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As with many other families, there are reports of earlier generations for this family but those before the 13th century are clouded by uncertainties and myth. TSP Forbes refers to mention of O'Connor or Ochonochor a temp Malcolm Canmore who r. 1058-1093 whose 3 sons were progenitors of the Forbeses, the Urquharts and the Mackays. TSP Mackay, Lord Reay also mentions that the Mackays are believed to share a common ancestry with the Forbeses. We hope to show the connection in due course, purely 'for fun' of course. | |||||||||||||
Duncan de Forbes a 1272 | |||||||||||||
1. | John de Forbes d c1305 | ||||||||||||
m possibly a dau of John del Ard | |||||||||||||
A. | John de Forbes of that ilk b c1306 | ||||||||||||
i. | John de Forbes of that ilk, Sheriff of Aberdeen d by 08.1387 | ||||||||||||
a. | Sir John Forbes of that ilk | ||||||||||||
m Elizabeth or Margaret Kennedy dau of ?? Kennedy of Dunure | |||||||||||||
1 | Alexander Forbes, 1st Lord b c1380, d 1448 | ||||||||||||
m 6/16.10.1423 Elizabeth Douglas dau of William Douglas, 1st Earl of Angus | |||||||||||||
A | James Forbes, 2nd Lord d c1461 | ||||||||||||
m Egidia Keith a 08.1473, dau of William Keith, 1st Earl Marischal | |||||||||||||
i | William Forbes, 3rd Lord d before 05.07.1483 | ||||||||||||
m c08.07.1468 Christian Gordon dau of Alexander Seton, 1st Earl of Huntly | |||||||||||||
a | Alexander Forbes, 4th Lord dsp before 06.05.1491 | ||||||||||||
m Margaret Boyd dau of Thomas Boyd, Earl of Arran | |||||||||||||
b | Arthur Forbes, 5th Lord dsp 1493 | ||||||||||||
m Agnes Lyon dau of 3rd Lord Glamis | |||||||||||||
c | John Forbes, 6th Lord d 1547 | ||||||||||||
m1 Catherine Stewart dau of Sir John Stewart of Balveny, 1st Earl of Atholl | |||||||||||||
1 | James Forbes d young | ||||||||||||
2 | Elizabeth Forbes | ||||||||||||
m James Grant, 3rd of Freuchie d 26.08.1553 | |||||||||||||
m2 by 26.02.1509/10 Christian Lundin dau of John Lundin of that ilk | |||||||||||||
3 | John Forbes, Master of Forbes dsp 17.07.1537 | ||||||||||||
m c 27.06.1535 Elizabeth Lyon dau of John Lyon, 6th Lord of Glamis | |||||||||||||
4 | William Forbes, 7th Lord d 1593 | ||||||||||||
m 19.12.1538 Elizabeth Keith dau of Sir William Keith of Inverugie | |||||||||||||
5 | Margaret Forbes | ||||||||||||
m before 21.07.1519 Andrew Fraser of Muchalls, Stoneywood and Kinmundy d 08.1549 | |||||||||||||
6 | Elizabeth Forbes a 20.11.1554 | ||||||||||||
m1 Gilbert Keith of Troup d 12.1537 | |||||||||||||
m2 before 1541 Alexander Innes, 14th of that ilk b 1507, d 09.1553 | |||||||||||||
m3. c1554 Alexander Dunbar of Conzie and Kilbuyack d 27.02.1578/9 | |||||||||||||
7 | Marjory Forbes | ||||||||||||
m1 Alexander Forbes of Brux | |||||||||||||
m2 Alexander Burnet of Leys a 1567 | |||||||||||||
m3. by 29.07.1515 Elizabeth Berlay or Barlow d 1518, widow of Lord Elphinstone | |||||||||||||
8 | Arthur Forbes of Putachie d Tillieangus 10.1571 | ||||||||||||
m Elizabeth Innes dau of Alexander Innes, 13th of that ilk | |||||||||||||
9 | Janet Forbes a 20.11.1554 | ||||||||||||
m1 1542 John Stewart, 3rd Earl of Atholl d c1542 | |||||||||||||
m2 Alexander Hay of Delgaty dsp 1546 | |||||||||||||
m3. William Leslie, 9th of Balquhain d 1571 | |||||||||||||
partner unknown | |||||||||||||
10 | Annabella Forbes | ||||||||||||
m Matthew Lumsden of Tullicarn | |||||||||||||
d | Christian Forbes |
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m William Ruthven, 1st Lord d 1528 |
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ii | Duncan Forbes of Corsindae | ||||||||||||
m Christian Mercer dau of Robert Mercer of Balleif, Provost of St. Johnstone | |||||||||||||
iii | Patrick Forbes of Corse a 1482 | ||||||||||||
iv | Margaret or Egidia Forbes |
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m Malcolm Forbes, 4th of Tolquhoun d c1508 below |
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v | Agnes Forbes possibly a generation later | ||||||||||||
m Alexander Skene, 9th of Skene b c1481, d 1507 | |||||||||||||
B | William Forbes, Provost of St. Giles | ||||||||||||
C | Annabella Forbes |
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m 1445 Patrick, Master of Gray dvp by 01.09.1464 |
