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Sir John de Botetourt was the son of ? Edward I of England (Pl22) (see below) and an unknown mistress
Born: about 1245 .
Married: Maud FitzThomas (Fi21) asbout 1285 Died: 25 Nov. 1324 |
John de Botetourt, 1st Lord Botetourt was born illegitimately circa 1265. He was the son of Edward I 'Longshanks', King of England. He married Matilda fitz Thomas, daughter of Sir Thomas fitz Otes and Beatrice de Beauchamp, between 1 July 1285 and June 1292. Beatrice de Beauchamp was the daughter of William Beauchamp (c1186 - aft 28 Dec. 1260) and Ida Longsée (bef 1205 - 1266/70), daughter of William Longspée, 1sdt Earl of Salisbury and Ela, Countess of Salisbury. He died on 25 November 1324. John de Botetourt, 1st Lord Botetourt held the office of Governor of St. Briavel's Castle in 1291. He held the office of Admiral for the Northern Seas between 1294 and 1297. He was created 1st Lord Botetourt [England by writ] on 13 July 1305. He held the office of Governor of Framlingham Castle in 1314. He held the office of Admiral for the Northern Seas in 1315. He fought in the Battle of Boroughbridge on 16 March 1321/22, on the side of Thomas, Earl of Lancaster's rebels. On 8 October 1322 he was then fined £1,000 and pardoned. |
and had issue:
Bo20-1 Thomas de Botetourt Bo20-2 John de Botetourt Bo20-3 Ottor de Botetourt Bo20 Sir Otto de Botetourt Bo20-5 Robert de Botetourt Bo20-6 Elizabeth de Botetourt Bo20-7 Johanna de Botetourt Bo20-8 Ada de Botetourt, married Sir John de St. Philibert and had: Bo20-8-1 Maud de St. Philibert, married Sir Warin Trussell and had Bo20-8-1-1 Lawrence Trussell |
John de Botetourt became 1st Lord Botetourt |
www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/cp/p_botetourt.shtml
Some corrections and additions to the Complete Peerage: Volume 2: Botetourt
(PROPOSED CORRECTIONS)
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BOTETOURT
Originally, volume 4 said that John's parentage was unknown. Stewart
Baldwin, in March 1998, and later others, referred to the work of F.N.
Craig, The American Genealogist, vol. 63, pp. 145-153 (1988), arguing that
a pedigree in the Hailes Abbey Chronicle is incorrect in making him a son
of Edward I, and that he was probably the son of Guy de Botetourt (living
1274, 1316), by his wife Ada. Douglas Richardson, in October 2002, produced
some supporting evidence.
Volume 2, page 235 (as modified by volume 14):
JOYCE, apparently, according to modern doctrine, suo jure BARONESS BOTETOURT
... ... granddaughter and h., being da. and h. of John DE BOTETOURT, by
Maud da. of John (DE GREY), 2nd LORD GREY OF ROTHERFIELD, which John de
B. was s. and h. ap. (by his 2nd wife) of the late Lord, and d. v.p. 21
Sep. 1369.
Apparently the elder John de Botetourt did not have a first wife Maud
de Grey, while the younger John de Botetourt married, soon after 28 November
1358, Maud, daughter of John, 1st (not 2nd) Lord Grey of Rotherfield, by
his 2nd wife Avice Marmion. Maud remarried, before 13 June 1374, to Sir
Thomas de Harcourt, of Stanton Harcourt, Oxfordshire (see Erdington, vol.
5, pp. 88, 89).
The elder John's first wife Maud, and the statement that he had issue
both by her and by Joyce Zouche, appear to have been copied from a pedigree
in Blore's History of Rutland [p. 90]. This was later corrected by the
author [p. 209], and this Maud seems to have arisen purely out of confusion
with the wife of the younger John de Botetourt.
