westmoreland b c 1194 -1-5 Joane de Ferrers d 10.1267 m1 John de Mohun, younger of Dunster d 1254 m2 Robert Aguillon of Watton and Perching d 15.02.1285/6 -1-6 Agatha de Ferrers d 22.05.1306 m Hugh de Mortimer of Chelmarsh d 06.1275 -1-7 Eleanor de Ferrers dsp by 26.10.1274 m1 William de Vaux Vallibus of Tharston and Wisset dsp before 05.12.1252 a href="quincy.html#link1">m2 Roger de Quincy, Earl of Winchester d 25.04.1264 m3. before 09.1267 Roger de Leybourne of Eltham d c10.1271 -1-8 -1-9

-1-1-1 John de Vesci of Alnwick b 18.07.1244, dsp c 10.02.1288-9 Montpellier Herault FR m1 after 04.08.1265 Agnes dsp, dau of Manfred III, Marquess of Saluzzo m2 1279 Isabelle de Brienne Beaumont d before 01.11.1334, dau of Louis de Brienne of Acre, Viscount de Beaumont -1-1-2 William de Vesci, Lord of Alnwick b 19.09.1249, d 19.07.1297 m after 25.07.1266 Isabel de Periton a 1313, dau of Adam de Periton -1-2-1 William de Mohun of Mildenhall, Ottery, etc b c 1243 d 1280 m Beatrix FitzPiers dau of Reginald FitzPiers -1-3-1 Joan de Vivona b 1251 Hereford d 1 Jun 1314 m Herbert FitzPeter Herbert b c 1270 son of Peter FitzGerald and Alice Broadspear -1-3-2 Sibyl de Vivona b 1253 -1-3-3 Mabel de Vivona b 1255 -1-3-4 Cicely de Vyvon b 1257, d 10.01.1320/1 m John de Beauchamp of Hatch d 24.10.1283 -1-5-1 Robert Aguillon b c 1252 Watton at Stone -1-5-3 Isabel Aguillon b 25.03.1257/8, d before 28.05.1323 m by1282 Hugh Bardolf or Bardolph, 1st Lord b c 29.09.1259, d 09.1304

-1-1-2-1 John de Vesci b 14.09.1269, dvpsp 27.04.1294 m before 27.08.1280 Clementina d 03.10.1343, "kinswoman of the Queen" (?Eleanor de Castille) -1-1-2-2 William de Vesci, Lord of Kildare dsp Bannockburn 24.06.1314 -1-1-2-3 Juliana de Vesci m Sir Richard de Vernon of Haddon and Harlaston -1-2-1-1 Alianore de Mohun b 01.08.1280 m m John de Carru or Carew of Moulsford b about 1275 d 26.06.1324 son of Richard Carew -1-3-1-1 Adam FitzHerbert b c 1305 m Christian Ddu dau of Gwarin, Black Lord of Llandilo Ddu -1-3-4-1 John de Beauchamp, 1st Lord of Hacche / Hoche b 25.07.1274, d after 20.10.1336 m by 1301 Joan Chenduit 1279 - 09.02.1327 -1-3-4-2 Beatrice de Beauchamp dsp before 10.1347 m1 Peter Corbet, 2nd Lord dsp before 29.01.1321/2 m2 John de Leyburn of Berwick, Lord b c12.1294, dsp 06.10.1348 -1-3-4-3 Alianore de Beauchamp m Fulke FitzWarine, 2nd Lord d before 06.06.1336

-1-1-2-3-1 Sir Richard de Vernon, Lord a 1311, dvp before 03.02.1322/3 m Matilda Camville dau of Sir William Camville of Aston -1-2-1-1-1 Nicholas de Carew, Baron Carew, b before 1313 d 20 Jun 1324 m Eleanor Talbot dau of Richard Talbot and Joan Mortimer -1-3-1-1-1 Jenkin Herbert (read disclaimer of this descent in this link) b c 1325 d c 1377 m Gwenlliam ferch Hywel Bleddyn -1-3-4-1-1 John de Beauchamp, 2nd Lord of Hacche b after 04.10.1304, d 19.05.1343 m. Margaret St. John b c 1308, d 19.11.1361 daughter of John de St. John of Basing, 1st Lord -1-3-4-1-2 Joan de Beauchamp m 1314 Sir John de Cobham, 2nd Lord d 24.02.1354-5, Admiral

-1-1-2-3-1-1 Sir William de Vernon of Haddon and Harlaston b 1312-3 m Margaret dau of Robert, Baron of Stopford -1-1-2-3-1-2 Isabella de Vernon m 1337 Sir Richard Stafford -1-2-1-1-1-1 Sir Leonard Carew of Carew and Mulsford b c 1343, d 1371 m Alice FitzAlan dau of Sir Edmond FitzAlan of Arundel -1-3-1-1-1-1 William Herbert b c 1355 m Gwenlliam Ichon?/verch Aaron dau of Sir Aaron ap Bleddyn/?Howel Ichon -1-3-1-1-1-2 Thomas ab Gwyllym Herbert b c 1375 d 4 Jul 1438 (seems to be son not bro of William) m Mawd Morley b c 1375 dau of John Morley -1-3-4-1-1-1 John de Beauchamp, 3rd Lord of Hacche b 20.01.1329/30, dsp 08.10.1361 m. before 1354/5 Alice Beauchamp d 26.10.1383, dau of Thomas de Beauchamp, 3rd Earl of Warwick -1-3-4-1-1-2 Cecily de Beauchamp b c1321, d 07.06.1394 m1 Sir Roger Seymour m2 Richard Turberville of Bere Regis -1-3-4-1-1-3 Margaret de Beauchamp m Thomas Challons -1-3-4-1-1-4 Eleanor de Beauchamp m1 Sir John de Meriet or Mariet of Meriet m2 Sir John le Blount of Sodington b c 1298 d 1358

