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Fiennes 1: Fiennes of Fiennes, Plaunche of Haverham

Fi28. Eustace de Fiennes a 1066

The ancestry shown for Eustace is as suggested by 'Tudor'. However, it should be noted that BP1934 Saye and Sele reports that the Sir William Fiennes who married Joan de Saye see below was "10th in descent from John Fiennes, Baron of Fiennes, kinsman and companion of William the Conqueror".

m Adela de Furnes dau of Erard de Furnes or Selnesse

Fi27

Conan de Fiennes

m Alice de Bournonville dau of Louis de Bournonville

Fi26

Eustace de Fiennes

m Anne de Dreux

Fi25

Enguerrand Ingelgram de Fiennes b c1128, d 1189

m Sibille de Tingry dau of Pharamus de Tingrie of Boulogne

The above male line and Sibille is supported by TCP Saye and Sele, reporting Dugdale's 'Baronage'.

Fi24

William, 1st Baron de Fiennes b 1160, d 1240-1

m Agnes de Dammartin dau of Aubrey or Alberic II, Count of Dammartin

Fi23

Sir Ingelgram Enguerrand de Fiennes

m1 Maud Hampden

m2 Isabel de Conde dau of Jacques, Sn de Conde

'Tudor' shows both these marriages with all the children by Maud. 'Mathematical' shows only the marriage to Isabel and so shows all the children by her. TCP Hereford shows Humphrey de Bohun's wife's mother as a daughter of Jacques, Seigneur of Conde, etc..

Fi22 =29

William, 2nd Baron de Fiennes b c1245, d 1302, 2nd son

m Blanche de Brienne probably dau of Jean de Brienne of Acre

Fi21 =28

Margaret de Fiennes d 07.02.1333/4

Y

m c1285 Sir Edmund de Mortimer, 1st Lord of Wigmore d Buelt 17.07.1303/4;

Y

Fi21-2

Joan de Fiennes b c1273, d before 26.10.1309

HJY

This is uncertain.

m John Wake, 1st Lord Wake d 1304

HJY

Fi21-3

Jean de Fiennes of Tigny a 1333

m Isabelle of Flanders d 1323, dau of Guy de Dampierre, Count of Flanders

a

Jeanne de Fiennes

GSY

m c1314 Jean de Chatillon, Count of St. Pol d 1334

GSY

Fi22

Maud de Fiennes

m Humphrey de Bohun, 3rd Earl of Hereford, Earl of Essex, Constable of England d 1297

Fi22-3

Sir Giles de Fiennes b c1250, d 1293

m Sybilla Fillol;

i

Sir John Fiennes b c1280, d 1331

m Jean Jordan;

a

Sir John Fiennes d 05.04.1351

m Maud de Monceaux

-1

Sir William Fiennes b 02.02.1331/2, d 30.11.1359, 2nd son m 12.11.1351 Joan de Saye dau of

+1 Geoffrey de Saye, 2nd Lord

-1-1

Elizabeth Fiennes b 1348 Hurstmonceaux Sussex d 1386 m Sir Lawrence of Bradfield Hall, Essex

-1-1-1

Sir John Raynsford b 1379 Rainsford Hall Lancashire d 1422 m Ann Stokeay

-1-1-1-1

Sir Henry Raynsford b 1404 Tew Magna Oxford d there 3 May 1469 m Elizabeth Wilcotes Heiress of Great Tew

-1 William Raynsford Lord of Great Tew m Alice Agnes Anne Aune b c 1450 Frickley York dau of John Aune and Catherine Glanville -2 John Raynsford -3 Humphrey Raynsford

-1-1 Elizabeth Raynsford -1-2 Sir John Raynsford, of Mychell Tew -1-3 Johanna Raynsford b 1475 Solihul Warwick m Thomas Hawes b c 1466 Hillfield Solihill Warwick son of Thomas Hawes and Ann Greswold -1-4 Henry Raynsford -1-5 William Raynsford

-1-1-1-1 -1-3-1 Thomas Rainsford Hawes VIII b 1505 Solihill d there 12 Jun 1574 m1 Elizabeth Brome + 2 ch m2 Ann Gresold + 1 ch

-1-3-1-1 Constance Shepherd Hawes m Hatley -1-3-1-2 William Hawes -1-3-1-3 Naves Hawes b 1530 Great Missenden Buks m Henry Lane

-1-3-1-3-1 Anne Lane b 25 Oct 1545 Gr Missenden m Nicholas Williams

-1-3-1-3-1-1 Thomas Williams b 1570 Redruth Cornwall m Grace Bray

-1-3-1-3-1-1-1 Edmond Williams b 1626 Redruth and had Robert Williams b 22 Mar 1654 m Katherine Eddy b 1654 Phillack Cornwall had issue