A settlement was made, 28 November 1358, on the younger John de Botetourt
and Maud, the daughter of John de Grey of Retherfeld (or Rotherfeld) [Calendar
of Patent Rolls, 1358-1361, pp. 125, 127]. As Maud's father is described
simply as John de Grey, not John de Grey the younger, it seems more natural
to identify him as the first Lord Grey of Rotherfield, who did not die
until 1359. This indication is confirmed by the heraldry on the tombs of
Maud and her grandson Sir Robert Harcourt, at Stanton Harcourt. These were
described in 1808 as displaying the arms of Marmion [George Simon, Earl
Harcourt, An Account of the Church and Remains of the Manor House of Stanton
Harcourt in the County of Oxford, pp. 8, 9, 13 (1808)]. Avice Marmion was
the 2nd wife of John de Grey, the first Lord Grey of Rotherfield, but was
not the mother of his son John, the second Lord.
[This problem was discussed in October 2003 and later by Rosie Bevan,
John Stuart, Doug Smith, Douglas Richardson, Jim Weber and Paul Reed.
The title Baron Botetourt was created in the Peerage of England by writ
of summons on 19 June 1305. It became abeyant in 1406, was recalled from
abeyance in 1764 for Norborne Berkeley. However, it became abeyant again
on his death in 1770. It was recalled a second time in 1803 for the 5th
Duke of Beaufort, and became a subsidiary title of the Dukes of Beaufort
until the death of the 10th Duke in 1984, when it became, and remains,
abeyant.
Norborne Berkeley, 4th Baron Botetourt (1718 – October 15, 1770) was
governor of the Virginia Colony from 1768 to 1770. He was a member of Board
of Visitors of the College of William and Mary in Williamsburg, Virginia.
Before coming to Virginia he was (as Norborne Berkeley) Member of Parliament
for Gloucestershire 1741 – 1763. He then obtained his peerage, when it
was called out of abeyance in 1764, the third holder of the title having
died in 1406. Lord Botetourt resided in the Governor's Palace on Duke of
Gloucester Street, now a major attraction of Colonial Williamsburg in the
Historic Triangle. Although a popular governor, Lord Botetourt served only
two years. He died suddenly while still in office in 1770 and was buried
in the Wren Building Chapel at William and Mary. Botetourt County, Virginia
was named in his honour. A lifelong bachelor, he endowed an award at the
College of William and Mary that is still known as the Botetourt Medal;
it is the College's most prestigious award. The Medal has been awarded
to an exceptional student every year since the late eighteenth century.
[edit] Barons Botetourt (1305)
[edit] Co-heirs
Descendants of Lady Rosemary Alexandra Eliot (26 Feb 1919-20 Apr 1963)
by her first and third marriages:
(1/4th) [daughter of a deceased elder daughter] Mrs Frederica Samantha
Mary Thomas, nee Cope (b.23 Sep 1963)[1]; she has a daughter Davina Mary
Mauritius Thomas (b. 1999)
(1/2) David Seyfried Herbert, 19th Baron Herbert (b. 1952); his son
is Hon. Oliver Richard Seyfried Herbert, b.17 Jun 1976 and has a son and
daughter.
Families
covered: Botetourt of Botetourt, Botetourt of Mendlesham, Botreaux of Boscastle,
Botreaux of Botreaux
Bo21
John de Botetourt, 1st Lord (d 25.11.1324, Admiral)
Many
web sites show this John as a son of Edward
Longshanks (King Edward I of England), some as an illegitimate son,
others as a legitimate son by Edward's second wife, Margaret of France.
Neither TCP nor BE1883 make any mention of any such connection, TCP simply
saying his "parentage is unknown". GenEU (Anjou) reports that King Edward
had an illegitimate son called John
Walter FitzRoy de Botetourte whose similar identification, if he indeed
existed, may have led to this confusion. As TCP and, in particular, BE1883
may have been expected to report the possibility of a descent from King
Edward had such been considered possible, we suspect that this connection
is a relatively new 'discovery' and merely report the fact that (for reasons
of which we are not aware) there are some who think there was such a connection.
