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| St25 =26 =27 =28 =30 =31. Ranulph 'the Rich' from Normandy | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| St24 =25 =26 =27 =29 =30 | Simon de St. Liz, Earl of Huntingdon and Northampton d 1115
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| The earldom of Huntingdon became somewhat of a pawn of political negotiation between the English and the Scots. After Simon's death it was taken by David later King David 1 of Scots then his son Henry. After Henry's death, the title reverted to Simon's son Simon. After his death it then went to Henry's son Malcolm King of Scots then Malcolm's brother William King of Scots then it returned to the third/last Simon de St. Liz. When that Simon died, it went to David, son of William King of Scots then his son John 'le Scot'. When John died without issue, the earldom became extinct. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| St23-1 | Simon
de St. Liz, Earl of Northampton, later of Huntingdon d 1153
m Isabelle de Beaumont d after 1188, dau of Robert de Beaumont, 2nd Earl of Leicester, Viceroy of England |
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| St23-1-1 | Simon de St. Liz, Earl of Northampton, later of Huntingdon dsp 1184
m Alice Gant dau of Gilbert de Gant, Earl of Lincoln |
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| St23-1-2 | Amice de St. Liz | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| St23-1-3 | Hawyse de St. Liz | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| St23-2 | Waltheof de St. Liz, Abbot of Melrose | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| St23 =24 =25 =26 =28 =29 | Maud de St. Liz d 1140
m1 1112 Robert FitzRichard Fi26 =29 =Cl28, Lord of Little Dunmow b c1065, d 1134, steward to King Henry I |
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| Fi25 =27 =28 | Walter FitzRobert of Woodham Walter d 1198
m1 Margaret de Bohun d 1146 m2 1148 Maud de Lucy + ch dau of Richard de Lucy of Diss |
-1 Robert FitzWalter of Woodham Walter and Dunmow Castle d Damietta 1234 �C
m1
Gunnora de Valoniis + 3 ch dau of Robert de Valoniis or Valoines of Bennington, m2 Rohese + ?1 ch
-2 Alice FitzWalter probably of this generation m Gilbert Pecche d before 09.07.1212 |
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Walter FitzRobert FitzWalter of Woodham Walter b c1222, d before10.04.1258 m1
Maud m2
Ida de Longespee Plantagenet a 07.1271 + ch, dau of William de Longespee Plantagenet, 2nd Earl of Salisbury BE1883
reports that Robert was born by Walter's first wife, Maud, but TCP FitzWalter
confirms that Ida was mother of ...
-1-2 Matilda/Maud FitzWalter dsp c 1212 m Geoffrey Mandeville, 2nd/5th Earl of Essex, Earl of Gloucester dsp 23.02.1215/6 -1-3 Christian FitzWalter m1 before 18.11.1220 William Mandeville, 3rd/6th Earl of Essex d 08.01.1226/7 -1-4? Amphilis Fitzwalter Fi25 b 1198 m Sir Philip de Wasteneys Wa25 b 1332 |
-1-1-1 Sir Robert FitzWalter, 1st Lord FitzWalter b 1247, d 18.01.1325-6
m1
Devorgilla de Burgh b c1257, d 1284, dau of Sir John de Burgh of Wakerley
-1-4-1 Sir William de Wasteneys -1-4-2 Sir Stephen de Wasteneys |
-1-4-1-1 Sir William de Wasteneys b c 1243 Colton m Margaret x b -1-4-1-2 William Wasteneys le Jovene b c 1245 Colton |
-1-4-1-1-1 John de Wasteneys b c 1270 Colton m c 1294 Isabella Hay b c 1273 -1-4-1-1-2 Reginald de Wasteneys b c 1272 Colton -1-4-1-1-3 Edmund de Wasteneys b c 1274 Colton |
-1-4-1-1-1-1 Sir William de Wasteneys b c 1295 Colton -1-4-1-1-1-2 Philip dDe Wasteneys b c 1297 m c 1326 Willema x -1-4-1-1-1-3 John de Wasteneys b c 1200 -1-4-1-1-1-4 Constance de Wasteneys b c 1301 -1-4-1-1-1-5 William de Wasteneys b c 1309 -1-4-1-1-1-6 Elizabeth de Wasteneys b 1313 Colton m John Cornwall |
-1-4-1-1-1-1-1 Sir Thomas Wasteneys b c 1320 Colton d 1363 m c 13 -1-4-1-1-1-1-2 John de Wasteneys b c 1322 Colton -1-4-1-1-1-1-3 Isabella de Wasteneys b c 1324 Colton m c 1345 Robert de Jortz -1-4-1-1-1-1-4 Stephen de Wasteneys b c 1328 Colton m Joanna x |
