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Ca38. Charlemagne, King of the Franks, Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire b 04.742/7, d 28.01.814 §A
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m1 766 Himiltrude
Ca37-1. Pippin 'the hunchback' b 767, d 811/3
m2 770, div 771 Gerperga 'Desideria' d 776, dau of Didier/Desidarius, King of the Lombards
m3 771 Hildegarde of Vinzgau b 757, d 30.04.783/4, dau of Gerold I von Vinzgau by Imma of Allemannia
Ca37-2. Charles, King of the East Franks, King of Neustria, Duke of Ingelheim b 772, d 04.12.811
m Juliana of Ingelheim dau of Roland of Ingelheim
The following descent, which is reported by 'Mathematical', is unlikely to be secure but is shown for its interest value. If it is true then Rowland of Neustria was most probably illegitimate as otherwise he would probably have played a more widely recorded role in the development of Europe.
A. Rowland of Neustria b c805
i. Godfrey of Neustria b c845
a. Baldwin I of Blois b c885
1 Baldwin II of Blois b c925
A John de Conteville of Tonsburgh, Earl of Comyn b c969/979
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Ca37 Pepin I, originally named Carloman, King of Italy and the Lombards b 773, d 08.07.810 from an illness contracted at a siege of Venice
m1 795 Bertha of Toulouse dau of William, Count of Autun and Toulouse
Ca36-1 Adelheid or Adelaide b c798, d c810
m Gui I, Duke of Spoleto d 860/6, son of Lambert of Nantes
Ca36-2.+ other issue d by 813 - Athalia/Atala, Gudrade/Gundrada, Berthaide/Bertha, Theodrade/Tetrada
One of these daughters married as follows:
m Lambert of Nantes d 01.09.836
m2 Chrothais/Theitrade/Gondres b 780, dau of Bernhard
Various sources show that Pepin's son's mother was Bertha of Toulouse but Wikipedia reports that he was illegitimate.
partner unknown
Ca36=Ve37/6 Bernard I, King of Italy and the Lombards b 797, Vermandois, Normandy d 17.08.818, although illegitimate, Charlemagne allowed him to inherit Italy. He plotted against his uncle, Emperor Louis the Pious, when the latter's Ordinatio Imperii made Bernard a vassal of his cousin Lothair. When his plot was discovered, Louis had him blinded, a procedure which killed him, 
m 813 Cunegonde of Laon b by 796, a 06.835
Ve36=35 Pepin II Quentin, Count of Vermandois, Senlis et Peronne b 817, a 840
Ve35=34 Herbert I, Count of Vermandois, Senlis et Peronne b c849, d by 11.907
m Bertha de Morvois or Leidgardis
Ve34-1 Beatrix de Vermandois b 880, a 931
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m Robert I, King of France b 866, d 15.06.923
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Ve34 Berengar, Count de Bayeaux et Senlis s b c 882 The descent from Berengar is not fully secure and is to be reviewed.
m daughter of Gurvand, Duke of Brittany
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Ve34=33 Herbert II, Count of Vermandois et Troyes b 884, d 23.02.943
m by 907 Adela or Hildebrande of France b 895, d 931, dau of Robert I, King of France
Ve33-1 Eudes, Count of Amiens et Vienne b 9410, d 946
Ve33-2 Adele de Vermandois b c912, d 10.10.960
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m 934 Arnulf I, Count of Flanders b c889, d 27.03.964
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Ve33-3 Herbert, Count de Meaux b c911
Ve33-4 Luitgarde de Vermandois b c914, d 09.02.978
GHJSWY
m c944 Theobald 'le Tricheur', Count of Blois et Chartres & Tours b 910, d 975
GHJSWY
Ve33 Adalbert, Count de Vermandois b c916
m by 954 Gerberge of Lorraine b c935, d 978, dau of Giselbert, Duke of Lorraine
Ve32 Herbert III, Count of Vermandois et Troyes b 953, d 1015
m c 998 Ermengarde de Bar-sur-Seine b 946, a 1035
Ve31 Otto, Count de Vermandois b 979, d 25.05.1045
m Pavia
Ve30 Herbert IV, Count de Vermandois b 1028, d 1080
m Adele de Valois b 1032, d 1080, dau of Raoul III, Count de Valois
Ve29 Adelaide de Vermandois b 1050, d 1124
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m Hugh I 'le Grand' de Crepe, Count de Vermandois et de Valois b 1057, d 18.10.1101
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Ve30-2 Eudes I, Count de Ham a 1032
Ve30-3 Peter de Vermandois
Peter is reported to have been father of Herbert, Chamberlain to William II of England.