But his successful career does speak for high birth.
m.
(1285) Matilda (a 05.1329, dau of Thomas FitzOtho)
Bo20-1
Thomas
de Botetourt (dvp)
m.
Johanna de Somery (dau of Roger de Somery)
Bo20-1-1
John
de Botetourt, 2nd Lord (b 1318, d 1385)
m1.
Matilda de Grey (dau of John de Grey, 1st Lord of Rotherfield)
Bo20-1-1-1
Elizabeth
de Botetourt (d young)
m.
Sir Baldwin Frevile of Tamworth (d 1388)
Bo20-1-1-2
Joyce
de Botetourt (d 1410)
m1.
Sir Baldwin Frevile of Tamworth (d 1388)
m2.
Sir Adam Pershall of Weston-under-Lizeard (dsp)
m2.
(before 31.05.1347) Joyce Zouche (a 04.1372, dau of William Morimer, later
Zouche of Ashby, 1st Lord Zouche of Mortimer)
Bo20-1-1-3
John
de Botetourt (dvp 1369)
m1.
Maud de Grey (dau of John de Grey, 2nd Lord of Rotherfield)
a.
John
de Botetourt (d before 1385)
b.
Joyce
de Botetourt (dsp 01.01.1406/7)
m.
(1386) Sir Hugh Burnell, 2nd Lord (b c1347, d 27.11.1420)
Bo20-1-1-4
Matilda
de Botetourt, Abbess of Polesworth
Bo20-1-1-5
Agnes
de Botetourt, a nun
Bo20-1-1-6
Alice de Botetourt b c 1360 d by 1407
m 1377 John Keriell/Kyriel/Criol b c 1350 Wastenhanger und Wlmer Kent d by 28 May 1427 Sarre Court Isle of Thanet Kent
a.
Johanne
Keriell
m.
John Wykes
(1)
Agnes
Wykes (d unm)
(2)
Joyce
Wykes
m.
Hugh Stanley
Bo20-1-1-7
Catherine
de Botetourt
m.
Maurice or Thomas de Berkeley of Uley (d c1361)
Bo20-2
John
de Botetourt of Gestingthorp and Belchamp Otho (d 1339)
m.
Margaret (d 1376)
Bo20-2-1
John de Botetourt Bo20-2-1
m Johanna Gernon (dau
of John Gernon)
Bo20-2-1-1
Johanna de Botetourt
m Sir Robert Swyneburne
Bo20=22.
Otho de Botetourt of Mendlesha
m Maud de FitzThomas
Bo19 =21
John de Botetourt of Mendlesham
m.
Catharine Wayland (sister of Sir William Wayland)
Bo18 =20
Joane de Botetourt
m John Knyvet (a 1398)
Bo20-4.
Robert
de Botetourt
Bo20-5.
Elizabeth
de Botetourt (d 11.04.1384)
m1.
William de Latimer, 3rd Lord (b c1301, d before 02.11.1335)
m2.
(before 20.08.1337) Robert de Ufford, younger of Suffolk (dvpsp before
29.06.1368)
Bo20-6.
Johanna
de Botetourt
m.
(?) Robert FitzWalter (of Wodeham family)
Hamon
Boterel
1.
William
de Botreaux (Boterel)
m.
Alice Corbet (dau of Robert FitzCorbet of Alcester)
A.
William
de Botreaux (d c1220)
m.
Isabel de Saye, Baroness of Clun (d 1199, dau of Elias de Saye, Lord of
Clun)
The
above connection was obtained from 'Mathematical' which shows William and
Isabel having a son Reginald. We assume that this was the following Reynold
who is the first of this family to be mentioned by TCP.
i.
Reynold
de Botreaux (d 1273)
a.