-1-1-2-3-1-1-1 Sir Richard de Vernon of Haddon and Harlaston b 1370, d 1401 m Johanna Stackpole dau/coheir of Richard Stackpole Joan Griffith, heiress of Stacpole, is shown by Griffith records as married to Richard Vernon.) -1-2-1-1-1-1-1 Thomas/John Carew of Carew and Mulsford, Baron Hydon b 1361 Mohun Ottery d 1431 m Elizabeth Bonville dau of Sir William Bonville of Shute -1-3-1-1-1-2-1 William Herbert b c 1355??/1400 Colebrooke Monmouth m Gwladys Gam

-1-1-2-3-1-1-1-1 Sir Richard Vernon of Haddon b 1394/5, d 1451, Speaker m Benedicta Ludlowe dau of Sir John Ludlowe -1-1-2-3-1-1-1-2 y Vernon -1-1-2-3-1-1-1-3 Margaret de Vernon d 1486 probably of this generation m1 Richard Longueville of Wootton dvp c1444 m2 c 1445 Sir Richard Roos or Ros of Whitefriers poet -1-1-2-3-1-1-1-4 Agnes de Vernon possibly of this generation m John Cokayne of Ashborne -1-2-1-1-1-1-1-1 Sir Nicholas Carew of Carew b 1409 in Molesford Devon d about 1446 m Joan Courtenay dau of Sir Hugh Courtenay of Haccombe -1-3-1-1-1-2-1-1 William Herbert b 1423 Colebrooke Monmouth 2 Richard Herberzt b c 1425 Colebrooke d 1469

-1-1-2-3-1-1-1-1-1 Sir William Vernon of Haddon b 1416, d 1467 m Margaret Swynfen dau of Sir William Swynfen -1-2-1-1-1-1-1-1-1 Sir Thomas Carew of Mohun's Ottery m Joan Carminow b by 1428 dau of Thomas Carminow

Ca17-2 Sir Nicholas Carew of Haccombe b c 1400 d 13 Sep 1449 m Elizabeth Croker dau of Sir John Croker of Lydeard

Me25-5

Hawise de Meschines b 1160 in Chester d after Jun. 6, 1241. m1 Robert de Quincy dvp m2 Sir Warren Bostock of Bostock

Me25-6

Amicia de Meschines b c 1167 in Kevelioc, Merionethshire, Wales.

Fi26-4+

other issue - Philip PitzRobert, Robert PitzRobert b 1128 d aft 1159, Richard FitzRobert b c 1114 d 1175, Hamon PitzRobert b c 1116 d 1159 Toulouse, Richard PitzRobert d 1142, Archbishop of Rouen, Roger PitzRobert b c 1112 d 1179, Bishop of Worcester

p2. Sybil Corbet dau of Robert FitzCorbet of Alcester

Sybil was definitely mother of Sybil and Rainald, possibly also of William and Rohese. Some sources suggest that there was another daughter by this relationship, Gundred, but it appears that she was thought as such because she was a sister of Reginald de Dunstanville but it appears that that was someone else who was not related to this family.

No26-5

Sybil d 1122

m c1107, sp Alexander I, King of Scotland b 1078, d 25.04.1124

No26-6

Rainald Reginald de Dunstanville, Sheriff of Devon, Earl of Cornwall d 01.07.1175

m 1140 Beatrice dau of William FitzRichard of Cornwall

i.

Nicholas de Dunstanville dvp 1175 mentioned in TCP vol XI, appendix D

ii.

Sarah of Cornwall

m the Viscount of Limoges

iii.

Ursula of Cornwall

m Walter de Dunstanvill see here

iv.

Maud of Cornwall

m c1165 Robert de Beaumont, Earl of Mellent Count of Meulan d 16.08.1204

v.

Denisa / Dinoysia / Hawise of Cornwall

m Richard de Redvers, 3rd Earl of Devon d 1162

vi.

Emma of Cornwall

p. Beatrice de Vaus or Vannes or Valle of Torre and Karswell

vii.

Henry FitzCount, Sheriff of Cornwall, 'Earl of Cornwall' d 1222

viii.

William FitzCount

No26-7

William b before 1105, a 1187

m Alice

No26-8

Rohese a 1175

m before 1135 Henry de la Pomerai d by 1166

p3. Edith of Greystoke dau of Forn Sigurson, lord of Greystoke

No26-9

Robert FitzEdith d 1172

m after 1142 Maud d'Avranches, Dame du Sap Maud de Abrincis d 1173

i.