Ve32-2 Gui a 988
m Adelaide de Soissons d 1047
a Aelis de Soissons
m Nocher II de Bar-sur-Aube a 1019
Ve33=32 Robert de Vermandois, Count of Meaux et Troyes b c918, d 29.08.968
m Adelais de Vergy b 914, d 967, dau of Giselbert of Burgundy
Ve31-1 Herbert, Count of Vermandois et Troyesconfused with Herbert shown above as his cousin ?
a Adele de Vermandois
m Gauthier de Valois son of Gauthier de Valois by Adele de Dreux
Ve31 Adelaide de Vermandois b 934, d 982
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m1 07.12.954 Lambert de Chalons
m2 979 Geoffrey I, Count of Anjou b 938, d 987
EGHJRSWY
Ve33-7 Hugh de Vermandois, Abbot of Reims b 920, d 962
Ve34-4 Sprota of Bretagne
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p. William 'Longsword', Count of Rouen, Duke of Normandy b c900, d 17.12.942
EGHJRSWY
m Asperling de Vaudreuil of Ivry
A Ralph, Count of Ivry b 944
Ralph is confirmed by TCP Hereford as having been a half-brother, through his mother, of Richard I, Duke of Normandy. TCP Lovel of Titchmarsh identifies his wife as ...
m Aubree
i Hugh d'Ivry, Bishop of Bayeux b 980 probably father of ...
a Aubree de Bayeux b 1015
m1 c1035 Robert of Ivry a 1060
m2 Albert de Cravent
ii John d'Ivry, Bishop of Avranches, Archbishop of Rouen identified on various web sites
iii Emma of Ivry
HJRY
m Osbern Steward of Normandy
HJRY
Ve34-5 daughter b c882, d 12.12.949
m by 918 Eudo von Wetterau d 02.12.949
Ve35-2 Bernard II b c845, d by 892
Ve35-3 Pepin I, Count of Senlis
1 Herbert
2 Bernard, Count of Senlis
A Adele, Countess of Senlis
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m c 989 Gauthier II de Vexin
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Ve35-4. Adelheid
m Lambert, King of Italy d 898
Ve35=34 Papia Poppa of Senlis
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Poppa, wife of Rollo 'the Ganger', is sometimes wrongly identifed as daughter of Berengar, Count of Bayeux and Senlis, who is shown above as a nephew of this Poppa.
m 886 Rollo 'the Ganger' Ragnvaldson of Normandy b 870, d 932
EGHJRSWY
Ve35-5 Beatrix de Vermandois
m  Robert I, King of France b 866
Ca37. Louis I 'the Fair' or 'the Pious', King of Aquitaine, Holy Roman Emperor b 778, d 20.06.840
m1 798 Ermengarde of Hesbaye b c778, d 03.10.818, dau of Ingeramme, Count of Hesbaye, and Hedwig of Bavaria
Ca36-1 Alpais b c794,a 852 not mentioned by Wikipedia
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m Beggo, Count of Paris d 816
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Ca36=33 Lothar I, Holy Roman Emperor d 29.09.855
m1 Thionville b 800, d 20.03.851
Ca32-1 Louis II, King of Italy, Emperor of the East Franks b c822, d 12.08.875
m 855 Engelburge of Alsace di Spoleto, b by855, d 890
a. Gisele b c853, d by 04.868
b. Irmengarde or Ermengarde b c859, d c896
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m 876 Boson, King of Lower Burgundy Provence and Aquitaine d 19.02/12.887
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Ca32-2 Ermengarde or Irmgard b 830, a 849
EGHJRSWY
m 846 Giselbert II von Maasgau, Count of Hainault b 830, d 892
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Ca32 Lothar II, King of Lotharingia / Lorraine b c830, d 08.08.869