-1-4-1-1-1-1-1-1 Thomasine de Wasterneys b c 1344 m1 c 1363 Sir Nicholas Gresley b c 1344 m2 b May 1389 Hamon Pershale -1-4-1-1-1-1-1-2 William de Wasteneys b c 1346 -1-4-1-1-1-1-1-3 John de Wasteneys b c 1358 -1-4-1-1-1-1-1-4 Thomas de Wasteneys b c 1350 |
-1-4-1-1-1-1-1-1-1 Sir Thomas Gresley b 1366 Gresley Drakelow Derbys -1-4-1-1-1-1-1-1-2 Roger Gresley b c 1366 |
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| m2 William de Albini Da24 'Brito', lord of Belvoir d c1155 | -1 William de Albini, 'Meschines' or 'Brito', lord of Belvoir d c 1168 m Adelisa
-2 Ralph de Albini or d'Aubigne of Ingleby d Acre 1190 TCP Daubeney starts with this Ralph, making no reference to any possible connection with the family of Albini of Belvoir but TCP Percy does include a note that identifies him as brother of William of Belvoir. BE1883 indicates that his wife was Sibella de Valoines but TCP Daubney identifies her as the following Maud. TCP Percy identifies Sibyl de Valognes as a husband of Ralph but, given that that was her 3rd marriage, she was probably Ralph's 2nd or later wife. m1 Maud Mahet dau of William de Montsorel, Sn de Landal -3 Matilda de Albini d'Aubigny a 1210 m Gilbert, 3rd Earl of Strathearn b c1150, d 1223 -4? Gundred d�ubigny b 1125 Thirsk North Riding York m Bertram Haget |
-1-1 William de Albini, lord of Belvoir d 1236 �C a commander at 2nd Battle of Lincoln
m1 Margery or Matilda de Umfraville
-2-1 Philip de Albini or d'Aubigne of Ingleby, Governor of Ludlow then Jersey, etc d 1235/before 20.12.1224 -2-2 Sir Ralph de Albini or d'Aubigne of South Ingleby, Sn de Landal d before 25.01.1291/2 m Isabel a 04.08.1294 |
-1-1-1 William de Albini, lord of Belvoir m1 Albreda dau of Henry, Lord Biseth
-1-1-2+ other issue - Sir Odinel, Robert, Nicholas rector of Bottesford -2-2-1 Sir Philip de Albini or d'Aubigne of South Ingleby, etc. dsp before 16.07.1294 -2-2-2 Sir Helie or Elias de Albini or Daubeney of South Ingleby, etc., 1st Lord d before 08.04.1305 m Joan BE1883 names her Hawise -2-2-3 Owen de Albini |
-1-1-1-1 Isabel de Albini
m Robert de Ros of Hamlake and Belvoir, 1st Lord d 16.06.1285
-2-2-2-1 Sir Ralph Daubeney of South Ingleby, etc., 2nd Lord a 1343 TCP Daubeney shows his marriages the other way around but we provisionally follow BE1883 on the order of marriages as TCP Botreaux identifies Elizabeth's mother, Katherine, as Ralph's 1st wife. m2 Katherine Thweng + 1 ch dau of William de Thweng, Lord m2 m1 Alice de Montacute + 1 ch dau of Simon de Montacute, 1st Lord |
-2-2-2-1-1 Elizabeth Daubeney d 29.05.1433 m 02.1369/70 William de Botreaux, 1st Lord b 01.09.1337, d 10.08.1391 -2-2-2-1-2 Sir Giles Daubeney, '3rd Lord' d 24.06.1386 m after 05.01.1358/9 Alianor de Wylington d 06.08.1400, dau of Henry de Wylington or Wilington of Umberleigh by Isabel de Walesbreu |
-2-2-2-1-2-1 Sir Giles Daubeney, '4th Lord', Sheriff of Bedfordshire and Buckinghamshire b by 11.1370, d c1402 m Margaret d 30.06.1420, said to have been dau of Sir John Beauchamp -2-2-2-1-2-2 Thomas Daubney b c 1375 ?= Thomas Daubeny of Sherrington m Margery Peyton, -2-2-2-1-2-3 William Daubney b c 1378 -2-2-2-1-2-4? possibly here was: Eleanor d'Aubeny b 1364 Alston m Nicholas Veteripoint b c 1360 Alston Cumberland d there 1420 |
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| m3 Saier de Quincy of Bushby Qu23 =25 =26 =27 =28 =29 >We show her husbands to follow the cross-references in the sources on those families. However, BE1883 St. Liz, whilst reporting them, does report some uncertainty. We also note that there was mention in BE1883 that Robert FitzRichard had married Maud's aunt Judith of Huntingdon as well as or instead of Maud. TCP Winchester confirms that Maud married Robert FitzRichard before Saier de Quincy but does not mention the marriage to William de Albini. | -1 Saher de Quency II d 1190, justice in Normandy m 1162 Asceline Peverel d by 1190, dau of Robert Peverel of Bourn)
