Bl5 Thomas Pope Bland, Senior

      Thomas P.  Bland (also listed as John Thomas Bland) was the son of Charles Bland (b: 2 DEC 1765 in Virginia) and Phyllis Ann Pope b 26 MAY 1773 in Fauquier, Virginia
     
    Born: 10 DEC 1791 in Lincoln County, Virginia Colony 

    Married: Elizabeth Jennings Duncan b 1796 in Virginia

    Both died: in an epidemic the same week summer 1844.

    Marriage bond in source below:
    Duncan, Elizabeth to Thomas Bland, Box 5, Bond 1278, 1819 (MAD: bdm. Wm. G. Harris, 11/27/1819). This supports the idea that John Thomas Bland might also have been named Thomas Pope Bland and not John Thomas or at least did not like being called John.
     

    According to Leland Bland's report. Thomas Pope Bland's grandparents (that would be Charles Bland and Phyllis Ann Pope lived on on a farm on Bagdad road between Bagdad and Shelbyville with two rows of magnificent old elms along the drive. In 1985 the farmhouse had long since been replaced by a more modern house. John Thomas Bland and his wife, Elizabeth Duncan, are believed to have moved to Missouri together with the (grand-)parents of Harry S. Truman, who had had a farm farther up the road on the other side going to Bagdad. 
    Thomas Pope Bland and the surviving younger children were returned to the grandparents farm near Bagdad, Shelby Co., Ky. in 1846 after their parents's death.
     Thomas Pope Bland and Elizabeth Duncan had issue:
    Bl4-1 X Bland b c 1817 ?m Y Moseley
    Bl4-2 Sarah Prudence Bland b c 1818 d. 8 Jan. 1856
    Bl4-3 Benjamin Mason Bland b 13 NOV 1820
    Bl4 Thomas Pope Bland b 12 Oct 1832
    Bl4-5 John Duncan Bland b c 1832/3 married x and had
    Bl4-5-1-1 Martha Eugene Bland
    Bl4-5-1-2 Nancy Virginia Bland
    Bl4-5-1-3 Nelson Bland
    Bl4-5-1-4 x Bland

    Bl4-6 Elizabeth Bland b 1833
    Bl4-7 Mary S Bland b 9 MAY 1834
    Bl4-8 Dalzell Leland Smith Bland b 30 JUL 1838, grew up in Vandalia, Audrain County, Missouri where he was raised by his eldest brother, Benjamin Mason Bland.
    Bl4-9 William Henry Bland b 29 JAN 1840
    The marriage bond shown in the source below also has William G. Harris as bondsman. So it is likely that this same William Harris was the uncle of Levicy Jane Harris. The Harris house was just outside Bagdad on Elmburg Road just past the Bagdad Road turnoff to Shelbyville.
    If there was a family Bible it is likely to have been left to one of the three elder children and remained in Missouri. This Bible would be invaluable in clarifying the conflicting statements on names.

    Questions arise from the unusual pattern of birth years, as there seem to have been three children born in quick succession, then a pause of 12 years followed by another 4 in quick succession then a break of 4 years followed by another 2 in quick succession. 

    The name Dalzell shows up rather far back in the Truman pedigree (but changed to Dalyell) and is an ancient Scotish family, so it does not seem likely that the eigth child was named by this influence, but rather some other connection between the Duncans and Dalzell families or he was named after respected personal acquaintance. The earliest known of the name, John Leland, was a prolific writer patronized by Henry VIII. And there was a Baptist minister named John Leland from Massachusettes, who lived in Virginia 14 years. And a son or brother of his may have accompanied the Bland and Duncan families to Kentucky and later to Missouri as their minister.

    Source: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=robb22&id=I2353
    http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=robb22&id=I2336
    Talk with Leland Bland, March 1985 after Levicy Jane Bland's funeral.


    The Missouri census of 1840 shows.
    "Thomas P. Bland, age 40-50, Pike County,  Missouri....he had 4  males and  4 daughters.  The 1 son age 0-5, 1 son age  5-10, 1 son 10-15, 1 male 15-20
    "
    Conclusions from the above:
    The eldest child seems to have been out of the house and must have been born shortly after the parent's marriage in 1819, or one of the younger children.
    Benjamin Mason Bland would have been just short of 20 when they came for the census (probably between April and October) so that fits.

    There is a problem with the count of males in the two younger age brackets, where there should be two each, unless William Henry died before the census, but then the total count of children in the household would not have been eight.

    John Duncan's birth year would also have to have been at least 3 years earlier for there to be a son between 10 and 15, or he would have to have been dead by 1840.