List of pedigrees Bland of Northern Neck Va. Nicholas of Roundway Hester of Fleming Co Ky Thruston Author's DNA match comparisons  |
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| Qu27 =28 =29 =30. Saher de Quency of Buckby = Saier de Quincy of Bushby d c1157
m Maud de St. Liz d by 1163, dau of | +1 Simon de St. Liz, Earl of Huntingdon and Northampton | |||||||||||||||||||||
| BE1883 identifies 2 sons of this marriage, Saier and Robert, but identifies Saier as the 1st Earl, showing him as brother rather than son of Robert. We follow TCP. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Qu26-1. | Saher de Quency II d 1190, justice in Normandy
m 1162 Asceline Peverel d by 1190, dau of Robert Peverel of Bourn |
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| Qu26-1-1 | Saher de Quency III dsp 1192 | |||||||||||||||||||||
| Qu26 =27 =28 =29 | Robert de Quency d before 25.12.1197
m1 div Orable dau of Nes, son of William of Leuchars |
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| Qu25 =26 =27 =28 | Saher de Quency IV = Saier de Quincy, 1st Earl of Winchester d 03.11.1219 §C
m Margaret Beaumont 'FitzParnell' d 02.1235, dau of Robert Beaumont, 3rd Earl of Leicester |
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| Qu25 =26 =27 | Robert de Quincy dvp 1217 TCP
Winchester reports that this Robert dsp but this appears to be in error
so, supported by TCP Lincoln, we follow BE1883 in showing the following
family. BE1883 says he had an only daughter Margaret but then also mention
Mabel. m Hawise de Kevliock dau of Hugh 'Keveliok' de Meschines, 3rd Earl of Chester |
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| Qu24 =25 =27 | Margaret de Quincy
m1 John de Lacy, 1st Earl of Lincoln d 1240 |
-1 Edmund de Lacy, 2nd Earl of Lincoln b 1230, d 02.06.1257/8
m 05.1247 Alice of Saluces
d before 12.07.1311/2, dau of Manfredo, Marchese di Saluzzo
-2 Maud de Lacy b c1223, d 10.03.1288 m by 25.01.1238 Richard de Clare, 6th Earl of Hertford, 2nd Earl of Gloucester b 04.08.1222 d 15.07.1262 -3 Idonea de Lacy m Roger de Camville |
-1-1 Henry de Lacy, 3rd Earl of Lincoln, Earl of Salisbury b 06/13.01.1250, d 05.02.1311
-1-2 Elenor de Lacy m Eubolo de Strange -1-3 Margaret de Lacy m Sir George de Cantilupe of Bergavenny and Haryngworth b 29.03.1252, dsp 18.10.1273 -1-4 2 ch d y -2-1 Isabel de Clare b 05.1240 d 1270 m William VII Marquis de Montferrat -2-2 Gilbert 'the Red' de Clare, 6th/7th Earl of Hertford, 3rd Earl of Gloucester b 02.09.1243, d 07.12.1295 m1 1253, div 1271 Alice de Lusignan dau of Hugh de Lusingan, Earl of Angouleme, by Yolande -2-3 Sir Thomas de Clare b c1245, d 02.1287/8, Governor of London m Juliana FitzMaurice a 1309, dau of Sir Maurice FitzMaurice, Lord Justice of Ireland -2-4 Bogo de Clare b about 1248 d 1294 -2-5 Margaret de Clare b 1249, dsp 1312 m 1272 div 1293/4 Edmund Plantagenet, Earl of Cornwall b 1249, dsp 1300 -2-6 Rohese de Clare b 17.10.1252 m 1270 Roger de Mowbray, 1st Lord d by 1297 -2-7+ Bevis/Benet b 21.07.1248, Robert?, Eglentine b 1257 d infant |
-2-6-1 John, 2nd Baron Mowbray Mo22 =24 m 1298 Aliva de Braose d by 20.07.1332, dau of William de Braose, Lord of Bramber and Gower -2-6-2 Alexander de Mowbray of Kirtlington or Kirklington Mo21 =22 =23 lived in Scotland m Elizabeth Muster dau of Henry Muster |
-2-6-1-1 John de Mowbray Mo21 =23, 3rd Lord b 29.11.1310 d 04.10.1361 m1 28 Feb 1326 Joane Plantagenet b c1312, d after 06.02.1345/7 or 07.07.1349, dau of Henry Plantagenet, 3rd Earl of Lancaster -2-6-2 Elizabeth Mowbray Mo20 =21 =22 m Sir William Gascoigne of Gawthorpe d 1412 |
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| Qu24-2 | Mabel de Quincy
m Hugh Audley |
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| m2 Walter Marshal, 5th Earl of Pembroke dsp 11.1245 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Qu24-3 | Mabel de Quincy ?confusion with above
m Hugh Audley |
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| Qu24 =25 =26 =27 | Roger
de Quincy, 2nd Earl of Winchester d 25.04.1264
m1 Helen of Galloway d after 21.11.1245, dau of Alan, lord of Galloway |
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| Qu23 =24 =25 =26 | Margaret de Quincy
m by 1238 William de Ferrers, 5th Earl of Derby d 24.03.1254 |
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| Qu24 | Elizabeth de Quincy
m Alexander Comyn, 2nd Earl of Buchan d 1289 |
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| Qu23 =24 | Elena Ela de Quincy d 1296
m Sir Alan la Zouche of Ashby Zo23 d 10.08.1270 |
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| m2 before 05.06.1250 Maud de Bohun dau of Humphrey de Bohun, 2nd Earl of Hereford, Earl of Essex, Constable | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| a. | Isabell de Quincy | |||||||||||||||||||||
| m Hugh Nevill | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| m3. before 05.12.1252 Eleanor Ferrers dsp by 26.10.1274, dau of William de Ferrers, 5th Earl of Derby, by Sibyl Marshal | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Qu25-3 | Robert de Quincy d 1257 apparently had the same name as his eldest brother | |||||||||||||||||||||
| TCP mentions a brother John but no Robert. However, TCP Chester, supported by TCP Hereford, confirms that Helen of Wales's 2nd husband was Robert, "yst. s. of Saer, Earl of Winchester" and TCP Wake confirms him as "yst. br. of Roger, 2nd Earl. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| m Helen of Wales d 1253, dau of Llewelyn the Great, Prince of North Wales | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| a. | Anne de Quincy nun | |||||||||||||||||||||
| b. | Joane de Quincy d 25.11.1283 | |||||||||||||||||||||
| m Humphrey de Bohun the younger | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| c. | Margaret Hawise de Quincy |
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| m Baldwin Wake d 1282 |
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| Qu25=24 | Hawise de Quincy |
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| m Hugh de Vere, 4th Earl of Oxford d 1263 |
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| Qu25-5 | Loretta de Quincy | |||||||||||||||||||||
| m William de Valoniis of Panmure, Chamberlain of Scotland d 1219 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Qu25-6 | Arabella de Quincy identified in BE1883 Harcourt | |||||||||||||||||||||
| m Sir Richard de Harcourt of Stanton Harcourt b c1202, d 1258 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| m2 Eve | ||||||||||||||||||||||
Sources: TCP Winchester, BE1883 Quincy of Winchester.
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