m1 855, div 857/862 Teutberge de Arles d before 25.11.875, dau of Boso, Count of Turin/Valois
Ca31-1 Hugo, Duke of Els b c855/860, d 895
m2 15.10.862 Walrada b c836, a 868
Ca31-3. Bertha b 866, d 08.03.924/5
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m1 879 Theodebert, Count of Arles / Provence b c860, d 895
EGHJRSWY
m2 898 Adalbert II, Marquis of Tuscany b 855, d 19.09.915
EGHJSWY
Ca31 Gisela b c860/865, a 01.908
GS
m Godefrey the Dane
GS
Ca31-4 Irmgard d c900
Ca32-4 Charles, King of Burgundy/Provence b c845, d 24.01.863
Ca32-5 Hiltrud b c826, d 865-6
m Berengar di Spoleto
Ca32-6 Rotrud b c840
m Lambert II de Nantes
Ca32-7+ other issue - Berta b c830, a 05.852, Gisela b c830, a 05.856
m2 Doda a 06.855
Ca32-10. Karloman b 853
m3 name unknown
Ca36-3 Pepin I, King of Aquitaine b 797/803, d 13.12.833/838
m 822 Ingeltrude a 03.836, dau of Theodebert, Count of Madrie
i. Pepin II, King of Aquitaine b c824, d 864
ii. Charles, Arbishop of Mainz b c827, d 04.06.863
iii. Berthe
m 839 Gerard, Duke of Aquitaine d 841
iv. daughter
m Rather, Count of Limoges
Ca36-4 Rotrude b 800, d c841
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m1 Gerard I, Count of Auvergne b c795, d 25.06.841
EGHJRSWY
m2 Rather de Limoges
Ca36-5 Hildegarde/Matilda, Abbess of Laon b c802, d 841
m Gerard I, Count of Auvergne b c795/800, d 25.06.841
Ca36-6. Louis II 'the German', King of Bavaria, Holy Roman Emperor b c 804, d 28.08.876
m 827 Hemma von Altdorf a 818, d 31.01.876, dau of Welf
i. Karloman, King of Bavaria and Italy b by 828, d 09.880
m1 Liutswinde
a. Arnulf, Duke of Carinthia, Emperor b c850, d 08.12..899
m Oda of Bavaria
1 Zwentibold d 900
m c897 Oda either Oda of Paris, dau of Eudes, Count of Paris, or Oda of Saxony
2 Louis IV 'das kind', King of the East Franks b 893, d 24.09.911
3 Hedwige
m2 ? von Nordgau
ii. Louis III, King of Saxony, Thuringia and Franconia b c830, d 20.01.881/2
m Liutgard of Saxony
a.+ other issue - Louis b c877, d 879, Hildegard b 878/881, d 895/931
partner unknown
c. Hugo b c850, d 880
iii. Charles III 'the Fat', King of the Franks, Holy Roman Emperor b 839, d 13.01.888
m 862 Richardis d c900, dau of Count Erchanger
a. Karloman d 876
partner unknown
b. Bernard b 881/2, d 891
iv. Gisela
m Erchanger I of Swabia
v+. other issue - Hildegard b 828, d 23.12.856, Irmgard d 16.07.866, Berta d 26.03.877
m2 819 Judith von Altdorf b 800, d 19.04.843, dau of Welf
Ca36-7 Gisele b c819, d 01.07.876
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m 836 Everhard, Margrave of Friuli b c820, d 16.12.866
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Ca36. Charles II 'the Bald', King of the West Franks, Holy Roman Emperor b 823, d 06.10.877
m1 14.12.842 Ermentrude b c825, d 06.10.869, dau of Eudes I, Count of Orleans
Ca35 Judith b 844, a 870
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m1 01.10.856 Aethelwulf, King of Wessex b c806, d 17.06.857
m2 858, div 1860 Aethelbald, King of Wessex d 860
m3 862 Baldwin I, Count of Flanders b c837/840, d 879
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Ca35=Co34 Louis II 'the Stammerer', King of the Franks b 01.11.846, d 10.04.879
m1 862, repudiated 866 Ansgarde d 87, dau of Hardouin, Count of Burgundy
Co33-1. Louis III, King of East Franks, Emperor b 864, d 05.08.882