Maud, Dame du Sap dsp 1224

m Renauld de Courtenay, Sn de Courtenay, later of Sutton a 1161

p4. Ansfride

Definite mother of Richard and Juliane, possibly also of Fulk.

No26-10

Richard b before 1100, d 1120

No26-11

Juliane b c1090

m 1103 Eustace de Pacy, lord of Breteuil d 1136

No26-12

Fulk

p5. Edith not Edith of Greystoke

m

Maud Fitzedith d 25.11.1120

m 1103 Rotrou II, Count of Perche d 1144

p6. Elizabeth de Beaumont Isabel de Meulan d c1147, dau of 1st Earl of Leicester

No26-13

Isabel b c1120, d unm

No26-14

Constance identified in a reputable-looking web site as Henry's daughter by Elizabeth, dau of Robert de Bellamonte the Earl

HJY

m before 1135 Rosceline de Beaumont, Vicomte de Maine d c1176

HJY

p7. Nest of Deheubarth d before 1136, dau of Rhys, Prince of South Wales

No26-15

Henry FitzHenry b c1104, d 1157

partners unknown

No26-16

Maud

GHSY

m c1113 Conan III 'le Gros', Duke of Brittany b c1071, d 1148

GHSY

No26-17

Aline

m 1126 Matthew de Montmorenci, constable of France d 1060

No26-20

William, later de Tracy d c1140

m ?? de Tracy dau of Sir Turgis de Traci

No26-21

Richilde

m William Gouet III, lord of Montmirail

No26-22

daughter m Fergus, Lord of Galloway d 1161

GHJRSY

No26 =30

Sybil of Falaise probable m Baldwin Aubigny de Boullers Lord Mongomery of Powis The following connection is given in various web sites. son of Stephen Baron de Boelare

Bo29

Maud Boulers b 1097 Northampton d 1138 m Richard FitzUrse b 1095 Bulwick Northampton d there aft 1141 son of Ursa

Fi28

Maud/Mabel FitzUrse b 1137 Bulwick Northampton d1205 m Benet/Benedict Gernet of Halton forrester of Lancashire

Ge27

Roger Gernet of Halton b 1175 Lancaster d 1252 m Quenilde(r) FitzRoger b 1181 dau of Sir Richard FitzRoger Lord of Plumpton and Margaret Banastre b aft 1125 Newton Manchester d 1211 Woodplumpton

Ge26

Benedict Gernet of Halton b c 1240 Lancashire d there c 1318 m Joan

Ge25

Joan Gernet of Halton b c 1270 d 28 Nov 1324 m William de Dacre b 1265, d c 1319

+1 Ranulph de Dacre d c1286 m Joane de Luci

+2 William de Dacre of Dacre, Sheriff of Cumberland then Yorkshire, Governor of Carlisle d c1258 1st Baron Dacre and Multon

Da24

Ranulph de Dacre, 2nd Lord, Sheriff of Cumberland, Governor of Carlisle d 1339 m 1317 Margaret de Multon dau of Thomas de Multon, Lord of Gillesland

Ge23

Hugh de Dacre, 4th Lord of Dacre and Multon b 1335, d 12.1383 m Elizabeth dau of "Alexander, Lord Maxwell" probably sb. Sir John Maxwell of Carlaverock

Ge22

William de Dacre, 5th Lord of Dacre and Multon b 1357, d c1403 Although TCP Dacre acknowledges that William's wife is said to have been Joan Douglas "illegit. da. of James, Earl of Douglas" it then reports that his wife was called Mary. As was kindly brought to our attention by a site visitor JH, 24.03.08, the dates make it likely that Mary, if a Douglas, was of the same generation as James 2nd Earl of Douglas rather than his offspring. We therefore provisionally show his wife as ... m Mary Douglas possibly natural half-sister of James Douglas, 2nd Earl of Douglas, Earl of Mar

No26-23

Emma

m Guy IV de Labal

No2624+

other issue - Maud d unm, Abbess of Montvilliers, Gilbert b c1130, daughter probable, unsuccessful betrothal to Hugh FitzGervais c1110, daughter probable, unsuccessful betrothal to Earl of Surrey c1109

No27-4.

Constance b 1061, dsp 13.08.1090/1126

m Alain IV 'Fergent', Duke of Brittany d 1119

No27-5.

Adela b 1062, d 1137/8

GHJSWY

m 1080/1 Etienne Stephen Henry, Count de Blois, Chartres, etc b 1046, d Ramleh 1102

GHJSWY

No27-6.

Adeliza d young

No27-7

Cicelie d 13.07.1126, Abbess

No27-8

Richard b c1055, d c1081

No27-9

Agatha d unm

?No27=29

??by Partner unknown or Maud dau of Inelric William de Peverel of Nottingham Castle d 1113/4

Sources:
1 GenEU Normandy + many sources on the legitimate royals.
2 "The Royal Bastards of Medieval England" by Chris Given-Wilson & Alice Carteris ISBN 0-7102-0025-0.
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