William
de Botreaux (d 1302)
(1)
William
de Botreaux (d c1342)
(A)
Reynold
de Botreaux (d 1346)
(i)
William
de Botreaux of Botreaux Castle or Boscastle, Sheriff of Cornwall (d 22.07.1349)
m.
Isabel de Moels (dau of Sir John de Moels, 4th Lord)
(a)
William
de Botreaux, 1st Lord (b 01.09.1337, d 10.08.1391)
m.
(02.1369/70) Elizabeth Daubeny (d 29.05.1433, dau of Sir Ralph Daubeny,
Lord, by Katherine Thweng)
((1))
William
de Botreaux, 2nd Lord (b c1367, d 25.05.1395)
m.
Elizabeth St. Lo (dau of Sir John St. Lo of Newton St. Lo)
((A))
William
de Botreaux, 3rd Lord (b 20.02.1388/9, d 16.05.1462)
m1.
(before 1411) Elizabeth Beaumont (b 1389, dau of John Beaumont, 4th Lord)
((i))
William
Botreaux (d infant)
((ii))
Anne
Botreaux (dvp)
m.
(1426) Sir John Stafford
((iii))
Margaret
Botreaux, Baroness Botreaux (d 07.02.1477/8)
m.
Robert Hungerford, 2nd Lord (d 14.05.1459)
m2.
(before 1458) Margaret de Ros (d 1488, dau of Sir Thomas de Ros, 9th Lord)
((B))
Anne
or Alice Botreaux (d 17.10.1420)
m1.
Fulke FitzWarine, 6th Lord (b 1389, d 31.10.1407)
m2.
(1409) William Clinton, 4th Lord of Maxtock (Marstoke) (b 14.09.1377, d
30.07.1432)
ii.
Emma
de Botreaux
m.
Joscelyn de Valletort
Index
Volume 2, page 233 (as modified by volume 14):
JOHN DE BOTETOURT [d. 1324] bastard s. of Edward I [Hailes Chron.,
in BM Cott. MS. Cleopatra, D III, f. 51, ex. inform. A.R. Wagner], was
a distinguished soldier ...
He [John (de Botetourt), Lord Botetourt (d. 1385)] m., 1stly, Maud,
da. of John DE GREY [1st LORD GREY OF ROTHERFIELD]. He m., 2ndly, before
31 May 1347, Joyce, da. of William ZOUCHE, formerly MORTIMER [LORD ZOUCHE
of Mortimer]. ... He left issue by both wives.
Item last updated: 28 December 2003.]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baron_Botetourt
John de Botetourt, 1st Baron Botetourt (d. 1324)
John de Botetourt, 2nd Baron Botetourt (d. 1385)
Joan Burnell, 3rd Baroness Botetourt (d. January 1, 1406)
abeyant until 13 April 1764
Norborne Berkeley, 4th Baron Botetourt (d. October 15, 1770)
abeyant until 4 June 1803
Henry Somerset, 5th Duke of Beaufort, 5th Baron Botetourt (1744 – October
11, 1803)
Henry Charles Somerset, 6th Duke of Beaufort, 6th Baron Botetourt (1766–1835)
Henry Somerset, 7th Duke of Beaufort, 7th Baron Botetourt (1792–1853)
Henry Charles FitzRoy Somerset, 8th Duke of Beaufort, 8th Baron Botetourt
(1824–1899)
Henry Adelbert Wellington FitzRoy Somerset, 9th Duke of Beaufort, 9th
Baron Botetourt (1847–1924)
Henry Hugh Arthur Somerset, 10th Duke of Beaufort, 10th Baron Botetourt
(1900–1984)
abeyant
The current co-heirs to the barony are the descendants of the elder
sister of the tenth baron (tenth Duke of Beaufort):
(1/4th) [younger daughter] Mrs. Alexandra Peyronel (b. 1951); she has
a son Jesse Peyronel
Elder son of Lady Cathleen Blanche Lily Eliot (29 Jul 1921-1994) by
her first marriage: