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Venables: Venables of Bollin, Venables of Bradwell, Venables of Golborne, Venables of Kinderton
Ve28 =29 =30 =31. Gilbert de Venables of Kinderton b c 1050 a 1086 Since Gilbert de Venables eldest brother was born in 1046 and presuming his other half siblings were born before him he could have born in 1050, which would make him 16 at the time of the Conquest making it possible to have taken part in it. Gilbert came over to England with the Conqueror whose daughter Adela was his sister-in-law. King Stephen, who reigned 1135-1154, was Gilbert's nephew.
Ve27 =28 =29 =30 William or Gilbert de Venables of Kinderton b c 1075
Ve26 =27 =28 =29 Gilbert de Venables of Kindertonb c 1110
m Margery of Hatton dau of Walter FitzWolfirc, lord of Hatton
Ve25 =26 =27 =28 Sir William de Venables of Kinderton b c 1150 d c 1230
Ve24 =25 =26 =27 Hugh or Hamon de Venables of Kinderton b c 1180 d 1249
m1. div Gwenllian
m2 Alice or Agnes de Oxton dau of Ranulph de Oxton
Ve23 =24 =25 Roger de Venables of Kinderton b c 1215 d c1261
m. Alice Peninton dau of Alan de Peninton or Pennington
Ve22 =23 =24 Sir William de Venables of Kinderton b c 1240 d 1292
m1. ??
Ve21-1 Cecily de Venables b c 1268
m. Adnace of Allcham ?
m2. 1253 Margaret Dutton dau of Thomas de Dutton
Ve21 =22 =23 Sir Hugh de Venables of Kinderton b c 1270, Sheriff of Cheshire d 1310
m. Agatha Vernon dau of Ralph de Vernon of Shipbroke
Ve21-1 William de Venables b c 1304 dsp
Ve21 =22 Sir Hugh de Venables of Kinderton b c 1306
m1. Elizabeth Mobberley dau of Sir William Mobberley
Ve20-1 William de Venables dvp 1350
m1. sp Agnes Dutton dau of Sir Peter de Dutton of Warburton
m2 Maud Vernon dau of Richard de Vernon of Shipbrook
Ve20-1-1 issue dsp - Maud
Ve20-1-2 Katherine de Venebles possibly m William de Marney -1? Sir Robert de Marney b c 1340
m Alice Layer dau of Richard Layer of Suffolk
-1-1 Sir William Marney of Layer Marney, Sheriff of Essex and Hertfordshire b about 1365 d 1414
m Elizabeth Sergeants dau of Richard Sergeants or Sergiaux
-1-1-1 x Marney d unm
-1-1-2 William Marney d unm
-1-1-3 Sir John Marney of Layer Marney d c 1471 m before 27.04.1447 Jane Throckmorton dau of John Throckmorton of Gloucestershire

-1-1-3-1 Sir Henry Marney, 1st Lord of Layer Marney b 1457, d 24.05.1523 m1 Thomasine Arundell dau of Sir John Arundell of Lanherne

-1-1-3-1-1 John Marney, 2nd Lord b c 1493, d 27.04.1525 m1 Christian Newburgh d 06.08.1517 + 2 ch dau/heir of Sir Roger Newburgh m2 Bridget Waldegrave bur 20.09.1549, dau of Sir William Waldegrave

-1-1-3-1-1-1 Katherine Marney b c 1515
m1 c 1528 George Ratcliffe dsp before 11.1542, son of Robert, Earl of Sussex
m2 Sir Thomas Poynings, Sheriff of Kent, Baron dsp 17/8.08.1545
-1-1-3-1-1-2 Elizabeth Marney b c 1517
m Thomas Howard, 1st Viscount of Bindon d 28.01.1581/2
Ve20-2 John de Venables dvp
m. Isabel Egerton dau of Philip de Egerton
A William de Venables d young
m2. Katherine Houghton dau of Richard Houghton
Ve20 =21 Sir Hugh de Venables of Kinderton, Sheriff of Cheshire d 1382-3
m. Margery Cotton dau of Perkin or Hugh de Cotton
Ve20-1 Sir Richard Venables of Kinderton d 23.07.1403
m. Isabel Langton dau of Rawlin de Langton of Newton and Walton
Ve20-1-1 Sir Hugh Venables of Kinderton Visitation shows this Hugh's wife and mother of Richard, Jane and Elizabeth as married to Parnell Dutton whom we provisionally show as married to his son.
m. Cicely
Ve20-1-1-1 Sir Hugh Venables of Kinderton dsp
m Parnell Dutton b c 1400 dau of Sir Piers Dutton she ?m2 his brother Richard or uncle Henry Venables and had issue
Ve20-1-1-2 Sir Richard Venables of Kinderton ancestor of Thomas Jefferson
m. Elizabeth Radclyffe dau of Sir John Radclyffe of Ordsall
1 Sir Hugh Venables of Kinderton dsp Bloreheath 1459
m. Elizabeth Troutbeck dau of William Troutbeck
Ve20-1-1-3 Jane Venables
m. Richard Cotton of Richware
Ve20-1-1-4 Elizabeth Venables
m. Sir Adam Bostock of Bostock d Bloreheath 1459
Ve20-1-2 Henry Venables of Kinderton
Ve20-1-3 Joan Venables
m1. Thomas Grosvenor of Hulme
m2. Sir Thomas Booth of Barton
Ve20-2 Thomas Venables of Horton ancestor of Venables of Horton and Ayton
Ve20-3 William Venables, later of Golborne Constable of Chester
m. Blanche
Ve20-4 Ellen Venables
m. Thomas Erdeswick
Ve20-5 Emily or Angella Venables This is probably the Amilia, wife of Sir William Brereton, who is shown by Ormerod as being of 2 generations earlier.
m 1386 William Brereton
Ve20-6 Isabel Venables
m. David Egerton son of Philip
Ve20 Margery Venables b c 1370
m1 Richard Bulkeley of Cheadle
m2 1393 Randle Mainwaring of Over Peover b c 1368, d 1456 -1 Sir John Mainwaring of Over Peover d before 1481 Visitation 1580 shows Sir John's wife as Margaret Tuchett, dau of Lord Audley, and shows Mary Delves as first wife of their son William. We follow BP1934 & BLG1952 in showing the marriages as follows ... m1 1411 Margaret Delves dau of John Delves of Doddington
-2 William Mainwaring of Ightfield b c1396, d 1499 m Margaret Warren dau of John Warren
-3 Randle Mainwaring of Kirmincham or Carincham m Margaret Savage dau of Sir John Savage of Stainesby and Clifton
-4 Hugh Mainwaring or Manwaring of Croxton m Warren Croxton dau of _ Croxton of Croxton
-5 Elizabeth Mainwaring
-6 Cicely Mainwaring m Thomas Fowlehurst of Crewe
-7 Joan Mainwaring m 1411 John Davenport of Davenport
-8 Ellen Mainwaring m Thomas Fitton of Gawsworth
-9 Agnes Mainwaring d unm
-10 Margaret Mainwaring m1 William Bromley of Boddington family m2 Sir John Nidham judge in Chester
-11 Clemence Mainwaring mentioned by various web sites m 1413 William Beeston of Beeston d 1416
-12 Maud Mainwaring possibly of this generation m William Poole of Poole a 1429
-13 Alice Mainwaring possibly of this generation m William Richard de Spurstowe