-2 Robert de Quency d before 25.12.1197 m1 div Orable + 1 ch dau of Nes -3 Alice de Quincy b c 1145 ? Long Buckby Northampton d Dec 1204 Frampton Boston Lincoln m Roger de Huntingfield, Lord of East Bradenham b c 1141 Huntingfield d 1204 Frampton Boston Lincoln |
-2-1 Robert de Quincy (dvp 1217) TCP (Winchester) reports that this Robert dsp but this appears to be in error so, supported by TCP (Lincoln), we follow BE1883 in showing the following family. BE1883 says he had an only daughter (Margaret) but then also mention Mabel. m. Hawise de Kevliock (dau of Hugh 'Keveliok' de Meschines, 3rd Earl of Chester) -2-2 Roger de Quincy, 2nd Earl of Winchester d 25.04.1264 m1 Helen of Galloway d after 21.11.1245, dau of Alan, lord of Galloway -2-3 Robert de Quincy (d 1257) apparently had the same name as his eldest brother, TCP mentions a brother John but no Robert. However, TCP (Chester), supported by TCP (Hereford), confirms that Helen of Wales's 2nd husband was Robert, "yst. s. of Saer, Earl of Winchester" and TCP (Wake) confirms him as "yst. br. of Roger, 2nd Earl. m Helen of Wales d 1253, dau of Llewelyn the Great, Prince of North Wales m Joan, Lady of Wales (dau of King John of England by Clemence Pinel) -2-4 Hawise de Quincy m. Hugh de Vere, 4th Earl of Oxford d 1263 -2-5 Loretta de Quincy m William de Valoniis of Panmure, Chamberlain of Scotland d 1219 -2-6 Arabella de Quincy identified in BE1883 Harcourt m Sir Richard de Harcourt of Stanton Harcourt b c 1202, d 1258 -2-7? x de Quincy b c 1195 m Hugh le Despenser of Loughborough, etc b c 1190 Loughborough Leicestershire d c23.02.1238 -3-1 -3-2-3-1 Alice Tankersley b 1269 Tankersley West Riding York d 1312 Elmshall York m Richard le Tyas b 1285 Burgh Wallis Doncaster West Riding York d 1350 Elmshall son of Richard le Tyes und Ellen de Neville b c 1235 Redbourne Glanford Brigg Lincoln -3-2 John de Thornhill b 1180 d 1249 Fixby Hall Huddersfield York m Olive de la Mare b 1200 Dicton York d 1254 -3-3 Eve de Lalander -3-4 William de Thornhill |
-3-2-1 John de Thornhill b c 1230 -3-2-2 Simon de Thornhill Th20 b 1232 d 1270 -3-2-3 Sarah de Thornhill b c 1233 m Richard de Tankersley b c 1230 d 1268 Yorkshire son of Sir Henry de Tankersley -3-2-3-2 Joan de Eland -3-2-4 Walter de Thornhill -3-2-5 Richard de Thornhill |
-3-2-2-1 Elizabeth Thornhill m Sir Henry Savile Sa19 -3-2-3-1 Alice Tankersley b 1269 Tankersley West Riding York d 1312 Elmshall York m Richard le Tyas b 1285 Burgh Wallis Doncaster West Riding York d 1350 Elmshall son of Richard le Tyes und Ellen de Neville b c 1235 Redbourne Glanford Brigg Lincoln |
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| Hereward of Segrave | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 1. | Gilbert of Segrave a 1166, d before 25.12.1201 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| A. | Stephen of Segrave, Sheriff of Buckingham, Bedford, Worcester, Leicester and Northampton d 1241 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| m1 Rohese dau of Thomas le Despenser, sister of Hugh Despenser | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| m2 Ida de Hastings dau of William de Hastings | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| It is not known which wife was mother of Stephen's children. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| i. | John de Segrave dvp 1229 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| m Emma de Cauz dau of Roger de Cauz | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ii. | Gilbert of Segrave d before 08.10.1254 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| m before 30.09.1231 Amabil de Chaucombe dau of Robert de Chaucombe | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| a. | Sir Nicholas de Segrave, 1st Lord b 17.12.1238, d before 12.11.1295 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| m Maud | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 1 | John de Segrave, 2nd Lord b c1256, d before 04.10.1325 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| m 1269-70 Christiane de Plessy dau of Sir Hugh de Plessy or Plessis or Plessetis of Hookrnorton and Kidlington | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| A | Stephen de Segrave, 3rd Lord d before 12.12.1325 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| BE1883 suggests that Stephen dvp. We follow TCP. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| m Alice Arundell | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| i | John de Segrave, 4th Lord b 1315, d 01.04.1353 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| m 1337 Margaret Plantagenet, Duchess of Norfolk b c1320, d 24.03.1399, dau of Thomas Plantagenet, Earl of Norfolk | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| a | Elizabeth Segrave b 25.10.1338, d 1375 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| m 1353 John de Mowbray, 4th Lord d 09.10.1368 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| B | _ de Segrave | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| m Juliane dau of John de Sandwich | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| i | John de Segrave of Folkestone d 07.1349 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| m Blanche | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| a | Mary de Segrave b c1334, d 01.09.1349 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| C | Christian de Segrave | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| m John de Mohun, younger of Dunster dvp | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| D | Ellen de Segrave d 1342 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| m William Ferrers, 1st Lord of Groby b 30.01.1271/2, d 20.03.1324/5 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 2 | Nicholas de Segrave of Barton Segrave, Marshal of England, Lord d 25.11.1321 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| m Alice | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| A | Maud de Segrave dsp before 20.03.1334/5 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| m Edmund de Bohun of Church Brampton | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 3 | Annabel de Segrave | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| m John de Plessis son of Hugh de Plessis or Plessetis | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 4+ | other issue - Geoffrey Sheriff of Leicester, Peter, Gilbert Bishop of London | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Gamel 'Auceps' of Scriven royal fowler, a temp Henry I 1100-1135 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 1. | Baldwin of Scriven forester of Knaresborough | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| A. | Henry de Scriven of Scriven | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| m Emma de Markington sister of Henry de Markington | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| i. | Baldwin of Scriven dsp | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ii. | Thomas de Scriven | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| m Agnes dau of John de Walkingham | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| a. | Henry de Scriven of Scriven | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| m Alice Caperon dau of Richard Caperon of Scotton | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 1 | Johanna de Scriven | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| m 20.02.1333 William de Slingsby of Stodleigh and Scriven b c1307, d 1349-50 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 2 | Agnes de Scriven | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| m1 William de Newsom | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| m2 div Richard Furneux | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| m3. William de Merkesale | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Sources:
1 BE1883 St. Liz of Huntingdon
2 TCP Segrave, BP1934 Mowbray, BE1883 Segrave
3 BLG1952 Slingsby formerly of Scriven
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