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There is no known relationship of this family to that shown in "Butler 1" which gave rise to the Earls of Ormonde and other Botiller or Butler families in Ireland. Ralph, the first reported below, was butler to Robert, Earl of Mellent and Leicester. | It is really something to sing and dance about. Dig up those old bones and get them dancing! |
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Ralph Boteler of Oversley a 1140 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
1. | Robert Boteler of Oversley | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
A. | Ralph Boteler of Oversley | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
B023 =24 =25 =26 =27 =28 | Maurice Boteler b c 1185 Oversley d 1237 Shropshire a 1230
m Matilda de Bellamy b 1183 Arrow Warwick |
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Bo22 =23 =24 =25 =26 =27 | Ralph Boteler of Oversley later Wemme/Wem b c 1220 Oversley Warwick d by 3 Jul 1281 Wemme Shropshire
m Maud Pantulf dau of William Pantulf of Wemme |
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Bo21 =22 =23 =25 =26 | Margaret le Boteler b c 1255 Wem Shropshire d aft 1301
m Warine de Raleigh b c 1240 Nettlecombe d aft 1216 |
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Bo21 =22 =23 =25 | Warin de Ralegh b c 1255 Somerset, Nettlecombe d aft 1242
m Joanne Boteler b c 1255 Wem Shropshire d 1301 Nettlecombe |
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Bo20 =21 | Sir Simon de Ralegh b c 1269 Somerset, Nettlecombe d aft 1301 Glamorgan, Wrenchester Castle
m Joan le Tort b c 1270 Owlknolle Somerset dau of Laurence le Tort b c 1243 |
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Bo24 =25 =26 | William Boteler of Wemme b c 1245 d c 12.1283 | m after 02.10.1261 Angharad Ankaret a 06.1308, dau of Grufydd, Lord of Bromfield | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
Bo23-1 | John Boteler of Wemme b 17.07.1266/7, dsp before 04.09.1287 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
m after 18.07.1284 Alianore de Beauchamp b 11.11.1275, dau of Walter de Beauchamp of Alcester | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Bo23-2 | Gawine Boteler of Wemme b 02.02.1269/70, dsp before 03.03.1289/90 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
m Alice de Montgomery ? a 09.1334 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Bo23-3 | William Boteler of Wemme and Oversley, 1st Lord b 11.06.1274, d before 14.09.1334 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
m1 before 1298 Beatrice a 1305 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
i | William Boteler of Wemme, 2nd Lord b 08.09.1298, d 12.1361 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
m Margaret FitzAlan dau of Richard FitzAlan, 7th Earl of Arundel | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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We are following TCP Boteler of Wem and BE1883 in showing this William
as married only once, to Margaret FitzAlan. Visitation shows the same but,
as it shows William as son of the Ralph who married Maude Pantulf, thereby
missing out 2 generations, it loses some credibility. Visitation shows
this William as father of another William m. Ella Handslagh or Hansacre
who had 2 sons: William who married Johanna Sudeley and Ralph, who married
_ Hanlow, father of the heiress Elizabeth.
2 BE1883 Boteler identifies the following William's wife as Joane Sudeley, dau of John, Lord Sudeley, but does not report having a son by her, only his dau/heiress Elizabeth. BE1883 Sudeley identifies Joan's husband as "William Boteler, of Wemme", showing them as having a son Thomas who inherited Sudeley Castle. TCP Boteler of Wem identifies the following William's wife merely as "Elizabeth" and confirms that they dspm. 3 It appears that some sites identify Joan Sudeley as second wife of this William 2nd Lord, possibly in an attempt to explain why the barony of Wemme did not pass to Thomas, son of the William who married Joane Sudeley. Joan's husband is described in TCP Sudeley as "William le Botiler Boteler, knight" which refers by note to Dugdale's 'Baronage' vol i where this William is shown as having had 2 sons both called William, the younger married to Joan Sudeley. We are suspicious about this and provisionally continue to show this 2nd William and his descendants on 'Sudeley1'. |
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a | William Boteler of Wemme, 3rd Lord b c1331, d 14.08.1369 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
m before 07.1343 Elizabeth | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
1 | Elizabeth Boteler b c1345, d 06.1411 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
m1 Robert de Ferrers, 1st Lord of Wemme d 1380 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m2 sp Sir John Say | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m3. sp Sir Thomas Molinton, "Baron of Wemme" | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Shown by Visitation as a younger son of William and Margaret FitzAlan was ... | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
b | Sir Ralph Boteler of Woodhall | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
m Hawise dau of Richard son of Hugh Gobion | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ii | Isabel Boteler probably of this generation, presumed of this marriage | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
m1 before 1309 Simon Basset of Sapcote d 1328 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m2 Sir Alexander Walsham | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m2 before 02.1315/6 Ela dau of Roger de Herdeburgh | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
iii | Ankeret Boteler d 08.10.1361 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
m John le Strange, 2nd Lord of Blackmere b c1305, d 21.07.1349 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
iv | Ida Boteler | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
m William Trussell | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
v | Alice Boteler | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
BE1883 identifies Alice's husband as Nicholas Langford but this appears to be the Alice, identified by Commoners vol II, Sandford of Sandford as great aunt of the Elizabeth who conveyed Wemme into the Ferrers family, who married ... | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m Nicholas Sandford of Sandford | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
vi | Dionyse Boteler | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
m Hugh de Cokesey | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
vii+ | other issue dsp - Edmund, Edward | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
Bo24 =25 | reported by geni.com was:
Sir Nigel le Boteler b c 1269 Plumpton Yorkshire m Agnes x b c 1269 Plympton St Mary Devon |
-1 Agnes Boteler d 1311
m William de Midelton b c 1271 Plumpton d there 1318 |
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Bo23 | Anne Boteler
m Sir Gilbert Talbot, 1st Baron, Lord Chamberlain d 1346 |
Sources: BE1883 Boteler of Oversley and Wemme, TCP Boteler of Wem + (with some contradiction) Visitation Hertfordshire, 1572+1634,
Boteler of Woodhall
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