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Ve20-4 Roger de Venables of Golborne a 1380
m. Elizabeth Golborne dau of William Golborne of Golborne
A Hugh Venables of Golborne
Ve20 Joan Venables
m. Sir Thomas de Latham
La19 Isabel de Latham
m 1385 Sir John de Stanley b 1340, d 1414
Ve22 Sir Richard de Venables of Bollin b c 1308 Shown by Ormerod as being son rather than brother of Sir Hugh by Katherine Houghton.
m. Joan Fitton dau of Hamon Fitton of Bollin
Ve21 Sir William Venables of Bollin b c 1340
m Jane Massy dau of John Massey of Tatton
Ve20 Dowce/Dulcia Venables b c 1390
m. Sir Robert Booth of Dunham Bo20, Sheriff of Cheshire b c 1405 (may have been much earlier) d 16.09.1450
Ve20-2 Alice Venables
m Edmund Trafford d 1457
Ve21-2 Jenkin Venables
m. ?? widow of _ Starky of Stretton
Ve21-4 Thomas Venables of Horton and Hartford
Whereas Visitation 1580 places Thomas here without question, Visitation 1613 provides an alternative version alongside that version, showing him as possibly 3rd son with elder brothers Richard and William of Hugh son of John, without specifying who that John was.
Ve21-5 Ellen de Venables
m. John Ardvine son of Sir John
Ve21-6 Isabel de Venables
m. David de Egerton dsp
Ve20-7 daughter possibly of this generation one after ?
m. Edward Giffard of Chillington a 1378
Ve20 Alice de Venables apparently of this generation
m Sir John de Arderne of Alford and Alvanley d c 1349
Ve21-9+ other issue - Robert, John, William
Ve21-10? possibly of this generation and branch was:
Joan Venables b 1360
m Sir John Handforth
-1 Maud Handforth b c 1380 Leicestershire d 1489 m Sir Hugh Calveley b c 1385 Lea East Cheshire d 1433 Nantwich
Ve22 =Le22 William de Venables of Bradwall William's son by his first marriage is shown under Agnes. He was ancestor of many families of the name of Legh or Leigh.
m1 Agnes le Legh dau of Richard de Legh of High Legh
m2. Katherine de St. Pierre dau of Sir Urian de St. Pierre
Ve21-2 William de Venables of Bradwall
m. Katherine Grosvenor
Ve21-2-1 Jane de Venables
m. Thomas Berington
Ve21-2-2 Elene de Venables
m. Robert de Knyperley
Ve23-2 Rose de Venables
m. Alexander de Bamvyte
Ve23-3 Roger de Venables
Ve23-4 Amy de Venables
m. Hugh de Hatton
Ve24-2 Elizabeth de Venables
Ve24-3 Beatrix de Venables
m. Roger de Toft
?Ve24 =26 Roese de Venables, supposedly of this generation
m. Robert de Stokeport
Ve25-2 William de Venebles of .. and Raynor
Ve25-2-1 Lettice de Venables
m1. Sir Phillip Bamville
m2. Sir Richard Wilbram de Wilburgham
m3. Robert Croft
Ve25-2-2 Beatrix de Venables
Ve25-3+ other issue - Robert, Ve25-4 Hamon/Hugh
Ve26 =Le26 Hamon de Venables or Leigh of High Legh a temp Henry II who r. 1154-1189
Ve26 =25 Amabil de Venables b about 1140
m. Richard de Davenport
Ve26-4+ other issue - Gilbert, Ve26-5 Michael, Ve26-6 Richard, Ve26-7 Hugh, Ve26-8 Maud b about 1145

Ssources: Visitation Cheshire, 1580, Venables Baron of Kinderton + various web sites, in particular http://venables.free.fr
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