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D | Margaret Forbes | ||||||||||||
m ?? Meldrum of Fyvie | |||||||||||||
E | Elizabeth Forbes |
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m Alexander Irvine, 5th of Drum, Sheriff of Aberdeenshire d 12.1493 |
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F | Susanna Forbes | ||||||||||||
m William Urquart of Cromarty b c1395, d 1472 | |||||||||||||
partner unknown | |||||||||||||
G | Richard Forbes, Archdeacon of Ross | ||||||||||||
2 | Sir William Forbes of Kinaldie, 1st of Pitsligo d 13/23.01.1445-6 | ||||||||||||
m 24.07.1423 Agnes Fraser dau of Sir William Fraser of Cowie, 2nd of Philorth | |||||||||||||
A | Sir Alexander Forbes, 2nd of Pitsligo d 03.1477 | ||||||||||||
TSP identifies his eldest son as William who dvp. BE1883 identifies his eldest son as Alexander who succeeded. They agree on his grandsons. We follow BE1883 as that is supported by TSP Airlie on the cross-reference from the son's spouse. | |||||||||||||
m Maria Hay dau of Sir William Hay, 1st Earl of Erroll | |||||||||||||
i | Sir Alexander Forbes, 3rd of Pitsligo |
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m 1466/1486 Christian or Mariota Ogilvy dau of Sir John Ogilvy of Lintrathen |
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ii | George Forbes ancestor of Forbeses of Lethenty | ||||||||||||
iii | Sir Arthur Forbes, 1st of Rires |
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m Elizabeth Wemyss dau of Michael Wemyss |
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iv | daughter Forbes | ||||||||||||
m John Gordon of Botary | |||||||||||||
v | Isabel Forbes | ||||||||||||
m William Urquhart, Sheriff of Cromarty | |||||||||||||
vi | daughter Forbes | ||||||||||||
m Alexander Tulloch of Montcoffer | |||||||||||||
vii | daughter Forbes | ||||||||||||
m _ Mowat of Balquholly | |||||||||||||
viii | Elizabeth Forbes | ||||||||||||
m Gilbert de Johnston of Caskieben | |||||||||||||
B | Malcolm Forbes of Meikle Wardis | ||||||||||||
C | Arthur Forbes | ||||||||||||
m before 12.10.1463 Beatrix Douglas dau of James Douglas, 7th Earl of Douglas | |||||||||||||
D | daughter | ||||||||||||
m James Menzies of Lashgoun | |||||||||||||
3 | Sir John Forbes, 1st of Tolquhoun | ||||||||||||
m Marjorie Preston dau of Sir Henry Preston of Formartin | |||||||||||||
A | Sir John Forbes, 2nd of Tolquhoun | ||||||||||||
m Anne Stratan dau of ?? Straton of Lawreston | |||||||||||||
i | Alexander Forbes, 3rd of Tolquhoun d by 1487 | ||||||||||||
m Jane Hay dau of ?? Hay of Dalgetty | |||||||||||||
a | Malcolm Forbes, 4th of Tolquhoun d c1508 | ||||||||||||
m Margaret Forbes dau of James Forbes, 2nd Lord above | |||||||||||||
1 | William Forbes, 5th of Tolquhoun | ||||||||||||
m1 dau of Leith, Laird of Baines | |||||||||||||
A | John Forbes dvpsp | ||||||||||||
m Janet Cheyne dau of Sir Patrick Cheyne, 6th of Essilmont | |||||||||||||
B | Alexander Forbes, 6th of Tolquhoun d Pinkie 10.09.1547 |
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m Elison Anderson dau of Provost of Edinburgh |
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C | daughter | ||||||||||||
m Burnet, laird of Glask | |||||||||||||
D | daughter | ||||||||||||
m Andrew Dortis in Aberdeen | |||||||||||||
E | daughter | ||||||||||||
m1 John Lamb in Aberdeen | |||||||||||||
m2 Thomas Davidson | |||||||||||||
m2 1522 Isabel Hay dau of William Hay, 4th Earl of Erroll | |||||||||||||
F+ | other issue - Arthur, Isobel | ||||||||||||
2 | daughter | ||||||||||||
m Alexander Chein of Arnage | |||||||||||||
3+ | other issue - Thomas, James | ||||||||||||
ii+ | other issue - David of Essie, Henry of Logie | ||||||||||||
B+ | other issue - Duncan of Ardgeighton, David | ||||||||||||
4 | Alaster 'Cam' Forbes, 1st of Brux d c1466 | ||||||||||||
m c1409 Katherine Cameron dau of Sir Ewen Cameron of Brux | |||||||||||||
partners unknown | |||||||||||||
5 | Duncan Forbes ancestor of the Forbeses of Auchintoul | ||||||||||||
6 | Malcolm Forbes ancestor of the Forbeses of Culquharry | ||||||||||||
7 | John Forbes |
Sources:
1 TSP Forbes, BP1934 Forbes.
2 TSP Forbes of Pitsligo, BE1883 Forbes of Pitsligo.
3 BLG1850 Forbes of Toquhoun.
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