Co33-2. Karloman, King of West Franks, Emperor b 866, d 12.884
Co33-3+ other issue - Hildegarde, Gisele d by 884
m2 sp Luitgarde of Saxony
m3 c868 Adelaide b 850-60, d c18.10.900, dau of Beggen/Adalhard, Count of Paris
Co33 Charles III 'the Simple', Holy Roman Emperor b 17.09.897, d 07.10.929
m1 907 Frederuna d 916/7
Co32-1 Frederune
m c930 Wichman von Stubennkorn dsp
Co32-2 Gisela
m 912, sp Rollo 'the Ganger' Ragnvaldsson, Duke of Normandy b 846, d 932
Co32-3+ other issue - Irmtrude, Adelaide
m2 918/9 Eadgifu b c900, d 951/5, dau of Edward, King of England
Co32 Louis IV 'd'outre mer', Emperor b 10.09.921, d 10.09.954
m 939/40 Gerpirga Gerberge of Saxony b 925, d 05.05.984, dau of Henry of Saxony, King of Germany
Co31-1 Lothar IV, King of West Franks b 941, d 02.03.986
m 966 Emma of Italy b c948, d 988, dau of Lothar II, King of Italy
i Louis V 'le Faineant', Emperor b 967, d 987
m1 c977 Blanche d'Auvergne d c980
m2 981/2, div 984 Adelaide d'Anjou b c942, d 1026
ii Eudes a 986, a canon in Reims
Co31 Charles of Laon, Duke of Lower Lorraine b 953, d 22.06.991/4
m1 c973 Agnes de Vermandois b c955, d 983, dau of Heribert de Vermandois
Co30-1 Adelaide or Ermentrude b 970/975, d 1019
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m c990 Albert I, Count of Namur d by 1011
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Co30-2 Gerberge de Lorraine b 977, a 01.1018
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m c 990 Lambert I, Count de Louvain b c950, d 12.09.1015
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m2 by 979 Bonne Adelaide possibly dau of Ricuinus, Duke on the Moselle
Co30? Eudes, Duke of Lower Lorraine b after 985, d 1012
Co30?+ other issue - Charles b 989, Louis b after 989, d c995
Co29  possibly sons of the above Eudes or Charles were
Robert, lord of Courcy a 1006 and
Richard de Curcy of Newenham, Oxfordshire
Co31-3 Mathilde b c943, d 982/991
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m c964 Conrad, King of Burgundy b c925, d 10.10.993 Rudolf III, King of Burgundy d 06.09.1032
Matilda of Burgundy
Bertha of Burgundy d after 1016 m1 Eudes I, Count de Blois, Chartres, etc b 950, d 995
m2 997, div 1003-5 Robert II 'the Pious', King of France b 27.03.972, d 20.07.1031
Gerberga of Burgundy b before 971, d after 1016 m1 either Bernhard I, Count of Werl d c982 or his son Hermann of Werl m2 c998 Hermann II, Duke of Swabia
Co31-4 Karloman b 945, d c953
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Co31-5 Louis b 948, d 954
GHJSWY
Co31-6 Henri b/d 953
Co32-6 Rociro of Laon, bishop
Co32 =33 Charles de Coucy b c 925 Courcy Ardennes d there 993
>Co32 Wigelius/Carolus de Courcy b c 952 d by 1052) Baldric de Courcy b c 969 #Courcy d 1066 m Alix de Clare
>Co31 Wigelius/Carolus de Courcy b c 952 d by 1052)
Co30 Robert de Courcy b c 1006 Courcy d 1058 m Hebrea
Co29-1 Richard de Courcy b 1040 Courcy d 1098 Nuneham Courtenay Abingdon Oxford, companion of the Conqueror m Gwandelmode
Co29 Richard de Curcy of Newenham, Oxfordshire (There are doubts that these two Richards are the same person, although date and place seem to be the same.)
Co29-1-1 Robert de Courcy
Co29-1-2 Guillaume de Courcy
Co28 William I de Curcy sewer to King Henry I (again this seems to be the same person as Guillaume.)