-1-1-1-2

John Raynsford

-1-2

John Fiennes b 20 Jul 1356 Hurstmonceaux Sussex

-1-3

Sir William Fiennes sheriff of Surrey b 1 Aug 1357 Hurstmonceaux Sussex d 1402 Chevening Kent m1 Elizabeth Battisford + 2 ch m2 Joan Douglas

-1-3-1

Sir Roger Fiennes b 14 Sep 1384 Hurstmonceaux Sussex m Elizabeth de Holland b c 1389 Brackley Northampton d 18 Nov 1449 Hurstmonceaux Sussex dau of John Holland 1st Duke of Exeter and Elizabeth Plantagenet (dau of John of Gaunt)

-1-3-1-1

James Fiennes b c 1413 Hurstmonceaux Sussex

-1-3-1-2

Margaret Fiennes b 1414 Hurstmonceaux Sussex m Nicholas Carew of Beddingham b 1405 d 20 Apr 1458

-1-3-1-3

Sir Richard Fiennes, Lord Dacre Hurstmonceaux Sussex

-1-3-1-4

Sir Hugh Fenne Hurstmonceaux Sussex, Treasurer to the Household

-1-3-1-5

Robert Fiennes b c 1412 Hurstmonceaux Sussex Phillipa Dacre b 1428 Gisland Northumbria dau of Sir Thomas Dacre and Elizabeth Bowett b 1405 Horsfordburgh St Margarets Norfolk wid of John Gatesbury

-1 Margaret Fenne b 1444 Sculton d 28 Sep 1485 ()stirnet shows her as , dau/heir of Sir Hugh Fenne, Treasurer m1 Thomas de Neville m2 Geroge Neville 2nd Baron Bergavenny b c 1440 Raby Castle Durham son of Sir

-1-1 Sir George Neville5th Lord Bergavenny b 07.1483 ??1465 seems more likely, d 1535 studied at Baliol College and became secretary at court in London 1483, fought at the Battle of Deptford Bridge against the Cornish uprising 17 Jun 1497, Constable of Dover Castle, Privy Council, 1513 Knight of the Order of the Garter, charged with treason by Cardinal Wolsey together with his father-in-law Edwrad Stafford, 3rd Duke of Buckingham, who was beheaded 17 may 1521, but he was acquitted for lack of evidence. 1530 again in the favor of Henry VII, 1534 Lord Warden of the Cinque Ports. m1 Joan FitzAlan dspm, dau of Thomas FitzAlan, Earl of Arundel, by Margaret Widville -1-2 Elizabeth Neville m Thomas Berkeley of Beverton Castle d c1500 -1-3 Sir Edward Neville of Addington Park m Eleanor Windsor dau of Andrew Windsor, 1st Lord -1-4 William Neville -1-5 Sir Thomas Neville, -1-6 Sir Richard de Neville

-1-3-2

Sir James Fiennes, 1st Baron Saye

-1-3-3

Richard Fynes/Fiennes

-1-4

Robert Fiennes Hurstmonceaux Sussex

-1-5

Roger Fiennes

2+

other issue - John d c1327, Robert, John

ii+

other issue - Robert, Eleanor

Fi22-4+

other issue - Reginald, Robert of Heuchin, Ingelgram Enguerrand

Fi23-2

William de Fiennes = William de la Plaunche;

A

William de la Plaunche;

i

James de la Plaunche of Haversham, Buckinghamshire;

m Maud de Haversham dau of Nicholas de Haversham of Haversham;

a

William de la Plaunche of Haversham;

m Elizabeth Hillary dau of Sir Roger Hillary of Bescot

1

Elizabeth de la Plaunche b c1347, dsps after 01.09.1423;

m1 before 03.07.1356 Sir John de Bermingham dsp before 1393

m2 Robert Grey, 4th Lord of Rotherfield d 01.1387/8

m3. before 24.10.1388 John de Clinton, 3rd Lord d 09.1398

m4. Sir John Russell;

2

Katharine de la Plaunche;

Thanks to a site visitor OWC, 28.01.08 for reporting that 'A History of the County of Buckinghamshire Vol 3, 1925 identifies her husbands as ...;

m1 ??;

m2 William de Bermingham of Hoggeston;

m3. Sir Bernard Brocas;

b

Joan de la Plaunche;

m John de Pabenham;

ii

John de la Plaunche;

iii

Alice de la Plaunche;

m John de Montfort, 1st Lord d before 11.05.1296

Fi23-3

Maud de Fiennes;

GS

m Bauduin III, Count de Guisnes d 1244

GS

Fi23-4

Agnes de Fiennes

m Bartholomew de Hampden

Sources: various web sites including 'Tudor'
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