Co27 William II de Curcy m Avice or Amice de Meschines of Rumilli dau of William de Meschines 		Co26-1 William III de Curcy d 1171
Co26 Jordan de Curcy or de Exeter Exonia
>Co32-7? Fulk de Courcy d'Aunou m Beatrix le Goz b c 990
>Co32-7? Nicholas Basqueville b c 1035 Bosqueville Manche Normandy -1 Hawise de Basqueville b c 1070 Bosque Manche Normandy m Alfred de Lincoln
-? 		-1-1 Robert de Lincoln b c 1105 Dorset d 1156 m c 1130 Beuza de Lincoln -1-1-1 Alfred de Lincoln b c 1135 Wintercombe St Martins Dorset d 1198 m Albreda -1-1-1-1 Alfred de Lincoln b c 1165 Winterbourne d 1240 St Martins Dorset m Maud -1-1-1-1-1 Margery de Lincoln b c 1201 St Martins d 25 Jul 1245 m Roger FitzPayn -1-1-1-1-1-1 Sir Robert FitzPayn b by 29 Jun 1225 Monmouthshire d 27 Apr 1281 m1 Nesta m2 Roberge
Co33-6 Ermentrude b 870/5
Ca35-3 Charles 'the child', King of Aquitaine d 847/8, d 29.09.865/6
m 862, div 1863 Witwe widow of Count Humbert
Ca35-4+ other issue - Karloman b c849, d 876, abbot, Lothar b c847, d by 12.865, abbot, Ermentrude b c854, a 877, abbess, Hildegard b c856, Gisele b c858, d 01.07.874, Rotrude b 862, d by 911, abbess
m2 22.01.870 Richildis d 910/914/920, dau of Budwin of Metz
Ca35-10. Rothaut b c870
m Hughes, Count of Bourges b c862, d 892
a. Richildis de Bourgues b 892
m Thibaut, Viscount de Tours, Count de Blois d c942
Ca35-11. Rothilde of Neustria b c871, d 22.03.928
m Roger of Maine d 31.10.900
Ca35-12.+ other issue - Drogo b 872/3, d 873/4, Pippin b 872/3, d 873/4, Hersent of Lorraine b c870, Charles b 10.10.876, d 877
Ca36-9 Adelaide b 824, a 866
m Robert, Duke of France b 820, d 866
partner unknown may be legitimate
Ca36-10 Arnulf de Sens b c790, a 816
Ca37-5. Rotrude b c775, d 810
m Rorico or Rociron de Rennes, Count of Maine d c832
Ca37=38=35 Bertha b 779/780, d 826
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m 787 Augilbert 'the Saint' b c750, d 18.02.814
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Ca37-7.+ other issue - Lothar b 778, d 780, Adelaide b 774, d 774, Gisela b by 781, c800, Hildegarde b 08.06.782, d 783
m4 783 Fastrada d 10.08.794, dau of Rodolfo III, Count of Franconia
Ca37-11. Theodrada b c785, d 09.01.844, abbess of Argenteuil
Ca37-12. Hiltrude b c787, d c800
m Richwin di Padua
A.. Ricbodo b c800, d 14.06.844
m5. 794 Luitgarde dsp 04.06.800
p1. Gersuinda or Gerswinde of Saxony
Ca37-13. Adeltrude or Adaltrude b 1774
p2. Madelgarde
Ca37-14. Ruodhaid or Rothilde b 1775, d 810/24.03.852, abbess of Faremoutiers
p3. Regine
Ca37-15. Drogo, Bishop of Metz b 17.06.801, d 08.12.855
Ca37-16. Hugues b 794/802/806, d 14.06.844, abbott, archchancellor of the Holy Roman Empire
A. Petronilla b 825
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m Tertulle, Count of Anjou a 821
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p4. Ethelind or Adelinde
Ca37-17. Theorerich/Dietrich b 807, a 819
p5. unknown not mentioned by Wikipedia
Ca37-18. Hruodhaid b c784, d c800

Sources:
1 'Royal Geneaolgies', HOLDT, GenEU Carolin1
2 Debrett's '"Kings and Queens of Europe".
3 For the children & various grandchildren of Charlemagne : Wikipedia
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